Can someone explain how this isn't toxic?

Nucleophilic atk··2 votes·1,084 views

I understand that it is not toxic, or it would be punished. My question is why isn't it considered toxic? After the match, I decided to check her profile to discover this. I have crossed out asuup's name so that it isn't removed for naming and shaming. Let me know what you think so I can be enlightened!

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FHMarshy5 votes

I don't understand how a horrible player is being toxic by being bad....?

Nucleophilic atk2 votes

No, our first pick (annie) had called mid lane. Lulu was last pick and said "lolzies duo mid idc im mid". Then went mid and forced annie to top lane. Then, she insisted on running into turrets to die on purpose. Literally. Check the death locations.

I'm honestly not sure why you are defending someone that is clearly trolling games?

FHMarshy1 votes

Well, u clearly didn't explain that anywhere in the post, and all I did was look at the match history like you said you did. Hence my statement.

I didn't know he was one of those that trolls if didn't get lane.

They should be reported and perma banned

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

Yes, but I wouldn't be pointing her out if she was just bad lol. I agree she should be banned since her history is consistent with what she did in my game. It's too bad that riot defends this type of behavior. I sent in a ticket about it. Their response to me was, and I quote "if your suspension has happened because of internet issues, please fix the problem before playing. afk games hurt your teammates". What the actual fuck? I'm not suspended, nor is that what I even asked you about lol. The people that work their support system really have me doubt their intelligence lol.

Izbiz4 votes

Yo, this is the 2nd or 3rd post you've had about this.

Regardless if you're accurate or not, you need to stop worrying about other players. You can only really control your game.

Literally just stop worrying about it.

Nucleophilic atk2 votes

Can't help posting about it. I gotta inform the public so they can dodge if they get these fellas in their game.

Also, you didn't explain how this isn't toxic :/

Izbiz1 votes

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Can't help posting about it. I gotta inform the public so they can dodge if they get these fellas in their game.

Also, you didn't explain how this isn't toxic :/

it is toxic. but who cares? move on. It's called online gaming.

Nucleophilic atk2 votes

See, it obviously isn't toxic. If it were, rito would punish it.

Metikulus5 votes

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Yo, this is the 2nd or 3rd post you've had about this.

Regardless if you're accurate or not, you need to stop worrying about other players. You can only really control your game.

Literally just stop worrying about it.

Not that I necessarily disagree with what you said, but this crap has to stop. These players are the reason the community is crap. They make up a small portion, but they should be banned once this behavior becomes the norm for them.

Izbiz1 votes

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Not that I necessarily disagree with what you said, but this crap has to stop. These players are the reason the community is crap. They make up a small portion, but they should be banned once this behavior becomes the norm for them.

You're right, but there will ALWAYS be toxic players. so why bother worrying about it????

It's such a waste of effort. For everyone one Riot bans, another one starts.

They will eventually find themselves in B5. So if you stop worrying about it, you get to Silver (it's literally that easy). This means you will never see them

Nucleophilic atk3 votes

I'm in silver. So is this person. So that is false to be honest lol.

Izbiz1 votes

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I'm in silver. So is this person. So that is false to be honest lol.

Okay, gold then. God you're naive.

If you want to continue whining and complaining about toxic people in an online game, go for it.

I'm just telling you that it's a waste of time and you're stressing over nothing.

Have a nice life, kid.

Nucleophilic atk4 votes

I was gold last season, there was literally the same shit in it. So, again, that is false.

IMHERE2FCKURWIFE2 votes

How is this phasing you so much? It's literally one game you had with one guy quit trippin! If he really ruined your day just report the dude and move on. What are you gonna quit playing because of him? You're not gonna fix toxicity. There is always going to be toxic/troll players in this game not even Riot cannot change that. You have to expect this from solo queue. The only thing you're in control of is your own play. Instead of blaming others find out how you can improve your own play then you can learn to carry people that are worse than you and increase your elo.

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

Instead of blaming others find out how you can improve your own play then you can learn to carry people that are worse than you and increase your elo.

