LeaverBuster's too Harsh

Wild Wes··1 votes·1,129 views

I recently left a game (because my computer shuts off at 9:00) and because of that I got this thing called the LeaverBuster. I see how in a PvP ranked match this can seem fair (even though I was doing a easy bot battle), but you're not able to do ANYTHING while you wait! Honestly, this would be a great time to redo my Masteries. And the thing is, on weekdays I get home from school at 5:00. That leaves me about 4 games to play. So why make me wait SO much longer? On average, it takes about 10-20 minutes to actually spawn into the game. So what happens when game goes on to be an hour long and it took 10 minutes to start the game? And to repeat what I said before, my computer shuts off at 9:00, not I have to be off at 9:00. My computer shuts off at 9:00 right on the dot! So if a game goes until 9:03 what am I supposed to do? Honestly, I think you should at least let players able to do other stuff while waiting.

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Vistha Kai3 votes

Child, you think this is harsh?

Previous Leaverbuster was handing out 7 days bans, not just measly "feel lika a challenger" 5-20 minute queues.

Wild Wes1 votes

Don't call me a child. Since I'm 14 I have the social rights to play this game. The fact that you're an adult and you're criticizing me is pretty pathetic, seeing as children make video games go round (even though LoL has a lot of adults).

Vistha Kai2 votes

That was this kind of "child" a priest would use.

If I were to criticize you I'd use word "kid", because it seems to be a common insult in this game... for some unfathomable reason.

Wild Wes1 votes

You calling me child as in you're superior to me. That is an insult.

Randomonium3 votes

But you are a child. If you were an adult your computer wouldn't shut off automatically at 9.

Furthermore, you have no "right" to play this game. If your parents said you weren't allowed to play then you couldn't report them to child protective services. Additionally, Riot could easily ban you for being afk too often and you could not do anything about it.

Children do not make video games go around. Money makes video games go around and a guarantee you adults spend way more on this video game than kids. This is why you see Riot coming out with more adult champions and lore to appeal to their adult player base.

How does it take you 10 minutes to get into a game? My computer is like 8 years old and it takes me a couple minutes. Are you still on dial up or something because a 10 minute load time is not normal at all. Furthermore, if you do have a 10 minute load time please never play pvp or you will get reported for being afk for the first 10 minutes of the game.

If you are not 100% sure you can finish a game you shouldn't start it. If you start a game at 8:30 and the game goes longer than 30 minutes I have no remorse for you if you get a leave buster. Some games can take an hour to complete. If you don't have an hour of time to devote to the game then don't play.

Part of becoming an adult is learning to properly manage your time, something that you are obviously still struggling with.

Wild Wes1 votes

Thank you, for wasting my time with all your nonsense.

Randomonium2 votes

And thank you for showing that you are a spoiled, immature brat. If you make a post like this you should be ready to debate your point of view, not disrespect anyone who disagrees with you.

Keep doing what you're doing and you'll get banned for going afk too often. Don't come crying to the boards when it happens because plenty of people here wasted their time trying to help you and you wouldn't listen.

Wild Wes1 votes

Spoiled? If I was spoiled I wouldn't give a crap about the LeaverBuster because I could just get a new account and use real life money to buy all the Champions I own now. You're saying I have a crap computer even though your's is 8 years old. Well you know what? Some other people have crap computers which don't load for days. You obviously are an adult who thinks he's superior to others.

Randomonium2 votes

I'll let you in on a little life secret, people more often than not will treat you how you act. If you act immature or irreverent, like you did in this post, people will treat you like a child. If you act mature or insightful, people will treat you like an adult. I've had tons of discussions with teans and if they act like adults I'll treat them like an adult.

The reason why your original post is immature and childish is because you do not use any critical thinking skills to solve your problem, you just whine and complain.

Part of being an adult is identifying problems in your life and using critical thinking to determine the root cause of those problems. If you don't do that then you'll never be able to actually solve your problems because you won't know why they are happening.

For example, your problem is that you are getting punished by the leavebuster system. The root cause of your problem is not the leavebuster system. The leavebuster system protects the vast majority of the league population from those seeking to ruin games for other people. Furthermore, the leavebuster system is clearly defined and explained to the terms of use you agreed to when you decided to play this game. If you don't agree to the leavebuster system you should have never clicked "I agree."

The real root cause of your problem is that you do not have a computer and/or Internet speed fast enough to play League. This is further compounded by the fact that for whatever reason your parents don't think you can manage your time on the computer and so they have implemented an automatic shutdown on your computer.

Here's what a mature version of your post would look like:

"Hey guys, I really enjoy playing league but my computer/Internet speed is too slow to play it. It frequently takes around 10 minutes for the game to load which has resulted in me getting punished by the leavebuster system when I wasn't intentionally afking. I've spend a lot of time researching how I can improve my Internet and computer speed but nothing has worked so far. I asked my parents if they would be willing to upgrade my computer or the Internet but they said they didn't want to spend the money. How can I convince my parents to upgrade our Internet or my computer?

Additionally, my parents have set a timer on my computer that automatically shuts it down exactly at 9 pm no matter what I'm doing at the time. A couple of times I have lost track of time and been playing a game of league when 9 pm hits, causing me to disconnect from the game because my computer automatically shuts down. This has resulted in me also getting punished by the leavebuster system. How can I convince my parents to remove the automatic shutdown from my computer or at the very least convince them to push it back to 9:30 or 10?"

