Please, don't be that kind of player <_<
Dellevis16 votesI'm a main support, and I see people complaining about wards, when they don't even upgrade their own trinket.
But to another matter, there is absolutely no reason, ever, not to buy a sightstone, so if you don't buy a sightstone, you're just wasting cash on wards.
Unlimited wards for 400 gold.... You will not be able to light up the map through a whole game for that kind of money without a sightstone.
So you kind of are wasting your teams gold, and you SHOULD buy a sightstone.
My point, he was rude, but you need to buy a sightstone....
Tehlawlfirm4 votesThat's not entirely true, Depends on the elo or rank you are playing. In bronze you can ward all day and people still get ganked and caught out so buying sight stone is a waste slot item especially if you plan on carrying your team later with annie support.
I urgot about it1 votesThat's not entirely true, Depends on the elo or rank you are playing. In bronze you can ward all day and people still get ganked and caught out so buying sight stone is a waste slot item especially if you plan on carrying your team later with annie support.
True, wards mean nothing without map awareness
SaltyToplaneGoat5 votes800 gold actually. Also, while this has its uses on the ever dominant tank supports, as a mage I'd prefer to put this cash into something that helps me in lane: a chalice for example.
aítch3 voteschalice...... chalice....... CHALICE?????????? ZEKES EXISTS USE IT FFS IM DONE NOPE NOPE YOU BADDIE REPORT GG IM AFK BYE (assuming you picked 
or 
)
SaltyToplaneGoat2 votesJudging by my adc's performance buying a zekes was too much of a gamble for me... I'd rather have it safe when being in a lane with someone who I don't know and who also seems a bit insecure in their role.
aítch2 votesso what I am getting is that you trust your adc to ward but not perform at a decent level to move so you get a dfg proc to Nuke the other team............. I don't..... I am sorry but... HYPOCRITICAL MUCH!?!?
SaltyToplaneGoat1 votesThere is a difference in putting a ward down and reacting properly to a dangerous combat scenario.
In gold most people know the basics of warding - at least when you remind them every now and then.
But they still can make horrific mistakes that can cost fights.
aítch1 votesWait I thought you were silver 5-bronze 5 ish range you should never build full ap support ever.. EVER. Especially gold where everyone knows what they are doing. Unless ylou go like zekes abyssal rylais and banner becuase of auras and defense and the fact that it gives support ap things. BUT ATHENES IS ACTUAL SHIT. Like SHIT. Because you give NOTHING to your team. Abyssal helps the team for the team. You do not just blatently do what you want in ranked like that. The guy probably was just on tilt. It happens. I mean yeah he should've bought wards but you cannot argue that you did ANY better. However now that I think about it more if you are like the ONLY AP dmg on your team and you are 5-0 at like 10 min well you better carry with that ludens. :D
Daen1 votesThere is basically no situation in which a support should not have a Sightstone. It is by far the most efficient vision item in the game, and since vision is one of the support role's main priorities it's about as mandatory as boots.
BYfbwTiHAh6 votesHe's right though, if your a support and you dont know that sightstone is a must item you should go back to normals.
IcyPepper2 votesEh, sightstone is a convenience item for supports due to their lower gold income. If you're in normals (ranked stresses more on vision control), you can get away with buying wards individually and upgrading your trinket. Which OP did. Which the complainer did not.
And he's not right. The support as well as the ADC provided appropriate vision for the team, whereas he did not. Hence the irony, and this post.
Photos of Ghosts6 votesWell a Sightstone is needed to get a red trinket and not wasting a slot
SaltyToplaneGoat1 votesWe already had two who picked a red trinket, so another one would have bee somewhat unecessary.
KatCraft5 votesGonna ask the question why you didn't get the sightstone? Either you were being really inefficient with your gold and buying a ton of wards instead of the sightstone, or you just weren't warding as much as you think you were.
SaltyToplaneGoat4 votesWas playing a mage support, so I didn't really have much use for the stat - 800g is much for a support after all.
Early I just got wards manually and asked my adc to get a few too and we got our lane covered until we both could upgrade the trinket. After that I constantly had three active wards and a pink out. No need to buy sightstone then...
ImNLuvWitATeemo2 votesnow your team doesn't have a sweeper
Malix Farwin1 votesnow your team doesn't have a sweeper
if the enemy isnt warding, do they need one?
aítch2 voteshow do you know they aren't warding... Sweeper is a gold income item DO YOU NOT SEE DA WERF?!?!?
what you deserve2 votesSweeper is a gold income item? Where are you getting that?
aítch1 votesif you buy sweeper you clear wards. WHEN YOU CLEAR A WARD WHAT DOES THAT GIVE YOU???
what you deserve1 votesWhat, like, ten gold? On an item with such a long cooldown? Not seeing the worth.
aítch1 votesI think this video describes you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBL0RUJx7-I
SaltyToplaneGoat3 votesI should have mentioned that our jungler and our mid had both picked sweeper at this point. More than two seems like a waste to me.
Merkel x Tsipras4 votesyou play support with no wardstone
Yeah dont be that kind of player...
Nobody likes all this "mage support" who try to "carry" the game by trying to build mage item and now they are not mages or support they just something in the half which is pretty much useless....
I am pretty sure bot lane got ganked 100 times and you would all like "omg dont tell me to buy wards is not my job"
Yeah i can see what kind of player you are..
Malix Farwin1 votes[{quoted}](name=19902013RIP Kira,realm=EUNE,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=uBoEBv93,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-10-13T12:47:39.404+0000)
you play support with no wardstone
Yeah dont be that kind of player...