This is honestly a really stupid argument. You aren't going to carry players that are running down lanes feeding everyone. Unless of course you are a diamond smurf in bronze, but that literally has no relevance to this topic.

Riot cannot change that

I'm pretty sure if they banned this player, he would not be trolling games.

Nucleophilic atk2 votes

Exactly my point. They try to fix "toxicity", but they do it in the most stupid way possible. Instead of fixing the cause, they try to throw a blanket over the reaction. Nothing gets fixed that way and I don't understand how they don't see players like this are the cause of it. When one single player causes people to rage in every game, why would you ban all those players instead of just the one?

IMHERE2FCKURWIFE2 votes

Toxic is when someone's negative behavior reduces the performance of the rest of the team. This is more just troll and perhaps intentional feeding.

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

So locking in a role already selected, forcing our mid laner to top, and running down bot lane to feed 2 kills isn't reducing the performance of the rest of the team? I would have to disagree highly with that.

clyphen2 votes

Although I agree that this person, intentionally feeding or not, should be smacked down to dirt 5 by the hand of god (Riot), this behavior is not necessarily toxic. This is because toxicity, as most would define it in this context, is generally expressed through verbal abuse, harassment, foul language, etc. Feeding isn't toxic, but if it is intentional then it calls for a report for "Intentionally Feeding". This seems to be more of an argument of semantics.

Nucleophilic atk2 votes

Thank you for actually answering the question!

I can see that if you define toxicity solely on the verbal communication, that you wouldn't consider this toxic. My opinion of something being toxic is if it ruins the game for everyone playing, but I can see how your definition differs. I'm guessing rito's definition is more closely related to yours.

NxnOoRGyTh1 votes

Sht happens all the time, I get that same sht in game also but it's like that other guy said, what can you do. Report and move on, they rage report you also, then when you ask for others to help report and ban this troll/feeder/toxic person, they say you're butthurt or you're salty or some stupid ass reply that just makes no sense and then you're the one that gets reported and looks toxic. The community is trash, will always be trash, this game has become trash since being big. It was beyond better when it was little known and only so little people played it or few, but now that it's MAJOR in gaming, a bunch of lowlife trollers and idiots come and download and play the game and then ruins it for us for little to no reason. There isn't anything hard to understand in the game which makes me wonder why some morons even play, considering how bad and stupid they are and can't understand basics. I just had a Yasuo who was butthurt and racist from the beginning in game and was for no reason (Probably cause he sucks and lost a lot recently or just retarded) he trolled, went double top. Trash talked half of all game. But what can you do? 1 report isn't going to do anything. Neither is a lot, riot is trash, game is trash, community is trash. Better off finding another game LOL!

I understand there are bad players out there, obv. And you can't win them all and EVERY match, it's just not possible. But how can someone expect to have fun when you're always losing or have idiots or trolls on your team? It ruins the fun for everyone else and for yourself also. There's no way of keeping these morons off the game or nothing anyone can do about it. Since league is CONSIDERED a team game, 1 person can't carry always.

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

I understand there are bad players

No, I don't care about bad players. This person is not just a bad player, but rather a troll.

Qarekeo1 votes

Hey!

The thing about players is that, even when they obviously aren't helping their team and "unskilled player" is a category in reporting, not being good at the game isn't considered toxic behavior because there's no bad intent behind it and it can theoretically be remedied.

Unless this is deliberate feeding (which it does look like given the evidence), then report away. You'd think their LP would drop faster though, no offense.

Also, you shouldn't worry so much about players you're likely to only see a few times at most. It's bad for your health.

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

Yes, this player was deliberately feeding. He was in my game, and by the looks of it many others. The question was more so about why rito doesn't think this gameplay is toxic, and thus punish it.

Qarekeo1 votes

This either means that not enough people are reporting the behavior (which can happen, a lot of people don't bother because they think it won't help) or that the justice system is acting slowly. It takes quite a lot to get a ban I hear.

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