Those of you saying you got banned for third party programs for no reason...

Skorch·Feb 13, 2017·10 votes·1,503 views

I ask what you have on your computer cause every post i see says "I have Curse/Discord and... (a third party program that has no impact on gameplay whatsoever.)" I always see this. But they never specify what that program is. Except ive seen someone specify Overwolf.

If you truly are innocent, then what are these programs. Because i am POSITIVE one of those is the reason you got banned. Wether or not it impacts gameplay, the system must have flagged it.

30 Comments

Gibbens651Feb 13, 20174 votes

Curse is the only thing I have, or have ever had. Something is flagging their system and we just don't know what, nor do we have a way to find out.

JinAsakuraFeb 13, 20172 votes

Just Curse for me

SkorchFeb 13, 20171 votes

And you got banned? O.o

JinAsakuraFeb 13, 20172 votes

Yup, but so far Riot has refused to acknowledge any issue despite the huge number of topics. I mean take a look at my match history if I was really scripting would I still be stuck in silver -_- or having such average games?

Ambient SnowFeb 13, 20171 votes

The ban never said any thing about scripting just says they found a third party app that they see as cheating.

This can be any thing from a script or a UI adjustment such as a DPS meter or a camp /timer, mod. or a ward timer keeper or any thing thing along those lines.

JinAsakuraFeb 13, 20171 votes

Correct, however the standard cookie cutter response from support does mention scripting. Regardless of this the only thing I use is curse, I've never used anything else with league, that includes UI adjusments or ward timers and anything along those lines. I've never even used a voice over pack.

Telephone BoothFeb 14, 20171 votes

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Yup, but so far Riot has refused to acknowledge any issue despite the huge number of topics. I mean take a look at my match history if I was really scripting would I still be stuck in silver -_- or having such average games?

One would have to spend a long time to look through your match history. It could be something you used a year ago and they're just now doing a ban wave on everyone at once. I can't say you're guilty or innocent, but I've seen a lot of people talking about match history as evidence of their innocence, and it's just not.

JinAsakuraFeb 14, 20171 votes

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One would have to spend a long time to look through your match history. It could be something you used a year ago and they're just now doing a ban wave on everyone at once. I can't say you're guilty or innocent, but I've seen a lot of people talking about match history as evidence of their innocence, and it's just not.

Agreed, however I haven't been playing that long and didn't make it out of silver last year. Realistically how much do I really gain from using scripts remaining in silver and risk getting banned and losing money that I've invested into the account?

Telephone BoothFeb 15, 20171 votes

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Agreed, however I haven't been playing that long and didn't make it out of silver last year. Realistically how much do I really gain from using scripts remaining in silver and risk getting banned and losing money that I've invested into the account?

Yeah idk... some players are kids who don't think of consequences.

KuadFeb 14, 20171 votes

Only discord.gg via website and razer comm, got banned !

KuadFeb 14, 20171 votes

Could it be the windows 10 xbox menu that shows into the game instrusively, we must have something in common? Since I'm not guilty I believe we all are not but we must have a common software, for Me I only have razer comm

Fluffertons FuryFeb 14, 20171 votes

I'm currently in the process of recording all the installed programs and features and then I'm going to send that list to Riot in a ticket. I'm hoping, but not holding my breath, that one they will actually read it two the will investigate and three find that one of these programs is the cause of the false positive. I doubt this will actually happen, but I don't know what else to do. I will not share this list here. Unfortunately, I am sure that there are people here who actually cheated and might just take my list and my idea and send it to riot, thus devaluing it

I do have: Curse and Discord. I rarely use discord. I have a corsair mouse and keyboard. I don't think these are the issues, but they could be I guess.

SkorchFeb 14, 20171 votes

Im curious if maybe general things might be flagged. Like recording software. Something the average player wont connect because its a weird thing to trigger a flag

Cpt CrapFeb 14, 20171 votes

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Im curious if maybe general things might be flagged. Like recording software. Something the average player wont connect because its a weird thing to trigger a flag

I was told that plays.tv and Skype were fine but I said I used curse and had razer synapse and those programs weren't mentioned in the email that said the others were fine

DrCyanideFeb 14, 20171 votes

Curse is fine, it's installed on Riot's computers.

Razer Synapse is our unified configuration software that allows you to rebind controls or assign macros to any of your Razer peripherals

Macros that perform multiple in game actions (such as place ward and hop to it with a single button press) are considered cheating.

SkorchFeb 14, 20171 votes

For a bit i know curse wasnt okay i wonder if people got flagged before curse changed it? I really dont know im not riot but i feel like something not DIRECTLY related to league may be causing it.

