Screw you. You delete posts and give a cut and paste message of why that you robots tell everyone. But you do not even allow us to respond directly to the message other than having to make up a ticket that will just get another cut and paste robotic response.
Sarutobi5 votesWell it should have told you why it was deleted. Usually it's probably because it's in the wrong section. It sometimes when people name and shame and they don't block out names usually risk of having their post removed. Doesn't matter if you think it's right, it's not allowed!
Awkward Couch2 votesThe board moderators aren't actual Riot employees. As for the why your post was deleted, I cannot answer that because I don't know why it was deleted in the first place. Just make sure it was in the right section and if your post contained any names, get rid of them.
FrankerX2 votespretty sure was a board mod not a guy from rito
VvVVvV1 votespretty sure was a board mod not a guy from rito
ok well, then screw the board mod. I never mentioned anyones name. All it was, was a post about the limited report options and a screenshot of the current report options. And it was posted here...the correct forum.
point is they need more report options. If they dont like hearing that then why even have the system. Its like they only want certain things reported.
Zerfallen1 votesiirc, it had the guys name at the top of the screenshot.
Which is why it would be removed. Remove the name and repost. Not hard to do.
Kei1432 votesoh do share what other options you need.
AFAIK Most of the stuff is covered already. You don't need an image for that either.
VvVVvV1 votesoh do share what other options you need.
AFAIK Most of the stuff is covered already. You don't need an image for that either.
Bring back failure to communicate and Unskilled..............no talking, not responding to pings. Constantly over and over.....no sign of trying to improve. Choosing to jungle a blue buff instead of coming back to base when enemy is in our base....stuff like that.
You could put in under unsportmanlike but not all in tribrunal consider that unsportsmanlike,
Aeko1 votesYou could describe the reason in the text box, but for the unskilled, it doesnt actually get them banned, it justs makes so chance for you to play with them against is lower.
Kei1434 votesok. so lets take a look at the categories you suggested.
Unskilled player is unskilled. Keep in mind people don't get punished for being unskilled. It was more of a venting tool, and maybbbeee adjust match making a little.
Not talking .. there ARE people who start the game with /muteall. they may not feel like talking. Again, no one has ever been punished for failure to communicate.
Not listening to pings.. depends on the situation, I personally tunnel vision alot and sometimes not able to see you pings. Other times, I feel like your pings can be a wrong decision and there are better decisions out there. So thats more about teamwork / macro decisions.
neither of them are part of unsportsmanlike conduct. Neither of them are punishable. Having those categories in there just made people feel like they can report for anything, whilst they didn't do a dam thing other than produce useless data.
VvVVvV1 votesok. so lets take a look at the categories you suggested.
Unskilled player is unskilled. Keep in mind people don't get punished for being unskilled. It was more of a venting tool, and maybbbeee adjust match making a little.
Not talking .. there ARE people who start the game with /muteall. they may not feel like talking. Again, no one has ever been punished for failure to communicate.
Not listening to pings.. depends on the situation, I personally tunnel vision alot and sometimes not able to see you pings. Other times, I feel like your pings can be a wrong decision and there are better decisions out there. So thats more about teamwork / macro decisions.
neither of them are part of unsportsmanlike conduct. Neither of them are punishable. Having those categories in there just made people feel like they can report for anything, whilst they didn't do a dam thing other than produce useless data.
Really?
In a team game where you need communication and teamwork how can you honestly think not communicating is not punishable?
That like a WR in the nfl not joining the team huddle when the play is called and just saying to hiself..im just gonna go out there and run my own route and hope the QB knows what im doing.
Pings...i can understand tunnle vision a time or 2 but not like 20 the whole game. I mean a bot would of had better teamwork and responses.
Kei1432 votesReally?
In a team game where you need communication and teamwork how can you honestly thing not communicating is not punishable?
That like a WR in the nfl not joining the team huddle when the play is called and just saying to hiself..im just gonna go out there and run my own route and hope the QB knows what im doing. Get out of here.
your NFL example is more like the LCS teams.
SoloQ is more like street ball. Going to the court and just ask a bunch of randoms to play together.
Don't get me wrong though, having communication is super advantageous, which is why many SoloQ players complain about DynaQ. But its not to the degree that someone needs to be punished for it.
