Got hit with a 14-day suspension with no prior marks against me in 4 years of playing.

Bouncemaster Zac··2 votes·656 views

EDIT: FOREWORD: This was a vent post, I've cooled off since. I'm leaving it unedited for posterity's sake.

Of course, it's because I dropped one of the automated detection phrases. Got flamed particularly hard by a player in my game, who eventually got the rest of the team to gang up on me before he turned on them too. I hit him with a "kys" and then muted him. Reported him in post-game, I (clearly) got reported as well. I get hit with the second-highest punishment the system has to offer, he's in another game right now. This has convinced me not to be less toxic (because I'm not a toxic player and never have been, literally first offense) but rather I have realized I should be more openly toxic with my team, as toxicity is encouraged and rallied behind by other players. I just have to make sure to dodge any auto-detected flags and I'm golden.

I realize that I broke the ToS and flagged phrases instantly shoot you up the punishment ladder regardless of prior status. I realize that according to the ToS my punishment is both appropriate and deserved. I do not, however, feel bad nor do I plan on "reforming," because I don't need to. Rather, since I've already hit the 'loss of all rewards' marker in the first week of the Season, I feel free to be as toxic as I'd like. I'll just make sure to be toxic the way other players are toxic. I'll stick to "god you're shit," "you lost us the game," and "this is why you'll be bronze forever" like everyone else instead of two or three autoban phrases.

TL;DR: generic Player Behavior complaint post, feel my punishment isn't really justified, don't feel sorry for what I did, literally only making this post to vent because it makes me feel better even if it makes the situation worse, etc.

35 Comments

Rester4 votes

Any Hate speech including "kys" is zero-tolerance and gets escalated immediately to a 14 day ban regardless.

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

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Any Hate speech including "kys" is zero-tolerance and gets escalated immediately to a 14 day ban regardless.

Said in the post I'm aware.

Karunamon4 votes

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Rather, since I've already hit the 'loss of all rewards' marker in the first week of the Season, I feel free to be as toxic as I'd like. I'll just make sure to be toxic the way other players are toxic.

Do you wanna lose your account? Because that's how you lose your account. You're familiar enough with the system to understand how it works and you don't understand that you're now on the thinnest of ice.

I do not, however, feel bad nor do I plan on "reforming," because I don't need to.

But hey, you do you.

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

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Do you wanna lose your account? Because that's how you lose your account. You're familiar enough with the system to understand how it works and you don't understand that you're now on the thinnest of ice.

But hey, you do you.

Oh I understand. I just also understand that it's bogus. I have lost most of my give-a-fuck for both Riot and the game recently so I honestly wouldn't be too upset if I got perma'd. I'd just move on to better games.

o brigid o4 votes

No need to wait for the perma.

Do us all a favor and just move on now.

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

If rewards are going to work the same as they have for the past few Seasons, you can still be eligible for them. Only bans within the last 3 months of the Season would remove your eligibility.

ModPeriscope3 votes

feel free to be as toxic as I'd like. I'll just make sure to be toxic the way other players are toxic.

You're not locked out of rewards forever. You can improve your behavior and get back honor as well as still be eligible for end of season rewards.

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

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You're not locked out of rewards forever. You can improve your behavior and get back honor as well as still be eligible for end of season rewards.

That's good to know. To be honest this was mostly a vent post to make myself feel better. Again, I don't feel particularly bad because that guy was a douche and I know he definitely didn't actually kys himself, but I don't honestly plan on being deliberately toxic. It just felt cathartic to say it.

o brigid o2 votes

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I feel free to be as toxic as I'd like. I'll just make sure to be toxic the way other players are toxic. I'll stick to "god you're shit," "you lost us the game," and "this is why you'll be bronze forever" like everyone else instead of two or three autoban phrases.

This will get you permabanned. Since you will be coming off a 14 day suspension, even 1 report is enough to trigger a review and if it looks like you're being negative at all - not just using trigger words - they will ban you forever.

I hope being salty and going out of your way to be negative toward other people trying to play will be worth losing your account of several years.

With this kind of attitude, no one will be sorry to see you go.

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

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This will get you permabanned. Since you will be coming off a 14 day suspension, even 1 report is enough to trigger a review and if it looks like you're being negative at all - not just using trigger words - they will ban you forever.

I hope being salty and going out of your way to be negative toward other people trying to play will be worth losing your account of several years.

With this kind of attitude, no one will be sorry to see you go.

That is absolutely fine by me. If the lopsided system claps otherwise highly honorable players while consistently toxic game-ruiners get to run rampant, I'll take it as a sign that I'm better off being gone.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

This post is going to get slammed by people looking down on you for claiming that you plan to be toxic. I know that you said further down that you only said it because saying so was cathartic, but you might want to clean that statement up so you don't get any unnecessary harassment from people who aren't willing to chill out.

Also just a heads up, any punishable behavior would result in a permaban after this, so even just the minor forms of negativity that you suggested you would do could get you banned. I don't recommend doing any of that, not only will it get you punished, but it won't make your games fun anyways.

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

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This post is going to get slammed by people looking down on you for claiming that you plan to be toxic. I know that you said further down that you only said it because saying so was cathartic, but you might want to clean that statement up so you don't get any unnecessary harassment from people who aren't willing to chill out.

Also just a heads up, any punishable behavior would result in a permaban after this, so even just the minor forms of negativity that you suggested you would do could get you banned. I don't recommend doing any of that, not only will it get you punished, but it won't make your games fun anyways.

Yeah I'll probably just have my mute button hotkeyed from now on or something. People really aren't worth the trouble they cause.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bouncemaster Zac,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-01-24T23:27:46.326+0000)

Yeah I'll probably just have my mute button hotkeyed from now on or something. People really aren't worth the trouble they cause.