DrCyanideFeb 14, 20171 votes

Back before League Patch 4.12, Curse Voice had Jungle Timers. This was giving an unfair advantage to those who had it. Riot warned everyone using Curse Voice at that time that it was against their ToS until they removed that. Curse Voice removed the timers, and Riot implemented a simpler version of Jungle Timers since then.

It's been nearly 3 years since Curse Voice was a problem.

i feel like something not DIRECTLY related to league may be causing it.

From what Riot Tantram said, I doubt it.

SkorchFeb 14, 20171 votes

Okay so yeah the curse thing was DEFINETLY not this ban cycle. I didnt know exactly when that was my apologies.

And i dont know, im not saying something not related to league at all, but maybe some sort of like framerate assistant program, or some sort of recording software. Normal people wouldnt associate those with league directly but riot might.

And tantrum said in the past it has proven accurate. But bugs/weird events happen, maybe some software that got added recently that Riot considers not okay got added to the flag list that a lot of people have. I don't know im not Riot i dont know the list. But i am skeptical of maybe thats the case.

I am also skeptical on all of these posts being genuine, and a lot of them are really vague, but there are sure a lot of them.

Fluffertons FuryFeb 14, 20171 votes

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Im curious if maybe general things might be flagged. Like recording software. Something the average player wont connect because its a weird thing to trigger a flag

I don't have recording software, unless it's preloaded into some software I have but don't use, this would be general software that I'm betting 90% of players have. I don't think I even have skype installed. Curse and Discord are the only two things I have and use frequently.

Fluffertons FuryFeb 14, 20171 votes

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I ask what you have on your computer cause every post i see says "I have Curse/Discord and... (a third party program that has no impact on gameplay whatsoever.)" I always see this. But they never specify what that program is. Except ive seen someone specify Overwolf.

If you truly are innocent, then what are these programs. Because i am POSITIVE one of those is the reason you got banned. Wether or not it impacts gameplay, the system must have flagged it.

I can tell you that what I have is what the majority of players probably have... Steam, Origin, Uplay, Curse, Discord, Microsoft Office, Avira Antivirus, Nvidia Drivers and console, Corsair utility engine (keyboard and mouse), Canon Printer software and apps. Some of the more uncommon things I have are Hyper-V, Visual Studios, Open-VPN.

SkorchFeb 14, 20171 votes

I was asking someone else if some notleague related software (at least league directly) may have been flagged. Not OBS but maybe some sort of recording software got on the list that no one would relate to league but maybe flags you anyway.

Billy SinFeb 14, 20171 votes

I have MSI dragon, nVidia GeForce Experience and previously Overwolf.

After a reply to my ticket, I saw that I had been banned for scripting... L O L - Never scripted, wouldn't risk my account of 4 years and all the money I've spent on my account, it's just foolishness.

YerroFeverFeb 14, 20171 votes

Most people use VOIP programs (curse, discord, ts, etc) and some people who have mentioned other programs like nvidia geforce, which I'm sure many people use because many people have geforce video cards, including myself.

People have been stating they get banned with overwolf as well but many have also gotten banned when they don't claim to have run overwolf.

So I question whether or not these claims of innocence are actually true. If people were banned for using VOIP's, why isn't the super majority of the league community banned? It seems like there is information that is being withheld from these permabanned folks about all of the programs that are actually being run on their compys.

SkorchFeb 14, 20171 votes

I do agree a lot of them are sketchy, and the sheer amount may have been 1 person wrongfully banned and EVERYONE else banned hopped on it to try to get a free lift back.

But at the same time there are A LOT of complaints right now

XantrengerFeb 14, 20171 votes

I feel like trying to narrow down the programs you have to see why you were banned would only help the actual scripters on here. Just share your computer information to the support tickets guys

SkorchFeb 14, 20171 votes

Yeah dont actually post ALL of the programs on here. That helps scripters.

