If you are going to berate, belittle, antagonize, harass, degrade, and/or insult your allies, I would rather hit the surrender option as many times as it is made available and end the game on a loss than tolerate your presence for another minute.
Magical Player19 votesMute button does not work?
notice me Sin pi29 votes
signals that enemies are missing
signals that enemies are missing
signals that enemies are missing
signals that enemies are missing
signals to be careful
signals to be careful
Magical Player27 votes[{quoted}](name=SAO T1 Yui,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9zXucA5q,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-02-23T22:32:37.466+0000)
Riven appears to be warning someone that an enemy is missing and that they should be careful. Not seeing anything wrong with it
Schàdenfreude8 votesPretending to be dumb is so satisfying and it also annoys the other person XD.
notice me Sin pi3 votesi actually lol-ed at his comment, didnt find it annoying at all
DUDE BRO7 votes[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9zXucA5q,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-23T22:34:25.463+0000)
Riven appears to be warning someone that an enemy is missing and that they should be careful. Not seeing anything wrong with it
You miss a skillshot
signals that enemies are missing
signals that enemies are missing
signals that enemies are missing
You die in any way
signals that enemies are missing
signals that enemies are missing
signals that enemies are missing
Enemies are actually missing
...
They finally appear and kill you
signals that enemies are missing
signals that enemies are missing
signals that enemies are missing
Pyr0mrcow3 votesmute pings, it's with all the other audio sliders
Papa Andrei6 votesYe it doesn't stop them from showing up on the map.
Jesus is Savior4 votesmute pings, it's with all the other audio sliders
I have played with pings muted for like 2 years, and 10 question marks appearing above my head STILL tilts me and affects my performance.
Dominick Destine17 votesI'd rather have someone that "berates, belittles, antagnoizes, harasses, degrades and/or insults his allies" than a feeder/idiot.
What matters in ranked is your performance, it's not a popularity contest.
onlydreamsnow12 votes^ I agree, I'm here to win, not to make bffs. As long as he wins me the game, I couldn't care less what he says.
D2PoliceGotMe6 votesi agree aswell, idk why this post got so many upvotes, most of the hard carries flame the feeder/idiot because they care about winning/losing meanwhile that idiot cant even accept the flame despite getting his ass carried.
Snowman Arc3 votesExactly. If he is trying his hardest to win and I'm an idiot who goes around and feeds and ruins the game for him, then I feel that he isn't wrong if he flames me.
GayFluffyUnicorn5 votesSo true. Had a few games were even when we flamed each other we still pubstomped the shit out of the enemy team. There was this olaf jungle ganking me and the enemy lee came to countergank, i got killed, viktor survived with like 10 hp and lee died to olaf. Olaf flamed something i flamed back how "you blind fuck can't hit 10hp viktor after three tries with your axes". After some flames he still gave me blue every time (something all those oh so friendly teamplaying junglers don't do) and we proceeded to carry the game. Was satisfying. As long as they perform well they can flame all they want idc.
R1NGW0LF2 votesI can't argue this one, sometimes I rib back just for the sheer joy of a said flame war that leads to victory as we just got to keep one upping each other.
may the stars guide you
HwyToTheDngrZone12 votes[deleted]
ADepressedLeona7 votesThe fact that this was upvoted...
I Like Things 5 votesInspiring, isn't it? [slayer-jinx-catface]
nawillzonny12 votesIf you are going to give up and surrender in a ranked game while 3 other people who did nothing wrong have to deal with you being a baby, I'm going to report you.
fatherdarius5 votesIf you're going to be salty and therefore statistically bias the outcome of the match in the enemies favor, you deserve the loss. The people who are playing with you deserve a better behaved (even if less skilled) teammate.
nawillzonny6 votesNope, if 2 people are arguing being a baby while i have said nothing i do not deserve to lose the game because of them. NEVER implied that i was the one flaming so stfu.