Best of luck to you then, and if you are interested in learning any tricks for dealing with teammates let me know, I've got a whole writeup on it that teaches how to get more from teammates.

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

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Best of luck to you then, and if you are interested in learning any tricks for dealing with teammates let me know, I've got a whole writeup on it that teaches how to get more from teammates.

Well thanks for being chill and taking the time to read through my own and everyone else's replies. Didn't exactly give a great impression of myself, obviously, with my original post. But I have to say:

https://imgur.com/a/kRe7b

HalcyonDweller1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bouncemaster Zac,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-25T02:00:12.108+0000)

Well thanks for being chill and taking the time to read through my own and everyone else's replies. Didn't exactly give a great impression of myself, obviously, with my original post. But I have to say:

https://imgur.com/a/kRe7b

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Butt Ρlug1 votes

If you reply to him with "kys" you are lowering yourself to his level and thus you deserve a punishment if you get reported for it.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

chat logs?

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-22T07:32:37.852+0000)

chat logs?

No that's not what I'm annoyed about. I told someone "kys," that's an autoban. I get that. I know I did something I wasn't supposed to. This thread was more of a complaint about the way the system works than an "I did nothing wrong" type of thing.

The Cream Reaper2 votes

I told someone "kys," that's an autoban. I get that. I know I did something I wasn't supposed to. This thread was more of a complaint about the way the system works

you're a weird weird snowflake

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-01-22T07:57:27.381+0000)

you're a weird weird snowflake

I'm not sure what you mean but I'll say yeah probably.

The Cream Reaper2 votes

because you admit that you were wrong but you still complain about the system being wrong

it's like a guy punching a wall, and then admitting that he shouldn't have done that but still complaining that the wall is hard

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

TrulyBland3 votes

I don't really want to take OP's side here, but that wall-analogy doesn't really show any special behaviour. That's just pretty basic human (albeit stupid) behaviour . Don't act like you've never cursed at an inanimate object after stumping your toe on it.

OP stumped his toe on Riot's system, now he's cursing at it. At least he does acknowledge he should've been careful where he was stepping.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

Don't act like you've never cursed at an inanimate object after stumping your toe on it.

OP stumped his toe on Riot's system, now he's cursing at it. At least he does acknowledge he should've been careful where he was stepping.

im just not sure that it merits a post

i don't care how hard you hit your toe, it's not enough of a motive for a written complaint

TrulyBland1 votes

Fair enough. It is admittedly a more... "extroverted" version of yelling at a chair. Still, this kind of thread is pretty common. People just don't like being responsible for bad stuff that happens to them... even especially when they're aware of how their own actions made it happen.

Bouncemaster Zac2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-22T08:32:31.621+0000)

im just not sure that it merits a post

i don't care how hard you hit your toe, it's not enough of a motive for a written complaint

Hey man, where else am I gonna pointlessly complain? To my friend who stopped playing two years ago? Like I said in a couple other replies, this was ultimately a vent post and I'm a lot less bothered by what happened now. also if i could write an angry letter to a piece of furniture and have the furniture actually read it id be all over that

The Cream Reaper1 votes

im not complaining that you're complaining

i merely said that you're weird for doing it

you can do whatever you want

[sg-ahri-2]

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-01-22T08:50:22.822+0000)

im not complaining that you're complaining

i merely said that you're weird for doing it

you can do whatever you want

[sg-ahri-2]

Is it really weird though? I was under the impression dumb complaint threads like mine were common.

TrulyBland2 votes

Gotta love how a complain-thread turned into a discussion about the nature of complaining.

[{quoted}](name=Bouncemaster Zac,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-01-22T08:47:37.284+0000)

also if i could write an angry letter to a piece of furniture and have the furniture actually read it id be all over that

A weird thread about the nature of complaining. I love it.

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

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Gotta love how a complain-thread turned into a discussion about the nature of complaining.

A weird thread about the nature of complaining. I love it.

Well yeah I wasn't just trying to paint a pretty picture of myself when I said I'm normally not toxic. I've cooled off from when I made the post, and I do actually like discussion.

Telephone Booth1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bouncemaster Zac,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000000100010000,timestamp=2018-01-22T09:06:25.771+0000)

Well yeah I wasn't just trying to paint a pretty picture of myself when I said I'm normally not toxic. I've cooled off from when I made the post, and I do actually like discussion.

It was actually good. Lmao "I'd be all over that"

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-22T08:19:43.318+0000)

because you admit that you were wrong but you still complain about the system being wrong

it's like a guy punching a wall, and then admitting that he shouldn't have done that but still complaining that the wall is hard

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Oh, right. That. I mean, I don't think the system should apply differently to me or anything. I just think the system as a whole needs an overhaul. I've been playing for years and haven't gone more than three games without someone being a dick and frequently see those same people several matches later on that day, still being dicks. Meanwhile, I'm generally never toxic and have been a high-honors player for years and get hit with an instaban due to an automated keyphrase I used during a moment of personal weakness. If I were toxic regularly I'd feel different.

Ph03n1xb1rd1 votes

If you don't post your chat logs, and a print screen too, you have no proof that this was your ONLY offense. That's what he meant.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Wow you're bad at learning from mistakes lol. The lesson you and any reasonable person should have learned from this, is not to type specific words that will automatically trigger a ban.

Bouncemaster Zac1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-01-23T23:07:18.959+0000)

Wow you're bad at learning from mistakes lol. The lesson you and any reasonable person should have learned from this, is not to type specific words that will automatically trigger a ban.

I said that, though. :/

Telephone Booth2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bouncemaster Zac,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GxhE4Edh,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-01-24T08:41:29.660+0000)

I said that, though. :/

Yes you did, I looked back and I don't know wtf I was replying to. Hahaha sorry

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