VvVVvV1 votesyour NFL example is more like the LCS teams.
SoloQ is more like street ball. Going to the court and just ask a bunch of randoms to play together.
Don't get me wrong though, having communication is super advantageous, which is why many SoloQ players complain about DynaQ. But its not to the degree that someone needs to be punished for it.
So in your mind I could just basically run around in the game and do nothing to help the team. Get caught out over and over again. And single handily end up feeding and be the cause of the team losing and if you were on the team you would not report me? I seriously do not believe you feel that way.
Kei1433 votesthats not refusing to communicate. Thats intentional feeding.
it also depends on what you were doing. If you were trying to ward, but have bad map awareness, and get caught out, fair game. You just need to improve on your map awareness.
If you are running into lane, trying to shove a lane without vision and enemy collapses, fair game. work on awareness once again.
If you are chasing the enemy without vision and die. Fair game, work on awareness.
There is a line between intentional feeding and just being unskilled. Map awareness is a thing that needs to be learnt and practiced. Tunnel vision does make up for alot of that.
I very very very rarely report someone for intentional feeding. Yes its fustrating to see things coming and others don't see it, you expect them to be better at certain things. That being said, sucking is not something I'd punish someone for.
If they want to learn, fair game, I can teach. If they aren't willing to learn, I probably won't see them ever again, so who cares.
EDIT2: if they were just running around, standing there and literally not doing anything, not counter jungling, but just running into the enemy but dying. Then yes, I would report them under intentional feeding. Also keep in mind that he's a walking ward.
point is, I don't need refusing to communicate as an option (based on your examples), intentional feeding is enough.
EDIT: As for running around not doing anything, I'll give you an example.
Mid game is here; My team pings for dragon (both teams have 1 drag). there is a giant wave crashing into our top lane and I decide to get that farm instead as I believed drag2 is not worth contesting over for our comp.
They ping me to back from top and help them drag, I ping back to them to back away from drag and I'm on the way top. They spot the enemy team, get collapsed on and die.
Of course they blame me for not being there. But what is the right call? Keep in mind its a bronze game, and needless to say we lost that game. I think that probably in higher ELO play they would have better macro decision making, but in bronze, everyone just wants to fight all the time.
Eitherway, was I intentional feeding? Far from it. Was I refusing to communicate? No, I just didn't like their calls. Was I not doing anything? No, I was just doing something else the team didn't agree on.
Can you report me for unskilled if the option was still there? Maybe. But was the right call to get drag? or to get the farm?
VvVVvV1 votesEDIT: As for running around not doing anything, I'll give you an example.
Mid game is here; My team pings for dragon (both teams have 1 drag). there is a giant wave crashing into our top lane and I decide to get that farm instead as I believed drag2 is not worth contesting over for our comp.
They ping me to back from top and help them drag, I ping back to them to back away from drag and I'm on the way top. They spot the enemy team, get collapsed on and die.
Of course they blame me for not being there. But what is the right call? Keep in mind its a bronze game, and needless to say we lost that game. I think that probably in higher ELO play they would have better macro decision making, but in bronze, everyone just wants to fight all the time.
Eitherway, was I intentional feeding? Far from it. Was I refusing to communicate? No, I just didn't like their calls. Was I not doing anything? No, I was just doing something else the team didn't agree on.
Can you report me for unskilled if the option was still there? Maybe. But was the right call to get drag? or to get the farm?
I will just explain what the guy was doing to lead me to making hte original post. The guy would not listen to pings wether it was to assist or back off. He would not help in fights. Literally a fight would be right near the buff he was getting and he would ge the buff and then run off to then next buff. Enemy team in our base...hes at their blue buff...does he come base no he goes to next camp.
There is a difference in making decisions good or bad but to constantly and intentionally do what u want with no team play at all in a team game is just dumb,
The only kills he got was when they attacked him, he never once grouped.
I think what you fail to understand is this guy was not just having a bad game or making bad calls...he had no intentions on trying to win.
Kei1431 voteshmm.. ya, that situaution is a dicey one.
depending on my mood, I'll probably report under "afk" and "intentionally feeding" and note inside the message of what he was doing all game.