Êmperor12 votesBetter than having someone who's feeding on top of talking shit lmao
SzGamer2275 votesNah because the 1/15 guy who flames your team is an entertaining asshole because of the irony. The 15/1 guy who flames your team is just an asshole.
iamthegoatofwar9 votesSorry but if I'm hard carrying you need to pick up your slack and at the very least support me. If need be quite literally die for me. Don't make me lose cause I'm trying to handle all the slack.
fatherdarius6 votesRespect is earned by sportsmanlike behavior. If you want us to pick up the slack, behave as though you deserve. Your performance on the field of justice is secondary.
Dominick Destine5 votesRespect is earned by sportsmanlike behavior.
Uhh no, that might be true in ARAM and unranked, but in ranked you play to win. Skill = Respect
It's not complicated.... I'm noticing everyone in this thread that thinks "Be nice" is more important than "Be good/Don't feed" are bronze / plat+ respectively. Good players know that performance is everything.
3TWarrior2 votesrandom player goes meta
random player starts winning every match
random player gets matched with people doing exactly the same thing he or she is doing
"wtf this is boring..."
random player decides to do their own thing and work with the team
random player has a 50/50 chance of winning or losing
random player gets matched with meta players still but now has a chance to impress them and inspire cooperation with helpful advice and team gameplay
"This is the league I joined league for"
Runes cause one of the biggest differences between ranked and unranked games
for instance on the topic of runes, although they are an integral part of the game now, it can be quite frustrating when a champ has a stat lead over you by 20 or 30 points just because they specialized for it with runes or how much runes alter gameplay statistics such as reducing a champion's base armor to near 0 or actually to zero
this is one of the reasons players are complaining about the current meta of lethality builds as it makes what used to be a very specialized tactic that showed the player put a lot of work into making a build for a champion or at least a lot of gameplay...compared to actually having such a strategy available from the get go without investment
skill may be everything, but don't forget that cooperating with teammates and at least contributing by not being detrimental is also skill. This is something every support player has to learn, although the mage supports might not have to do so as much.
Dominick Destine3 votesThis is the league I joined league for
Sure, and you can troll as much as you want.... just not in ranked.
3TWarrior1 votesI said nothing about trolling...it's almost as if you did not read the post...
hmmm
Pheta3 votesYou do know what meta stands for right? You know it's a acronym, right? It stands for (M.ost E.fficent T.atctic A.vailable) so it kinda makes sense if you're playing ranked, to play a champ and build that is proven to be very efficient. If you want to play a non-meta champ, that's fine, but there is an expectation. You're playing ranked, which isn't just for fun, and people sit down and seriously try to win a match. If you can't give them the respect and seriously try to win, then yes, you should expect to be flamed. If you wanna try stuff out or just have fun, go play normals or the practice tool works just as well. There is NO excuse for not giving effort in a ranked game (that's called trolling FYI) and it explains why ranked is so meta-bound. People wanna win, and so they try with the best tools given to them. I'm not sure what point you were trying to make here, but if you're getting bored of the meta, play norms or hell, play ARAM. It's not even real League, and you can mess around all you want. But if you sit down to play a game of ranked, you're expected to try, and if someone has to work harder to make up for your lack of trying, then I see no problems with him flaming the everloving soul out of you.
3TWarrior1 votesI did not say that the player should not play without the intention to win...
again, you are putting words into my post and show a level of evaluation similar to narcissism
yes, anyone who goes into ranked without the intention to win is clearly toxic, but nothing says that you can not have fun and be a good person while intending to win?
As you are now, you have insulted both myself and my intelligence not once but twice while trying to present your opinion on a matter. Riot has even statistically proven that positive players consistently win more games...it was a small difference of about 3% , but the result is there.
If you will not take a moment to step back, cool off and listen to reason while evaluating my post and all contained within it, I will no longer justify a response.