Do you see the difference between your post and mine? Your post just whines and complains, blaming Riot for things that aren't their fault. My post presents a problem, tells what I've done to try and solve the problem, and clearly articulates what help I am looking for.

If you had written a post like that you would have gotten a couple people who trolled you but you would have also gotten people like me who would have given you useful advice.

If you had written a post like that I would have told you that parents respond positively when you take on more responsibility and show them that you are growing up and becoming more mature. I would have encouraged you to try and make a deal with your parents where you do something extra for them (more chores, better grades, learn an instrument, etc) in exchange for faster Internet or a computer upgrade or a later shutdown time on your computer. I would have also encouraged you to find easy jobs that can net you some cash on the weekends and summer. If you saved up you could buy a brand new computer within a year.

There's tons of stuff you could do to change your situation if you are willing to work at it. But no, you'd rather be an angsty teen who thinks everyone looks down on him. You'd rather blame others for your problems rather than accept responsibility and do something about it. So with that I'm done with this thread because I know that you lack the motivation or the resolve to take my advice and do what it necessary to change your situation (but I would be quite pleased if you proved me wrong.)

Good luck. I hope these life lessons resonate with you sooner rather than later.

Wild Wes1 votes

Sorry, but I don't have time to read all the complaining about my post. If you were actually here to help, you would have helped. I said why I thought the LeaverBuster was too hash. You said that my statement is false and therefore your statement is true. Too bad you'll be stuck insulting people on the forums for the rest of your life.

3ofGot40ve2 votes

Lol I'm reading this now and its making me laugh. if trellerus actually cared about his punishment he would have read this. So I guess he doenst care.

BadmoonBC2 votes

Your young it sounds like since I'm guessing your parents have set this alarm clock for your computer Here's the deal, even though you might not see this yet, it's your responsibility to know that you shouldn't start a game after 7:45ish. If your computer shuts down at 9, even in a co-op vs AI game, whenever you leave, your making other people's game ruined and taking a much longer time to finish(in the case of a bot game) So, do yourself the favor and just understand not to push your game time to that limit

BakedLotion1 votes

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Your young it sounds like since I'm guessing your parents have set this alarm clock for your computer Here's the deal, even though you might not see this yet, it's your responsibility to know that you shouldn't start a game after 7:45ish. If your computer shuts down at 9, even in a co-op vs AI game, whenever you leave, your making other people's game ruined and taking a much longer time to finish(in the case of a bot game) So, do yourself the favor and just understand not to push your game time to that limit

How do you ruin bot games o.o Every single bot game i go into, anyone can 1v5 and would much rather prefer to have it that way. LOL

Wild Wes1 votes

Exactly. Sure if it's a PvP then people would be upset, but for a bot battle people love having others AFK.

Wild Wes1 votes

Yes, my parents did set it. So since I shouldn't start a game after 8:00 (which is more logical) that's 3 games I get to play a day. There shouldn't be that sort of punishment if your game goes on for 1 extra minute.

TeemoJenkins1 votes

Computer shuts off at 9:00pm. DO NOT queue after 8:00pm as the game can go long. 20 minute leaver penalty means you've more than just this one game.

Wild Wes1 votes

Yes, that is true. Sometimes you play an easy bot battle and there's really good players who finish in 13 minutes. Sometimes you play and it takes 40 minutes because everyone else on your team is below level 5. This has happened multiple times. I would be happy if I could just make Masteries and Item Sets during the time I wait. Or make it 10 minutes, because 140 minutes is way too much.

Daen1 votes

So if a game goes until 9:03 what am I supposed to do?

Don't start any games later than 7:30 PM.


Bottom line, it's not up to LeaverBuster to determine why a particular person is leaving; the system sees a leave and calculates it as such, and the expectation is that LPQ is an incentive to encourage people to fix or change whatever is causing the conflict.

Wild Wes1 votes

I shouldn't be punished for 140 minutes because I was 3 minutes late.

Kazaashi1 votes

I would say that you don't start a normal game after 8 o' clock or an ARAM after 8:30. That way you can ensure you are done by 9.

Wild Wes1 votes

Sure I could play a easy bot battle at 8:30... But then again, I once played an easy bot battle that lasted 40 minutes (was playing with a friend who just started and there were a bunch of noobs and honestly we were close to losing). You never know how long a game will last. A PvP could last from 20 minutes to an hour.

61939590DEL11 votes

BIG Question WHY does you computer shutdown @ 9pm in the first place. My Advice buy a new 1.

Wild Wes1 votes

For Christmas my mother bought me a computer. My mother programmed it (not from scratch but with Windows 8) to shut off at 9:00. I can't buy a computer and I wouldn't because this computer is a pretty good one.

SoundChaosDebug2 votes

Can't you just change it so it doesn't close at 9?

Wild Wes1 votes

I previously have... I got grounded and she set it back up...

SoundChaosDebug1 votes

Your situation sucks, don't play if you know it will close.

Wild Wes1 votes

Your comment gives no help to my situation whatsoever. It's been appreciated.

61939590DEL11 votes

As simple as that, but my guess he is too young to know about computers

Wild Wes1 votes

I'm in an advanced study for math and science at my school. I previously got into my mother's email so I could change the settings on my computer, but she found out and she grounded me. I wish I could do it again, but she'd know it'd be me.

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