"I can Solo carry, just wait for me"

HavokDash··2 votes·352 views

If you were gonna solo carry, you would have done so already

More and more games I am seeing people who wait till the match is over. When the team has less than HALF the towers. Or in my previous game we were getting stomped roughly 22 v 3 before the 15 minute mark. All 4 of us admitted we played hard but the match was lost. And we agreed we would be surrendering. But had a Varus adc who refused to surrender because "I got statik shiv, Im gonna change the game" He was already 0/4 at the time. We lost the game with Varus being 1/6 and still refusing to surrender.

I can understand being confident. But I am growing tired of these people who will look at a naked nexus on their team, Not a SINGLE downed tower on the enemy side. The score in Double-digit difference (like 35 v 2) and will STILL intentionally vote no because they think they will get ONE item that will COMPLETELY turn them into a god-player. These are the "God Teir" delusionals who feed into the toxicity of the match because They are so overconfident that while the rest of the team has admitted "we fought hard, they fought harder! we played good, they played better" and concede that the better team won. ONE person (sometimes 2) will hold everyone else hostage, make everyone else miserable because they are unwilling to look at the match and see that some matches ARE BEYOND RECOVERY.

Often even when the match is already lost, they will hold thier team hostage and make thier team "wait for me". Often something along the line of "Wait for me, Once I get X item, I can solo carry us to a win" and then they end up feeding the enemy 3 more kills while intentionally voting no. There has to be a limit to this "I'm too good" attitude. Sometimes, Matches are NOT WINNABLE. Just respectfully concede, surrender and move on. You make your team miserable because While they admit the match is lost, these players will whip and harrass them and tell them to act like its a world final match or they will be reported for "giving up" (When the match is 48 v 3 and the enemy is knocking on your nexus, these players will still report people for not hard pushing with them like its LCS Finals).

Yes Its fine to be optimistic, nothing wrong with that. But this "Im the best at anything" attitude has to stop. This idea that people can 1v5 solo a match that was already over and come out like rambo. There is a chance to win every match, But NOT EVERY MATCH IS WINNABLE. If its 38 v 5, You have no towers, they have all dragons (and elder) and supers knocking on your door. WHy do you insist on putting your team through hell just because YOU think YOU can "Solo carry" to a win, even when not a single enemy tower is Downed.

YOU ARE NOT AS OP AS YOU THINK YOU ARE. YOU ARE NOT AN OP 1V5 SOLO CARRY

You beat your head against a brick wall untill you see blood, and think it is the wall that is bleeding and ready to come down (because you are just that good)

11 Comments

Mordius2 votes

The amount of time's I've won early game and had my team throw and lose is high. You never know what could happen. Your enemy can throw at any moment. Rather than obsessing over surrendering, you should be focusing on winning, that is the whole point of the game.

If you can't pull a game around when things turn bad, you will never climb, because that is necessary to climb. If you think you can just enter a game, and expect to win early game every time, you are mistaken. Not surrendering isn't the problem. It's players like you who are quick to give up, as if the next game would be any different. Not only giving up, but harassing your team for not giving up with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ2hJezvd2I

HavokDash1 votes

Did you not hear what I said. The whole team, 4/5 players had come to a CONCESSUS, we had all agreed that the enemy was so far ahead there was no forseeable way to recover the match.

The varus however refused even though he was 0/4, feeding like the rest of us. And yet thought he could solo carry because "i got statik shiv" and so made the rest of us suffer. We all saw the objective truth, even as we tried we still got our asses handed to us, they were snowballing and 1shotting us. I am not quick to give up. I take alot of things into consideration. -is the team working together -how many towers have we taken? -How many towers are almost down? -How many kills do we have compared to the enemy? -is the team taking objectives or just trying to farm kills

these are the things i take into consideration. If it looks like we have a chance to make a comeback, Yeah I will give it a shot. But if Its 45 v 2 with no ally towers standing, an exposed nexus and no dragons, the team at each other's throat...We are not gonna win because the team is too busy going after each other to go after the enemy.

Umbral Regent1 votes

The only case in which one person alone can vote "no" on a Surrender vote and have the match keep going is if it was on early surrenders, in which case, all it'd really take is soldiering on through another five minutes to get the real surrender through.

I don't see any mention of the duration/time of the match, so I'm going to assume you had gotten beaten early and he voted "no" on the early surrenders. Even so, five minutes' wait isn't too awful long - sure, it sucks, but that's really kind of just all there is to it.

This Is Your Dad1 votes

Some of my volibear games, but not all of them, started out with me being 0/0/0 or worse for about 10 minutes into the game. Then I end the game at 13/2/15 or something because I got enough health items to not die too soon.

HavokDash1 votes

Yeah I can understand being a slow to start. But I am talking about the people who think that the match will change from a one-sided slaughter because they have one item that will flip some sort of magical switch. as I said the match was like 22 v 3, Everyone was doing poorly really. We had no teamwork and the 4 of us had already accepted we got our ass kicked. We were ready to surrender. But varus refused despite being 0/4 because "i got statik shiv and about to change the game" and refused to surrender. Not only did it NOT change the game. Varus went 1/6 and Still refused surrender votes because he thought he was gonna flip like a switch and solo carry us to victory even though we were losing towers left and right.

So all he did was make everyone miserable because he was too proud to surrender, make everyone stressed out because he was busy patting himself on the back. And stretch out a game everyone agreed was over because he thought "I'm Too good. I got statik shiv now I can 1-shot everyone"

EL HAMSTERO1 votes

some people vote no to punish their team for being bad. ive heard them admit thats what they are doing

i wish it was a 3-2 vote to surrender in normals at least. there are so many trolls and if most of the team wants out then let them go.

HavokDash2 votes

Oh yeah, I have had that alot. Where they will sit there and accuse their team of "inting" when they were just getting outplayed left and right. but these players would sit there and say "I am going to vote no. YOU Fed so you can sit there and suffer for what you did"

Lord of Math1 votes

I remember I was Ryze and I was snowballing like mad, but I told my team that we should surrender (we were not grouping to end and nobody wanted to stop split pushing or help me with objectives ten minutes in) as the other four were early game champions and the enemy team had a Nasus Kayle DrMundo they said "don't worry, you will solo carry."

HavokDash1 votes

Yeah alot of matches are lost because teammates get a few kills under their belt and decide they are "too good" for the team. They will run off solo and chase kills because "Helping you means less kills for me". I have lost count people will go into a teamfight, and then immediately start calling "KS" when anyone other than THEM gets a kill. So alot of players just run solo.

And yeah I take alot into consideration, as I stated in another response. Is the team grouping and working together? Is the team split pushing or going for objectives? How many kills do we have vs the enemy? how many OBJECTIVES do we have vs the enemy? is the team trying to end or just running after cosmetic kills (as In kills that dont actually HELP the team end the match, but just make the players kda look pretty)

The one thing that irritates me is when we are winning, we have a chance to end, and someone pulls one of these: "Dont end yet, I want a Penta/Ace/baron/etc" and then they end up giving the enemy the time needed to make a comeback and flip the tables because rather than ending the match, they wanted to showboat and humiliate the enemy team.

Mordius1 votes

Not to mention giving up is a reportable offense. It is considered griefing

HavokDash1 votes

So not allowed to actually concede that you played good, they played better. So I am sure you will be telling Riot to remove the Surrender function in the next patch? Get that petition going. Because according to you, there is no difference between giving up entirely and respectfully conceding that the better team won.

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