You obviously don't want people using chat.

Niyumi··4 votes·631 views

So just remove it already.

Or put all the little thin-skinned SJW babies in their own chat channel so they can complain about toxicity and create issues on their own. Let reasonable, non-insane people talk and be unhappy with things without fear of being punished for using trigger words or making the brats feel insecure.

And, let me tell you a secret: You CANNOT ruin a game with chat. Normal people (AKA, not obsessive to the point of insanity) don't even care what people on the internet say. What ruins games is trolls, your horrible matching system, your greed-driven balance, and so on. Could fix those instead of policing chat which is irrelevant.

Hell, we should censor half the champs too.

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Chermorg9 votes

Or, hear me out here,

Riot could expect people to be normal, decent human beings, and when they aren't, remove them from interacting with other human beings.

Niyumi1 votes

Or, hear me out here,

Riot could know that competitive games, EVEN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, go hand in hand with frustration. But that's just silly talk.

Chermorg7 votes

Or, they could expect you to use methods of releasing your frustration that don't affect other people?

Niyumi1 votes

Wanna know one of the most common methods of venting? Yelling out loud, or some other noise.

Now, translate that into a video game. You "talk" with a keyboard, right? So, instead of yelling out loud, you type out loud.

Chermorg7 votes

You know the concept of ejection in baseball? The concept of a card in soccer?

Yeah. That's the concept of a ban in League of Legends. You can't go around on the playing field verbally abusing people.

If you can't healthily deal with frustration, you are by definition unsportsmanlike. Unsportsmanlike players are generally not permitted to play sports.

Niyumi1 votes

Whoever said I was verbally abusing anyone? It's like you stub your toe or something and yell about it to no one in particular. Not abusing anyone -- you might be annoying, but that's about the extent of it.

Now, imagine if we threw you in jail for doing that.

Chermorg1 votes

If you keep screaming about your toe, you'll be asked to stop. If you don't stop, you'll be removed from the public environment.

Subdue5 votes

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Wanna know one of the most common methods of venting? Yelling out loud, or some other noise.

Now, translate that into a video game. You "talk" with a keyboard, right? So, instead of yelling out loud, you type out loud.

So... why can't you just yell out or make some kind of noise?

Why does it matter to you that the other players in your game know your frustration if you're just "venting?"

Niyumi1 votes

Because I yell, and my internet gets shut off by my very OCD-ridden parents. And that WOULD actually ruin the game for my team.

I get muted most of the time anyway. Don't really care if they know anything.

Subdue3 votes

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Because I yell, and my internet gets shut off by my very OCD-ridden parents. And that WOULD actually ruin the game for my team.

I get muted most of the time anyway. Don't really care if they know anything.

So apparently there are consequences for raging in the real world too. Who would have guessed?

SecondAirbane1 votes

so basically what i'm getting is you'd rather have an afk than a flamer? makes sense yeah

GeminiRune1 votes

I'd rather have someone who can show a sense of subtlety and self control instead of throw it on everyone else. I mean if that type of player wants to lose and make the team lose with it, that's just how it'll go.

Subdue1 votes

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so basically what i'm getting is you'd rather have an afk than a flamer? makes sense yeah

What is a false dichotomy?

ModPrandine8 votes

It's not that Riot doesn't want people using chat, it's that they (and the community as a whole in general) don't want people using it to verbally abuse and harass other players. It's definitely possible to use chat to communicate with your team as well as have general conversations with them as well, but if you can't use chat without insulting other players then the problem is you and no one elses and you deserve to be held accountable for your poor behavior. Yes trolls are a problem, but proving intent is trickier than simple chat related offenses.

Bottom line: both are a problem and both need to be handled the right way, but it's not as simple as some make it out to be. if you disagree with Riot's behavioral rules then feel free to go to a game that has rules more to your liking.

Niyumi3 votes

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it's that they (and the community as a whole in general) don't want people using it to verbally abuse and harass other players.

Well see, that's where you're lying. I never harass anyone, but I often complain about champions being broken and Riot being greedy, or about bad matching, etc. (and when I do, I never once talked about anyone in my game. But rather the champ itself) But see, my chat logs have the trigger words for the auto bot, so I get punished anyway. I could write up the most offensive thing you could ever imagine, but as long as I used polite language, nothing would happen.

Yes trolls are a problem, but proving intent is trickier than simple chat related offenses.

If other game companies can do it, then Riot can too. They're just making up excuses to not have to actually pay a moderation team.