Nobody likes all this "mage support" who try to "carry" the game by trying to build mage item and now they are not mages or support they just something in the half which is pretty much useless....
I am pretty sure bot lane got ganked 100 times and you would all like "omg dont tell me to buy wards is not my job"
Yeah i can see what kind of player you are..
except for the guys who get carried by them. Not buying a sighstone at best will net you a loss at sweepers in which cast again it depends on your elo. if you know the enemy team isnt warding you can provide just as much vision with an upgraded trinket. This isn't season 4. The main appeal of a sightstone now is so that you CAN get a sweepers.
Merkel x Tsipras2 votesand that why you are silver lol
Malix Farwin1 votes[{quoted}](name=19902013RIP Kira,realm=EUNE,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=uBoEBv93,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2015-10-13T14:03:37.921+0000)
and that why you are silver lol
nice counter argument, how about checking out how many ranked games ive played. Only further proves my point that you do not know how bronze/silver games are like. P.S.: if you actually have seen my match history as support you know i but SS + Sweepers and lose everytime.
I urgot about it1 votes[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=uBoEBv93,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-13T14:55:59.396+0000)
nice counter argument, how about checking out how many ranked games ive played. Only further proves my point that you do not know how bronze/silver games are like. P.S.: if you actually have seen my match history as support you know i but SS + Sweepers and lose everytime.
Then if you lose every time, you're doing something wrong
NazZomLord3 votesSightstone is one of the first items you get as a support, usually a first back or second back item (its depennds if you are doing really well and you want to holdoff sightstone to get a sup item upgrade) but i usually have a build path similiar to this on 
oor most utility supports (I build Braum slightly different but this is just a general build)
or
(depends on style)
First back
+
+
(
if you are doing great)
Second: upgrade your support item and get mobis, after you have mobis and sightstone dont be afraid to deep ward and get your own jungle full of sight.
Now next is the hardest part, its the items that you really need to build accordingly. The usual items are
<---Armor, MR, AP.
Chalice for Mana and MR, Glacial for Armor CDR and mana, Codex for CDR and AP. These 3 items are the base for almost ever good support item that supports should be building.
For the next item i HIGHLY suggest
<----This is a great item that can be built into a good defense support item
Or a split push item that allows you to put a squeeze on a lane 
One of my personal favorite items for late game will always be 
It gives defense, a split push item to pop in a lane and leave, as well as a little MS boost when near turrets (great for avoiding pulls, abilities or even tower diving)
Clown Apocalypse2 votesIt's been my experience that people who don't care enough to buy a SS rarely ward enough for it to be meaningful with their upgraded trinkets. I've been that "kind of player" you refer to where a support built full AP and I told her to buy SS...I upgraded my trinket at level 9, and 30 minutes into the game after finishing a deathcap she rushed, (albeit slowly since she also didn't buy a support item so her gold was limited to stolen kills and splitpushing when she should have been supporting), finally upgrades her trinket. After the loss I check her ward count. 6. Even after the team bringing it to her attention she REFUSED to ward. How do you drop your trinket 6 times in a 40-45 minute game? Guess how many dragons we got that game? Not more than 1.
I might only be bronze.....but I've noticed people like to copy everything the pro's do except warding. LOL. They run 2 sightstones on LCS teams usually yet regular supports are offended to even buy 1. TBH I think supports like that need to just get over the fact they didn't get mid and actually support. You can build 4 deathcaps if you want after you get get a SS and boots and I wont even question you. But... if you have a 
in your inv and not a , and you've been ganked successfully more than once, or they've gotten more than one uncontested dragon, I secretly hate you. You're the worst kind of support. When you factor in the time difference in trinket wards and SS wards, if you both drop 20 wards, the support with the SS had vision up almost twice as long as the support with the trinket. If the jungler never took smite and every time you tried to dragon or baron it got stolen, you'd blame the jungler for not taking smite, even if you didn't say it out loud. Buy the SS. You won't regret it. If you lose with the SS you were going to lose anyways.
PDE5 Inhibitors2 votesTo be fair, not buying a sightstone on support is noob, regardless of how the other player is playing.
Malix Farwin1 votesIt really depends, if you are in bronze for example, most people are not warding at all so the red trinket feels kinda of lackluster since you aren't really clearing anything and since you will most likely need to carry your games you will most likely want to buy wards till high enough to upgrade trinket and play a mage supp. Other then that SS and sweepers is staple. However more on to the point, i feel you have no right to get on the supports case about warding if you yourself do not have 2-3 wards on the map. Warding is EVERYONE'S job. I will say this again, EVERYONE'S JOB. It makes me cringe when i hear support needs to ward when they have been and the person crying hasn't.
TeaReckz1 votesIt's k, I got carried yesterday by a Singed top that never even got a trinket ;(
Ariel the Cruel1 votes
Not entirely sure how you expect me to ward anything. . .
Jason the other1 votesPro tip: get into gold
SaltyToplaneGoat1 votesPlot Twist: I am in gold.
Damagefox1 votesI had a game like that was hilarious...and I was in mid lane (I normally support)
Top Lane: "Stupid shrooms" (Teemo on enemy team) Me: Buy Pinks for teemo's shrooms Top lane: I am Not Buying 20 pinks just for teemo Me: You can Upgrade your free yellow trinket into a pink Top lane: 250g, Not free.
Long story short, team complained about teemo's shrooms. Not willing to buy wards or upgrade trinkets because they are "too expensive" (apparently 250g is too expensive)
another irritating point is STOP saying it is ONLY support's job to help ward the map. I (as a support can only do so much. You want more vision, Get off your ass and help provide it, or stop complaining about how the support isnt warding enough.