ÚnseenFeb 15, 20171 votes

Hello,

Overwolf is an app that is like na.op.gg or its like lolnexus it gives you peoples ranks, their win rate and other basic information on the game nothing in detail and thats all it will be used for. Overwolf is free you add your summoner name and it looks up a live game and gives you peoples ranks and their win rates i know i said that already just restating it. na.op.gg shows way more and people dont get banned for using that or people use lolnexus.com and it gives the exact same information that overwolf does. lolking.net shows more actually that overwolf overwolf just lets you look while in load in screen and close out of it. I got banned and the only thing i could think of is overwolf but i dont use it and a number of people i talk to use it and cloud 9 actually sponsors it and advertises for it so why should we be punished for using that when it is advertised in multiple streams and other events so it makes everyone think its not scripting. i was silver 1 promo to gold this season last season i was gold 3 or 4 but in the middle of my promos i got banned and the only thing i changed is overwolf i used it before no punishments for it and then out of the blue at 7am i got an email from riot saying i was banned. I emailed riot and they wont tell me what i used but they wont revoke or end it early. I dont know how to prove it to them that i am not cheating i dont know what to do and it annoys me because i actually for once found a game i have liked since the middle to end of season 3 of this game i played was bronze the first season i played ranked. then silver the rest of the seasons until season 6 i got gold so i dont think i am scripting i just learned from my mistakes and tried my best to improve so i dont keep making same mistakes and i also noticed a couple days before i was banned i was playing against a riot employee name Riot Sunghoster and at first i was like thats actually cool a riot employee and we played against him my team won because we grouped and did what we needed. I thought just for the heck of it i should send him a friend request instantly declined. But i played after that game and then couple days later i was banned was it because i was using overwolf or because i was playing mater yi. I would like to do something to help al the players in this game wrongfully banned but this community just talks crap about you saying you must of cheated if riot banned you but multiple people get banned and no one knows exactly why so i dont know why everyone doesnt know why they are getting banned but all know it has something with overwolf apparently but i use it to check win rates on the people and know whether or not to play by their lane or not since i play more against people with higher win rates for say if they have a 58% compared to a 34% i will camp the person with a 58% because he just wins more times but thats just me overwolf seems to be the only connection every player including me have had to be banned if so cant you make an annoucment to everyone instead of banning communicate to us that that app is bad if you told me i would of unistalled it because i love this game i play it every moment i get because it is a competitive game that makes you want to improve in this game so i hope im not the only one who wants to continue this game please let me know if anything changes with their problem i would like to know what to expect in future issues because i feel im not alone in this matter everyone seems to be confused to riot please explain a little more clearly why we all are banned and what we can do to fix this because i love this game.......

Thanks, TheUnseenBlade2

ÚnseenFeb 15, 20171 votes

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Hello,

Overwolf is an app that is like na.op.gg or its like lolnexus it gives you peoples ranks, their win rate and other basic information on the game nothing in detail and thats all it will be used for. Overwolf is free you add your summoner name and it looks up a live game and gives you peoples ranks and their win rates i know i said that already just restating it. na.op.gg shows way more and people dont get banned for using that or people use lolnexus.com and it gives the exact same information that overwolf does. lolking.net shows more actually that overwolf overwolf just lets you look while in load in screen and close out of it. I got banned and the only thing i could think of is overwolf but i dont use it and a number of people i talk to use it and cloud 9 actually sponsors it and advertises for it so why should we be punished for using that when it is advertised in multiple streams and other events so it makes everyone think its not scripting. i was silver 1 promo to gold this season last season i was gold 3 or 4 but in the middle of my promos i got banned and the only thing i changed is overwolf i used it before no punishments for it and then out of the blue at 7am i got an email from riot saying i was banned. I emailed riot and they wont tell me what i used but they wont revoke or end it early. I dont know how to prove it to them that i am not cheating i dont know what to do and it annoys me because i actually for once found a game i have liked since the middle to end of season 3 of this game i played was bronze the first season i played ranked. then silver the rest of the seasons until season 6 i got gold so i dont think i am scripting i just learned from my mistakes and tried my best to improve so i dont keep making same mistakes and i also noticed a couple days before i was banned i was playing against a riot employee name Riot Sunghoster and at first i was like thats actually cool a riot employee and we played against him my team won because we grouped and did what we needed. I thought just for the heck of it i should send him a friend request instantly declined. But i played after that game and then couple days later i was banned was it because i was using overwolf or because i was playing mater yi. I would like to do something to help al the players in this game wrongfully banned but this community just talks crap about you saying you must of cheated if riot banned you but multiple people get banned and no one knows exactly why so i dont know why everyone doesnt know why they are getting banned but all know it has something with overwolf apparently but i use it to check win rates on the people and know whether or not to play by their lane or not since i play more against people with higher win rates for say if they have a 58% compared to a 34% i will camp the person with a 58% because he just wins more times but thats just me overwolf seems to be the only connection every player including me have had to be banned if so cant you make an annoucment to everyone instead of banning communicate to us that that app is bad if you told me i would of unistalled it because i love this game i play it every moment i get because it is a competitive game that makes you want to improve in this game so i hope im not the only one who wants to continue this game please let me know if anything changes with their problem i would like to know what to expect in future issues because i feel im not alone in this matter everyone seems to be confused to riot please explain a little more clearly why we all are banned and what we can do to fix this because i love this game.......

Thanks, TheUnseenBlade2

i got my account back yayyyyyyyyyy ty riot thank you riot you are doing really good

Thanks, TheUnseenBlade2