There should be some actions that are just auto-punishable

BeatinWarDrumz·Jan 29, 2016·2 votes·1,001 views

Not taking smite on a jungler in ranked, buying 6 boots, etc.

11 Comments

ModWuksJan 29, 20164 votes

Yup! The Intentional Feeder detection system was rolled out a while ago, and I believe they're still working on fine tuning the system to ensure that suspensions are given out accurately, while also ensuring that a good number of individuals who are ruining the games for others aren't able to do so. For more information about that system, check out this post by Riot Lyte:

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Hey all,

(Neurocat’s out for a week, so I’m dropping in to give an Instant Feedback update)

A few weeks back we launched intentional feeding detection, a long-desired addition to Instant Feedback that hands out 14-day or permanent bans to intentional feeders. Initially, we tuned the detection to be very conservative because we wanted to be absolutely sure Instant Feedback could distinguish bad games from genuine intentional feeding. Now that the system’s crunched through a few million games of data, we feel confident turning intentional feeding detection up a notch.

Like with all adjustments to Instant Feedback, the team will hand review the first few thousand cases to make sure everything’s working the way it’s meant to. This upgrade’s already live in NA, and will roll out worldwide before the end of the year. In fact, the system’s already made its first ban. The /allchat log reads:

[All] (Hecarim): uh... i dont care [All] (Hecarim): and riot will not care [All] (Hecarim): who wants kill?

Oh Hecarim. We care a lot. We’ll update this post when the feature’s gone global.

EDIT ::: We are now rolling the system out in EUW.

TempestsageJan 29, 20163 votes

feeding is not the same as purposely taking not taking smite, or taking a role and trolling the role, a good example of this is the support instead of engaging in team fights hangs in the back and doesnt really do anything to help the team but knowing if he doesnt die it looks like he was just playing safe. There are people out in the game who find new ways to troll games.

TrulyBlandJan 29, 20162 votes

Hence why Riot keeps manually reviewing cases to "feed" to the automated system, which then, over time, starts recognizing the pattern in behaviour and is able to detect and punish it on its own. (That's extremely simplified, but seriously, machine learning is fucking awesome)

TempestsageJan 29, 20161 votes

ok but feed is more for when you give the enemy team free kills and if youre not dying youre really not feeding, but there is really no perfect system. at least not yet.

TrulyBlandJan 29, 20161 votes

Ah yes, forgot to mention that part: The system they have is generally for all kinds of methods for griefing. Even if they're not feeding, there are still typical patterns around trolling that can be detected... like for example the thing with the six boots. Probably a joke if done 10 seconds before the game ends, a pretty much dead givaway for trolling if it happens earlier in the game.

Ada WongJan 29, 20161 votes

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feeding is not the same as purposely taking not taking smite, or taking a role and trolling the role, a good example of this is the support instead of engaging in team fights hangs in the back and doesnt really do anything to help the team but knowing if he doesnt die it looks like he was just playing safe. There are people out in the game who find new ways to troll games.

The problem with this is there are legit uses for more than one smite on a team, there are also legit uses for a mid lane player to have teleport.

Lets look at the lower elo's the other day I was using teleport with a bot laner who had common sense to ward on the enemy's TRI-Bush I think they call it or the bush on the little hill, teleported in and dove at like level 4 because both were so low, and just hugging turret and got out a live.

The biggest trend right now is junglers Griefing / Trolling my lane sure I can go Top/Mid every game now so I don't feed hard with unskilled players unless duo, but it doesn't mean im going to do well, or be able to win a lane phase if I have a Jungler blindly running into my lane and Trolling the hell out of my lane, its happening a lot lately, Riot needs to do something to address it, and people complain when my games go badly because someone does this especially before level 6 or mid game if it was later on in the game it wouldn't hurt as bad.

Listen to the description of what a jungler is "Put your ally ahead" not put your enemy ahead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBJnqyLDtDU

"IF you see a lane that needs to be helped" not just running into lane without even thinking?

aj502 OneillJan 29, 20162 votes

Lol, I don't believe that for a second. :D

vampirekid13Jan 29, 20161 votes

i definitely dont feel that "not taking smite on a jungler" and "buying 6 pairs of boots" are remotely close to eachother in severity.

alasarcherJan 29, 20161 votes

It happened to many people,including me, to forget to take smite while changing masteries, choosing rune pages or generally tabing being distracted or stuff like that. U cant serious lsy expect punishment for that

HippolytaJan 29, 20161 votes

Not take smite on jungler is not bannable but buy 6 boots and feed it is Player have own style to jungle without you to say to take smite... You job is to play your champion not judje other for thier builds I always play ranked and i choose support but i go jungle just for make my team mad .. u cant do anything for that Only reason i do that is if i see any one use bad or insult words to ban screen so its my personal way to punish the flamers and bad talkers kids and you cant do nothing for that.. but feeding is a way to punish your acoumt not others that why i avoid this

Care for how you speak and stop bully other for their builds and you see lower trolls or we never stop make you mad and u get perma ban soon or later

ReadyxPlayerxOneJan 29, 20161 votes

Auto-punishing things like this might be excessive and contextual. I've seen a few people get aced at the end of the game and sell their items and get boots or 6 teardrops.

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There ARE some things that should be Auto-Punished. Like the n-word... and other hate speech. But I'm glad we have systems that try to work on even the people who play Tahm just to eat team mates and spit them under an enemy tower.