Let's talk about ganks..

Ternt··8 votes·620 views

Now, I play Jungle quite frequently, and from time to time at the end of a game where my laner went x/1x, I hear "No ganks". Now lets be clear here, a gank is when I consciously make an effort to get you ahead in lane by using smart pings to show you I am on my way. When I go into your lane to gank, I am fully expecting you to acknowledge the fact that I've pinged it and typed that I was coming. When you don't go in when I gank, that's on you. When I gank and you don't deal any damage whatsoever and still manage to die even with me completely using everything I have, that's on you. Those are considered ganks; Just because when their jungler said he was going in, your laner actually paid attention and went in too and what do you know, they got a kill. A gank is only successful when you actually attempt to aid the situation. When you do shit all when I am in your lane, that's on YOU and nobody else. There's only 1 situation where I may have never ganked, and that would be when you lost the game for yourself or you die multiple times before even my first clear. Time and time again I have (usually mid laners) complain about no ganks, even though I frequently gank mid. The fact they didn't get a kill apparently means the gank didn't happen. If you die 1v1, then get ganked because you're extended, BUY WARDS. If you want to play aggressive, give yourself the opportunity to actually make it out alive if the jungler is in the bush. Just stop blaming the jungler for your negligence.

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Zmuecat4 votes

On the flip side, please don't go "Why didn't you go in" if I'm both out of mana and low on HP. You yourself may not do this, but I've seen it done plenty often enough to warrant saying something.

Proceed with your thread as planned otherwise.

Ternt1 votes

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On the flip side, please don't go "Why didn't you go in" if I'm both out of mana and low on HP. You yourself may not do this, but I've seen it done plenty often enough to warrant saying something.

Proceed with your thread as planned otherwise.

This is something that frustrates me when I lose jungle to one of the new Sated junglers. They lack the knowledge of playing the position past - Gank -> Farm. There's a lot of mechanics behind being good at jungling than just how is seems on the surface. I'm not amazing or the greatest, but this is my first season playing (I started in ranked at the end of S4 so I have some ranked shown there), but I have worked hard to understand my role for the team and what to prioritize when behind, etc. This is stuff the new Sated jungler's do not understand because they are only playing jungle because of huge KDA possibilities. I can assure you I prefer a 5/2/20 score over a 20/2/5 score, because if I die and am the only person fed, we lose. If you check my op.gg, you will see most my high KDA is because of 10+ assist per game, which I am very happy with. Thanks for the reply!

Zmuecat1 votes

Jungle's tricky. I've played since beta and I've done it off and on and I still don't think I can get it right. Regardless of if you play a farm or a gank jungler, you still have to respond to how the map is working in that original game, which I think is where most of the problems come with junglers can stem from. Some games, in my experience, flow very well (even with some failures on my teams part), I can be where I'm needed when I'm needed. Some games can be horrible, like all lanes suddenly being a shit gank target when you just cleared the jungle, and as soon as you back there's an opening.

The role, to me, is very fluid and responsive. There's a lot to keep track of, almost too much for most soloQ junglers.

Ternt1 votes

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Jungle's tricky. I've played since beta and I've done it off and on and I still don't think I can get it right. Regardless of if you play a farm or a gank jungler, you still have to respond to how the map is working in that original game, which I think is where most of the problems come with junglers can stem from. Some games, in my experience, flow very well (even with some failures on my teams part), I can be where I'm needed when I'm needed. Some games can be horrible, like all lanes suddenly being a shit gank target when you just cleared the jungle, and as soon as you back there's an opening.

The role, to me, is very fluid and responsive. There's a lot to keep track of, almost too much for most soloQ junglers.

Yeh, that's why I chose jungle. There's a lot of responsibility that I was tired of putting on the shoulders of people who would not do well. Also, most the champions I really liked playing when I started were junglers. I like how busy the jungle role is, but sometimes it can be overwhelming when all lanes are losing 1v1's and people refuse to spend 75g on a ward to potentially save their lives. A jungler is a gloried LoL mom.

Renascent1 votes

Can't forget junglers who gank expecting you to somehow walk around a small platoon of minions after all your own minions died off.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

And then there's me, maining Amumu, giving no ganks, and still somehow getting out of laning fed.

Stargleam1 votes

Those people are the worst. A few games ago i had a riven flame me for not ganking, baring in mind i had spent over 5 minutes going top to help her. I was down on farm and creeps. But instead of letting me be, no no no, she comes and takes jungle camps because "useless jungle no gank so i'm taking the camps"

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