Pheta2 votesI feel like you're missing out on a critical part of my response. When you are playing meta champs and builds, you are actively trying, and that is apparent because, while you may not enjoy playing X Champion with Y Build that's been done 1000 times before, you're doing it in an attempt to win. Playing some off meta pick is also an indicator that you aren't trying. This isn't saying you aren't because of not picking off-meta champs. It's an indicator, so if you pick an off-meta champ, your team is already thinking about what would happen if you play badly. If you play an off-meta champ and you get put behind, it is a lot harder to come back than if you had played a meta champ.
Also, if you wanna go ahead and talk about insulting players, and not being worthy of a reply, here's some of your own thrown right back in your face:
show a level of evaluation similar to narcissism it's almost as if you did not read the post...
If you want to talk about insulting others while trying to make your point valid, then you are just as guilty as any of us, and acting differently will not change that fact, and trying to separate yourself from 'toxic' players does not make you any better or any different if you're taking the same approaches.
To put the final nail in the coffin, your post was horribly justified and tried to make itself justified by your own logic:
random player decides to do their own thing and work with the team
random player has a 50/50 chance of winning or losing
This is not statistically proven, and there is no indication of playing an off meta champ, or 'doing your own thing' as you put it, increases your chance of winning. Working with your teammates is good, but 'doing your own thing' can sometimes be the same as not working with your team in the first place.
You wouldn't want your support tank to start building straight damage, would you? You wouldn't want your jungler to ignore lanes and just farm, would you? Those two statements of yours are actively contradicting each other, and I'm not sure how else to explain this to you without you getting #triggered.
Also, if you feel I've insulted you twice within one comment, please feel free to point that out. As far as I'm aware my comment was perfectly civil, and I would like to see you contribute to the conversation rather than try to distract the conversation with accusations, justifications, and statistics rather than discuss the content of the actual post, which was regarding META picks and trying.
Please feel free to respond if this isn't too derogatory for you. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
3TWarrior1 votesI will point out my criticisms of your posts because you responded in a "civil" manner, but I will start with your passive-aggression to your posts.
the second, concerning my post about how you inserted trolling into my post whether in a joking manner or not, it was directly unrelated to my post and almost implicitly stated that you did not take me seriously.
Third, as per narcissism, each of your responses is directed as a weapon against me and not as shield for the issues at hand.
In ranked, the intention is to win and prove your skill. Skill is a variable term afforded to any number of scenarios not implying luck including the player's ability to adapt, to change the meta (for instance, using your own acronym (thank you for the word as I had temporarily forgotten it) meta stands for most efficient tactic available. To the player, going off meta or using the champions that the player is familiar with is more than credible compared to an unfamiliar champion or a disheartening and boring, though efficient, method)
as you may have noticed yourself, if a player is complacent in that their strategy is effective, it leaves the player vulnerable to pride affecting their judgement and their attention to detail
Pheta2 votesI appreciate your reply, but firstly, let me shut you down on narcissism. You are not automatically in the right here, and to try to take the higher moral ground in a discussion only emphasizes the passive aggressive attitude I have taken in my previous posts.
I will point out my criticisms of your posts because you responded in a "civil" manner, but I will start with your passive-aggression to your posts. show a level of evaluation similar to narcissism
You will point them out 'only' because I responded 'in a civil manner'? If you don't want to reply, you don't have to force yourself to, nor do you have to act or sound so smug while doing so. You're clearly not civil, as I've pointed out in my previous post, and to keep ignoring that just adds fuel to the fire.
As for the passive-agressive approach to all of my posts, I'm not 100% sure if you're joking here or not, but this is discussion. You use arguments to explain your viewpoint and how it's valid, and back yours up in response to attacks from your debater. This is how discussion works.
