I honestly think veigar has a toxic play style.

YoungFarmer·Sep 29, 2016·1 votes·907 views

Both veigar and syndra have a similar style in the whole single target nuke complex. But syndra feels so much more fair to lane against. all of her abilities are not to hard to dodge, where as veigar on the other hand has a stun that lasts a long time that is around half the size of a lanes width, has a very low visability W, a fast moving q that goes through another champion or minion. Syndra requires using abilities correctly to maximize her ultimate damage, where as veigar kind of just hits R when ur half hp and you die. TL/DR fuck veigar, not saying hes op. But hes possibly my least favourite champion to lane against.

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EmojaySep 29, 20162 votes

I mian Veigar, and my skills are really good with him. But seriously... If you are AP, and Veigar has his moves up, and a decent amount of AP, just Hourglass. Seriously, am I the ONLY one who knows how to dodge this guy? Without his stun, he can do little to you. Just try not to let him poke you, and try to bully him away from CS.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 29, 20163 votes

and no one gets item 3102 item 3111 to negate his stun

EmojaySep 29, 20161 votes

Seems like common sense... He's not THAT HARD TO COUNTER PEOPLE! CALM DOWN

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 29, 20162 votes

if you havent noticed on the boards that people dont want to have to counter play, counter build or counter pick they think the can blindly pick champs and build generic full damage builds smash face on key board and win... and anything to make them do different is either toxic, broken or op

SirPacifistaOct 2, 20161 votes

Yes, this pretty much sums up the player base.

Items to counter a champion? THATS UNFAIR AND BAD GAMEPLAY

Counterpicking ? FUCK THAT, WHAT IS COUNTERPICKING? REMOVE THAT!!!

Wait you can counter Zeds ult with item 3139 ? REMOVE ZEDS ULT ALONE FROM THAT!!! I LOVE ZED!!!

Jep, the most lol player are probably retarded, like the ones who remade Veigar a year ago (where he had a winrate of 42% for 9 Month).

Handy Sandy Sep 29, 20161 votes

With Syndra you can easily position yourself while laning so she can't just E and then stun you because you didn't see a random sphere. Like veigar, she's also incredibly weak when her stun is down.

With Veigar, without his W he can't really kill you, and it's not like he can land it if you aren't stunned. Try moving around inside his E so he isn't able to land it when it's done just kill him since he relies on it a lot, turn your sound up or pay more attention to dodge his w.. anyway. Stay in the middle of your minions if you can, so he can't Q you because the minions will block it and then follow up with a W + ult to kill you.

YoungFarmerSep 29, 20161 votes

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With Syndra you can easily position yourself while laning so she can't just E and then stun you because you didn't see a random sphere. Like veigar, she's also incredibly weak when her stun is down.

With Veigar, without his W he can't really kill you, and it's not like he can land it if you aren't stunned. Try moving around inside his E so he isn't able to land it when it's done just kill him since he relies on it a lot, turn your sound up or pay more attention to dodge his w.. anyway. Stay in the middle of your minions if you can, so he can't Q you because the minions will block it and then follow up with a W + ult to kill you.

Its more his E, W in tfs which is the problem. His E is only a stun on the outter rim obviously, but the inside basically means youre fucked also if ur stuck in it.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 29, 20163 votes

hmm i mean sure if you BUILD ZERO MR and HP and FEED HIM and let the game go pass 30 mins

Handy Sandy Sep 29, 20161 votes

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Its more his E, W in tfs which is the problem. His E is only a stun on the outter rim obviously, but the inside basically means youre fucked also if ur stuck in it.

His ult does most of the work when killing someone, so landing all of his skillshots is crucial. He must hit both his w and his q. It's way harder for him to W you if you aren't stunned inside of his E, you aren't really going to die if he surrounds you but isn't able to hit all of his abilities on you.

SirPacifistaOct 2, 20161 votes

Its more his E, W in tfs which is the problem. His E is only a stun on the outter rim obviously, but the inside basically means youre fucked also if ur stuck in it.

Why should you have a problem with that? His meteor can only hit people who are waaay to bad to dodge anything (if you cant dodge the meteor you must be retarded) So he can only q + r you, at most but then he is also in rnage for your attacks. And if he would kill you with q +r just flash away. He can be easily counterplayed, counterbuild and counterpicked in this Meta, he is made so that even dumb bronze 5 people have a chance against him. Just choose one of the above methods...

CroissSep 29, 20161 votes

Press R to win.

Garlic ButterOct 22, 20161 votes

Except on 3s map, Syndra can stun a width of a little more than entire lane (the stun lasts about as long as veigar stun vs tenacity and is much harder to dodge if you can't BLINK (so shaco and kass can easily dodge both anyway)), Syndra's Ult technically does more damage with set up and she is far less squishy than veigar (his base stats are extremely low).

Aditionally syndra ult is refunded on a champ becoming untargetable WHILE still dealing some damage with it, Veigar ult goes on full cd if FiZZ troll poles or yii alpha strikes at the right time No damage.