Oh How Fickle the League Community is...

DeloricVI·11/5/2015, 6:05:05 AM·2 votes·361 views

So, recently I came across this video on YouTube, where I stepped away from it thinking... "Man, doesn't this perfectly exemplify a problem I have with this community?"

The video in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J7F5zy6aKo

Now, I want to preface this with a warning that I don't want you to think that I have something against RedMercy. I don't care about his opinion, he is entitled to his opinion, but what I want to highlight is a problem that I noticed on a larger scale in the community. Also, spoiler warning: I'm going to be spoiling the number 1 spot on the list, so if you would like to know what the list contains, watch the video first.

That being said, let's begin the discussion.

Why does everyone just follow what pros do? I mean, we've seen so many examples of this... Janna comes to mind, but most recently, it's Veigar. I honestly don't get how many people can blindly pass him up as a trash pick after his rework, but praise him for being an amazing champion after he appears in the LCS. I used to think that this was more of a lower-elo problem, but apparently not. He didn't really change that much between the two events anyways, other than some well-deserved tweaks. He's at the top of this list, and I'm sure he's not far from the top of many others. Why? Has he always been hidden OP? Or are people excited over nothing?

I'd argue a little of both. Let's explore his abilities, shall we?

Passive: Ok, admittedly, everyone still thinks it's a throwaway passive, although, now, people are more forgiving of it because Veigar is "OP" now, and it synergizes with Athene's/Chalice of Harmony, which has ALWAYS been true.

Q: His q really came under fire when they changed it to a skill shot, lamenting how all reworks are eliminating single-target abilities, insert obligatory Ryze rework complaints here... overall, everyone hated this change, even after the range was buffed. They didn't give a shit about this skill between Veigar's rework and his rise to fame in the LCS. Oh, after that, everyone goes "OOOOOH I CAN USE THIS TO FARM FASTER!" Yeah, something I saw when the rework was released.

W: People still hate on this skill, but a lot less often since his use in the LCS, and sometimes people point out how it can be used to punish out of position players, or zoning champions out. I still think this skill is good, but you have to be really skilled to use it effectively.

E: This skill got the most shit of them all after the rework. People said that the changes to this skill destroyed Veigar, and he'd never be a thing without his instant-cast stun. Now, people are praising it as one of the best cc abilities in the game!? The fuck, man? This one is more specific to the video, but I have no doubts that someone else has said it since the LCS this year. Like I said, this is not to attack RedMercy, but I can't help that this particular statement gets under my skin. With the delay on it, I know it's not as good as it had been, but people flipped from saying it's garbage, to saying it's the best thing since sliced bread, literally overnight! Yeah, OK.

R: People have been complaining about this since Veigar was released. No surprise there, because it inherently punishes mages for building glass cannon, which is the norm, and scales pretty hard either way. It's one of Veigar's selling points, and hasn't changed much at all. People just use it as more evidence to say "This champion is OP."

I personally hate when the community does this. I mean, there are bad champions, that no one plays for a reason. Urgot was obscure for the longest time for a reason; he was nerfed into the ground and afterward so many other champions do his job, but better. He has a unique gimmick, but it's not worth it. The old Sion was horrible; his scalings were all over the place, no really good build existed for him, and, again he had one unique thing about him, but that was it. Other than mixing your opponent up by surprising them with a build they weren't expecting, he didn't have much to him that would make him more viable than someone else. That's why he got a rework.

But Veigar? He's never really lost power. Admittedly, when his rework was hot out the PBE, his range needed a small buff, but other than that, he was golden. Now, he gets banned all the time when I try to use him, or people just jump on him because he's Flavor of the Month, despite the fact that he's still going to be a good mid laner for a while, and will fade into obscurity again for no reason. What's worse is that I got flamed for picking Veigar before the LCS, and sometimes it became a self-fulfilling prophecy that I would lose lane. Jungler thinks Veigar is trash, I get camped, he never counter ganks, mid lane lost, asshole jungler thinks he was proven right.

Ok, so it got a little more ranty than I figured, but what do you guys think? Does this get on your nerves too? Have you had a main champion that you liked to play that became pretty much ruined by their own surge of popularity? Or do you all think I'm just some raving lunatic who's over-exaggerating?

4 Comments

Void Nargacuga11/5/2015, 6:42:51 AM2 votes

I actually ENJOY playing Veigar due to his personality and that he was a late game AP HYPER carry. He was my first champion I got with IP and the first champion I got a skin for: his Final Boss skin due to how cool it was, AND for all those hilarious reference quotes of his in that skin. I got him around patch 5.6ish and honestly (i even joined League around the same time) I just had fun with him. Still getting use to timing those Q last hits. but I'm getting better each game.

The most fun I had was in Team Builder in bot lane... As the carry with Thresh as my support. We kinda became unstoppable! But I had fun! Of course I have found some champions I LOATH (or will loath) laning against, not because they are "OP" or something, but because of their kits. The 2 I dread so far: Katarina (shunpo to get out of his Event Horizon), and Talon (cutthroat for same reasons as Kat really). The both have a way to get out of Event Horizon. Not saying I would ban them. But they just annoy me for the reasons mentioned.

The only thing I hated about Veigar before he got the Assist AP gain buff was that I had to KS my allies to get AP gains from kills which I thought was unhealthy for a mage like Veigar, but it kinda made sense I guess? Still glad I don't have to be a douche and KS my allies now though!

Yeah, something becomes FotM like Veigar and it can kinda suck. Especially when they only play them because of stuff like LCS (not hating on LCS though), and you end up cringing as they keep missing their skill shots. But they won't take your advice which makes it worse. But when you find someone that picked them up because they just looked fun. They are WAY more willing to listen to advice then which I like!

Leadpaintchips11/5/2015, 2:33:38 PM1 votes

I've had champs that pretty much died because they wern't FotM, and got raged at hard for even considering them (Mundo and Olaf, pretty much killed my playing this game exclusively because of the sheer rage I faced when I was playing them.)

There's a part of me that actually dislikes how League has LCS, mainly because if you're not one of the sheeples and copy/paste Champs/builds, you get blamed for EVERYTHING.