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Stop it! "Wait till I carry"...players

HavokDash··1 votes·1,478 views

You know the type, The jungler who wont help any lane, who will let enemies get fed, the player who expects the whole Game to be put on hold untill THEY get that ONE item That will suddenly flip the switch.

Just lost a game with a Lee who spent the whole game saying that. Top lane was having a hard time dealing with lag. Lee refused to help any lanes who were struggling and getting picked off by the enemy Kayn Meanwhile all we heard from him is "Just wait guys. I just need one item then i can carry just hold out till them" (spoiler alert: we lost, he never got that item)

But he was happy to constantly remind us how we just have to hold out till he got that ONE item and the whole game would be flipped. Meanwhile enemy team is getting dragons and towers. They snag baron. Top lane is gone. And morgana tells us how its the "Teams fault" that the jungler had no presence "Its ok Lee, the rest of the team has to step up its game"

The enemy isnt gonna sit and wait till you think you are "OP" enough to carry. Dont screw over everyone else on your team by insisting they "Wait" for you. This is really starting to piss me off, seeing this kind of arrogance and bravado. The sort of "Im too op for my team....only not yet, I will make them wait for me to be OP" attitude. If you really want to sit there and be a "solo carry" Do everyone a favor and uninstall. Go play Super mario bros. you can have the high score to your heart's content. But dont sit there and make everyone else "wait till I carry", The enemy team isnt gonna wait for you to get that "one item"

The match starts when all 5 players appear in spawn, it does not start "After lvl 6", and Not when you decide you have the proper items to be "op" and flaunt it infront of the rest of your team "look at my kills, How OP am I?"

8 Comments

Arisha the Dark2 votes

Ok, some champions are actually intended to work that way. For example Yi. He can carry if you let him farm for a bit. But in example that you made, Kayne is the champion that can get assassin form, one item and delete enemy carries, not Lee. Lee is early game ganker that falls off late, turning into an off-tank with very good utility on ultimate. He is not meant to be a high damage carry.

Still, point is, it depends on champion and team composition. Not all champions can be high damage carries and not all teams can fight 4 vs 5 enough time to let carry get that one item. Strategy is not bad, execution can be.

HavokDash1 votes

I understand there are some more "late game" champs. I am not talking about those.

I am talking about people who expect One or both teams to "Wait" for as long as it takes for them to get that ONE item that is TOTALLY gonna flip the switch and they will then go on to instantly start 1-shotting everyone. So they go on and on about how "wait for me and I will carry"

Meanwhile the enemy team (who isnt gonna wait for you to finish your "im too op" build) is focussing towers taking baron. teammates are losing lanes while they "Wait" for you and these people will lose the entire game while still repeatedly going on "Just wait guys, wait for me and I will carry"

If you were gonna carry, YOU WOULD HAVE DONE SO. The game isnt gonna pause and wait till you decide you are ready to play with your team. For most of these players its more of an ego thing. They want to be the SOLO carry. They dont want anyone else showing them up so they want to make the whole team wait for them. Then they can go on to beat thier chest and brag about how "OP" they are.

I repeat. The enemy team isnt gonna sit around and wait for you to be OP. So dont expect your team to wait for you.

(PS. I use "you" as a general term, Not targetting you directly. You = the "wait till I carry" players)

Arisha the Dark2 votes

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I understand there are some more "late game" champs. I am not talking about those.

I am talking about people who expect One or both teams to "Wait" for as long as it takes for them to get that ONE item that is TOTALLY gonna flip the switch and they will then go on to instantly start 1-shotting everyone. So they go on and on about how "wait for me and I will carry"

Meanwhile the enemy team (who isnt gonna wait for you to finish your "im too op" build) is focussing towers taking baron. teammates are losing lanes while they "Wait" for you and these people will lose the entire game while still repeatedly going on "Just wait guys, wait for me and I will carry"

If you were gonna carry, YOU WOULD HAVE DONE SO. The game isnt gonna pause and wait till you decide you are ready to play with your team. For most of these players its more of an ego thing. They want to be the SOLO carry. They dont want anyone else showing them up so they want to make the whole team wait for them. Then they can go on to beat thier chest and brag about how "OP" they are.

I repeat. The enemy team isnt gonna sit around and wait for you to be OP. So dont expect your team to wait for you.

(PS. I use "you" as a general term, Not targetting you directly. You = the "wait till I carry" players)

A question. You said team won't wait for that kind of players and ofc would loose, but what if you do wait?

I mean, it is a legitimate strategy to stall the game. Not push, only defend until your late game champions/composition kicks in.

Sure you might not want to do it, but if you win, why not?

HavokDash1 votes

Yeah but these people dont say "hey I am gonna get X item, so just play safe" in the lobby. They will wait till the lanes are being lost, people are dying all over the place..and then decide "I will build X item, just wait for ME" So they seem to want to expect the whole game to be put on hold AFTER the enemy team is snowballing.

I can understand some champs are late game. But there was No discussion of this in the lobby. It just seemed like lee didnt know what he was doing and just wanted the whole game to be put on hold till he was ready to come in and play savior.

Kei1431 votes

But power spikes are real.

I can be a 0/9/3 zyra support doing horribly through lane and kept getting collapsed on when I'm warding alone during laning phase, but once I get my sorc shoes, orb (morello component, not sure what that item name is), and liandrys, I can pretty much support carry pretty well. Especially when no one builds MR.

I have won such a game before, and the come back feels good.

HavokDash1 votes

I understand power spikes, But This lee didnt let anyone know that he wanted them to "Wait for him" untill after the lanes were being lost and we were looking to jungle for some help, instead he just comes back with "Wait for me to build X and I will carry, just hold out till then" So we ended up losing because this lee wanted to put the whole game on hold and make his team "Wait for him" while the enemy team certainly wasnt gonna wait around for him to get his power spike item.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

If someone's going to play a late game champ or build, I do wish they'd present it better. "I'm gonna build up slow, so be careful early on," rather than "I'll carry later."

Just saying you're gonna carry sends an arrogant, self-absorbed message whether you mean it to or not.

HavokDash1 votes

I agree. If you are gonna carry? THEN DO IT! dont expect the team to sit back and cripple themselves while already having a hard enough time. All so a player can come in and play superman. All because They want to be the hero.

As I stated above, if lee had mentioned that he was gonna build X late game item in the lobby, we could have played more cautious. But there was no talk of it. Instead after the lanes are being lost, thier jungle ganking bot lane continuous. We look to jungle for help and he comes back with "Dont worry, once I build X item, I will carry! Just hold till then"

Yeah...NO, The enemy team isnt gonna sit back and wait for you to get your late game item, all so you can try and showboat your team and 1shot. They arent gonna sit back and give you that opportunity. And yeah, saying that shows alot of arrogance and narcissism, someone who wants to make sure they get to play the hero and have everyone kissing thier ass in gratitude.

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