@Riot Apparently since it's not gameplay I want to know why my LP dropped severely

LegacyDAP··2 votes·470 views

Why did I go from winning 20 LP a game, to 15 LP per win, but losing 20 LP now instead of my usual 15 with things being the same as before?

I read the article about matchmaking and nothing adds up to why this severe of change happened.

13 Comments

Kanye Nord2 votes

Why did my LP drop so sivirly Kappa

Spicy Rice1 votes

that pun, gave me eBOLA Rengar

Kanye Nord1 votes

I'm afraid you have a sivir Sivir case of ebola Rengar

Horse Grenades1 votes

Get your win% higher above 50 and you will begin getting more lp for wins and less for losses.

LegacyDAP1 votes

I do.

EL HAMSTERO1 votes

LP gain / loss is because of the hidden matchmaking rating. if your matchmaking rating is lower than your rank that will happen. to raise your mmr you just need to win more than 50% of your games for a while.

Quil Evrything1 votes

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LP gain / loss is because of the hidden matchmaking rating. if your matchmaking rating is lower than your rank that will happen. to raise your mmr you just need to win more than 50% of your games for a while.

oh, is that "all" that he "just" needs to do?

-.- dont make it sound so easy.

The system is completely messed up. It should give a fixed amount of LP, win or lose. This "we want you to get demoted, so we are going to hang your gains" hidden mechanics has to go.

EL HAMSTERO1 votes

its silly i agree. but if it was purely based on mmr he would be a lower rank than he is now.

apparently they used to show the matchmaking rating but they thought people were getting 'mmr anxiety' so they went to this system.

it kind of makes sense - they are not making him fight players of his rank. they do the matchmaking based on his mmr. so if he checked his match history he would see he is facing mostly players 1 or 2 divisions below his. they want to put him in fair fights but they dont want to give him full credit since he isnt winning true matches of his division. if that makes sense.

it is possible for a silver ranked player to fight all bronzes in his ranked matches or a bronze to face only silvers. if you dodged all your promos it should be possible to be diamond mmr and fight only diamond players but still have the rank of bronze 5. it is all based on mmr. the ranks dont really mean anything.

Quil Evrything1 votes

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it is possible for a silver ranked player to fight all bronzes in his ranked matches or a bronze to face only silvers. if you dodged all your promos it should be possible to be diamond mmr and fight only diamond players but still have the rank of bronze 5. it is all based on mmr. the ranks dont really mean anything.

no it isnt possible. if you dodge all, then your mmr would neccessarily be tanked. Therefore you wouldnt have diamond mmr therefore you wouldnt be playing against other diamond mmr.

For what it's worth, I think they should make it so you only face people in your same tier, and always have the same LP win/loss. THe current system means, if your mmr drops a bit low, you can have a 50% win rate from then on.. but still be DEMOTED.

that's just wrong. Particularly given how common AFKs and trolls are. Get on a 3-game troll streak, and you're headed for demotion.

Just put them up against the same division/tier every time. Win, go up, lose, go down.

EL HAMSTERO1 votes

dodging does not effect mmr

Quil Evrything1 votes

unless you're in placements. then it counts as a loss. which affects mmr

EL HAMSTERO1 votes

it only counts as a loss as in your best of 3 placements score. it is not a true loss - you do not get anything on you W/L for it and it does not effect mmr.

Quil Evrything1 votes

If that's true that would be incredibly stupid and should count as a bug :(

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