Bottom line: both are a problem and both need to be handled the right way, but it's not as simple as some make it out to be. if you disagree with Riot's behavioral rules then feel free to go to a game that has rules more to your liking.

In today's hyper vain little society, there is no game that's really to my liking anymore, as far as moderation goes. People who actually ruin games (for example, there was a guild in WoW dedicated to crashing the world servers for somewhere around four years before I quit the game, nothing happened) go unpunished, but SJWs have their way with chat all the time.

Silent Gravity4 votes

If no one on the internet cares what you say, and will completely ignore you...why type anything at all?

If you, a reasonable, non-insane person gets upset with a game and wants to cry, whine and insult people....wait...

That line doesn't work very well. Why would a normal person throw a temper tantrum? That sounds more like the 'babies' insult you threw out there earlier.

Niyumi3 votes

People, no matter how old they are or how mature they are, are vulnerable to this thing called frustration. And then there's this thing called venting that people typically do, right?

Kind of a common thing.

Zezockary7 votes

True, the issue is that you are venting by making the experience of others worse.

Find a way to vent that doesn't make a complete ass out of yourself. Yell at your screen, play a funny 30 second youtube clip, put a ball on your desk to throw, get a friggen fidget spinner idc, just keep it out of the game.

SecondAirbane1 votes

you say "dont make a complete ass out of yourself" yet all the "solutions" you described are ways to make a complete ass of yourself

and please lets be real here if we're frustrated do you honestly think we're gonna laugh ?

Zezockary6 votes

It will relieve stress.

And none of those things are making a negative impact on your team.

SecondAirbane1 votes

1: no just no its stupid as fuck

2: how the fuck is complaining about a champion a negative experience

Umbral Regent4 votes

1 - It's not stupid, it's actually effective.

  • Yelling (shouting, cursing, etc; vocally expelling) helps to burn out anger and pain, so it can work as a form of stress-relief. (seriously, go look up Mythbusters - No Pain, No Gain, they've tested it.)
  • Watching funny things (or endearing things, whatever makes you happy) lightens your mood and makes you less negative, which, again, relieves stress. It can also help you distract yourself from the negative experience of the game, which further helps.
  • Physical distractions are also equally therapeutic (throwing a ball at a wall, squeezing a stress ball, screwing around with a fidget spinner, etc.), and so, lo and behold, relieve stress.

Typing, however, does not relieve stress, as all you're doing is channeling that negativity into a chat pane, not actually doing much if anything to alleviate it. Which, also, helps even less if the stressor is still there.


2 - Some people don't like when others complain about stuff, and believe it or not, emotions, even through text, where there is no emotional inflection, spread like a plague. When you type out all your frustrations with X champion or whatever, you're liable to spread that negative attitude to your teammates.

And when your teammates catch your negativity, they play worse, which, who would've guessed? Creates a negative experience.

Nobody's expecting you to laugh when you get frustrated; everyone deals with frustration, we understand it, but we don't want any Debbie-Downers spreading their negativity and impacting our performance.

If you want to complain, go find somebody that you know will listen; you can burn out to them, but do not expect strangers to want to listen to your ineffective venting.

SecondAirbane1 votes

Idk whats more saddening the fact that people actually agree with you or the fact that you took all that time to make this comment its not fucking punishable unless youre spewing some special slurs

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Actually he made a pretty great comment and I think you should pay more attention to it. The ones that ignore this kind of advice are the ones that keep getting punishments and lose their account.

SecondAirbane1 votes

Yet im here sitting on this same account deescalating punishments climbing in soloq and earning $$$ in tourneys no ban for me? But as u just said people like me end up getting punished i have a right to an opinion and i wont change it in this matter and my opinion is its dumb as hell that u would ever get punished for complaining about a champion

Niyumi2 votes

Don't make a complete ass out of myself... because ranting to myself about bullshit champions is being an asshole. Okay then.

Zezockary5 votes

Ranting to yourself is not being an asshole, ranting to your team is. Keep it out of the game.

ModPeriscope4 votes

Your post kinda rambles...remove chat, wait don't do that, make it where I can use chat, but I don't wanna play with people who will report me, because I don't ruin games, trolls do.

It sounds like maybe you should play with a premade of friends, that way you can communicate the way you want, and no trolls.

SecondAirbane1 votes

No premades in soloq

ModPeriscope2 votes

He seemed to place an emphasis on being able to say whatever he wanted over ranking up. I don't think that any option would suffice.

Squidwards House1 votes

i legit dont give a fuck what anyone says on the internet. there is only one thing that would trigger me but you'd never guess that so its fine. still doesnt mean you have to be a dickface lol

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