If you do feel like you really want him punished, then you can check out his match history and see how he performs in the other games. if there is a consistant behavior of doing so, then screen shot it and send it to riot support.
trolling / intent feeding is 14-day ban for first punishment and then perma ban 2nd punishment. But it also comes in waves.
This scenario does occur rarely and probably should be under a new reporting option as "trolling" or something like that.
But if you think of it from riot's viewpoint. If they added that option, then everyone would just report all off-meta picks that are doing bad.
dicey situation indeed.
another situation based on what you said, was that he was a low ELO jungler with no map awareness. thinking he needs to farm till he get sated devourer before he fights.
If we are behind, Id rather have him complete his sated firsted before he fights.
too many times I've seen 30 mins have passed and the jungler still hasn't completed thier sated. heck, the record I've seen was 42 mins with 28 stacks, and that shyv would run down mid for a team fight instead and get deleted.
that was a sad day for me in LOL.
what this means is that trolling is hard to detect.
Awkward Couch1 votesReally?
In a team game where you need communication and teamwork how can you honestly think not communicating is not punishable?
That like a WR in the nfl not joining the team huddle when the play is called and just saying to hiself..im just gonna go out there and run my own route and hope the QB knows what im doing.
No one was ever punished for refusing to communicate. The problem with the football analogy, is that in that situation, there is a clear decisive leader. in League, there isn't one. Just because you might make the call (this is hypothetical here) to go do baron, doesn't mean that it's the right call. I play a lot of Singed, often times, I'll be split pushing and ignoring my team. I'll say things like "I'm going to be split pushing most of the game, I will not be there for a majority of the team fights". The point being, I'll often ignore my teammates and go off and split push because that's what my character is designed to do. That would fall under refusing to communicate, but in reality, I'm just playing the game differently.
VvVVvV1 votes[{quoted}](name=Awkward Couch,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Hbe5E8Em,comment-id=0003000000010000000100000001,timestamp=2016-04-19T15:57:49.099+0000)
No one was ever punished for refusing to communicate. The problem with the football analogy, is that in that situation, there is a clear decisive leader. in League, there isn't one. Just because you might make the call (this is hypothetical here) to go do baron, doesn't mean that it's the right call. I play a lot of Singed, often times, I'll be split pushing and ignoring my team. I'll say things like "I'm going to be split pushing most of the game, I will not be there for a majority of the team fights". The point being, I'll often ignore my teammates and go off and split push because that's what my character is designed to do. That would fall under refusing to communicate, but in reality, I'm just playing the game differently.
No its not. You are Singed....like you said thats what you do. Just like a Nasus....he stays in lane..people expect that. Plus you told your team ahead of time what you will be doing.
That is communicating. That is totally different from what i am talking about.
Awkward Couch1 votesNo its not. You are Singed....like you said thats what you do. Just like a Nasus....he stays in lane..people expect that. Plus you told your team ahead of time what you will be doing.
That is communicating. That is totally different from what i am talking about.
The problem is, especially in low elo (which is were I am at RIP), players don't realize that. I can't tell you the number of times people have threatened to report me for not grouping and being with the team.
FrankerX1 votesi remember that post but not sure if there was a name in it hm
VvVVvV1 votesi remember that post but not sure if there was a name in it hm
Well from what im told on here and now see in the shot the name was at the top of the screenshot in a area from the report thing. I never noticed it puts the persons name up there, i was just trying to show the current options and i knew i never typed the persons name. But my point is...at least leave a avenue for response and not just completely ignore the rest of the content of the post just because of a persons name which was not intentionally shown.
VvVVvV1 votesThey told me to continue to use the in game report system........that was what my post was about was the limited options in the report system.
archerno11 votesThey told me to continue to use the in game report system........that was what my post was about was the limited options in the report system.
If its not on report options its not against rules. Noone has to follow your pings or do what you tell him to do. Just because u disagree with someones playstyle or decision making doesnt mean its reportable. Refusing to communicate was added as placebo report to help filter fake reports easier. People tend to report people picking off meta or people picking 2 top laners 2 junglers when it was draft pick. But since those things werent banable, instead of flooding "negative attitude" they added "refusing to communicate" so they get automatically deleted.