That being said, I never 'inserted trolling' into your post. I clearly stated, and I quote:
There is NO excuse for not giving effort in a ranked game (that's called trolling FYI)
If you are not actively trying to win the game, and take steps with that in mind, you are actively working against the goal of the game, which is defined as griefing, which under riot's report system and their EULA, is referred to as 'trolling' I never inserted or insinuated that you were trolling, nor did I accuse you of it directly. I simply stated if you don't try to win in a ranked game, you are actively working against the rest of your team's goal, and thus trolling.
To clarify, I'm not talking about Meta picks versus off-meta picks. In fact, I couldn't care less if you play meta or not. Like I tried to explain earlier, playing off-meta can be an indication of not trying. While I disagree with your viewpoints on meta vs. off-meta, this is not the focus of the discussion. If you want to look down on players that play meta champs, as evidenced in your last two sentences in the above post, that is your prerogative, but that makes you neither superior nor more intelligent that players who play meta champions.
I wholeheartedly recommend you take a good hard look at your posts and understand that the narcissism doesn't come from me, and you reevaluate your attitude, as it is borderline toxic, and it is not healthy for you or those around you.
GayFluffyUnicorn5 votesThe perfomance in a RANKED environment is secondary. K. Always thought ranked is about your perfomance and skill. Now i know why riot dumbs down this game and bans every "toxic" player but leaves the brand buying tears and running it down mid in my game unpunished.
Eunson7 votesYou're one of those people who refuse to be carried because you're not the star of the show aren't you? Take the persons advice that's superior to you and enjoy the freelo.
Woodakoodashooda3 votesElitism is a clear sign of an inferior opinion.
Spicy Rice4 votesI can't tell if you are memeing, or if you're just that stupid
SzGamer2272 votesHaving a good game doesn't mean you're superior to everyone else on your team. At the end of the day you're all still in the same MMR. Unless you get carried by a toxic smurf/booster in their first couple of games before their MMR increases to match their skill level, the people who flame you are not better (nor worse) players than yourself.
If someone flames their team for playing poorly, tells them that they're bad at the game, that they should uninstall, etc, that someone should really be taking their own advice. Because they wouldn't be matchmade with those teammates if they were even slightly better than them.
Eunson2 votesOr the person carrying is a smurf?
DonGiovanni6 votesAre you OK if I belittle the enemy instead?
50000000000000007 votesI'm gonna report that for being unsportsmanlike.
QuickenedBlade6 votes[{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9zXucA5q,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-23T17:47:13.208+0000)
My pride is more important than winning. Do not point out any mistakes or I will afk at fountain.
V The Support V4 votesThere is another button you can hit. Under tab click the Speaker symbol and "mute" the offender.
Ramy Fleshlight4 votes[{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9zXucA5q,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-23T17:47:13.208+0000)
If you are going to berate, belittle, antagonize, harass, degrade, and/or insult your allies, I would rather hit the surrender option as many times as it is made available and end the game on a loss than tolerate your presence for another minute.
this is the kind of bullshit feminist beliefs that got trump in office because literally NOBODY agrees with you but won't say so because they will be ridiculed for it.
thank you for existing, you alone prevented us from the danger of hilary by being such a sensitive being
Troll Slaiyer3 votesonly 
can get away with being toxic while carrying
fatherdarius7 votesBut 
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Merchie J2 votesYea i'm not sure if you played ranked or what, but if someone was carrying me I wouldn't care at all if they were flaming. Just mute them, let them carry, and report them after the game. If you throw the game just because you don't like someone on your team than you are just as bad as the one flaming you.
yung swisher2 votes[{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9zXucA5q,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-23T17:47:13.208+0000)
If you are going to berate, belittle, antagonize, harass, degrade, and/or insult your allies, I would rather hit the surrender option as many times as it is made available and end the game on a loss than tolerate your presence for another minute.
Passive aggressively spamming surrender every few minutes is toxic behavior, tbh
magemain33522 votesWhy does this have almost 50 upvotes? Attempting to surrender when your team is even or ahead should be considered intentional feeding and be punishable.