"You shouldn't rage because it hurts people's feelings and you don't know how they can handle it"

PDE5 Inhibitors··6 votes·732 views

First let me preference by saying I'm not implying people that are extremely toxic shouldn't be punished.

Why do people use this argument? I see sooo many posts about people getting their feelings hurt because someone said something mean to them (like noob). Other people will then say something like, "It's an online video game, get over it." This is met with the typical response of, "some people have issues and they can't just 'get over it'."

Let's acknowledge that this is completely true. Some people actually do have skin so thin that they flip out over the phrase, "gg ez". I've seen it many of times on this boards. And that some of these people have mental issues that makes them act this way uncontrollably (like ppl with depression). Buuuut, on the same hand, couldn't it be said that people have raging issues that are uncontrollable as well? Why are we discriminating against mental issues that don't align with your view? I'm just saying using the "mental" argument is pretty dumb, because the same thing can be said with ragers. And I know people will say that ragers don't have a place in the game, but then you can simply say that mentally fragile people shouldn't be playing on the internet knowing how people act on it.

Tl;dr: If you're going to respond to a "get over it" comment by saying you have mental issues that prohibit you from doing so, then don't tell people that have mental issues causing them to flame to "just stop".

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disregardable1 votes

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PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

I mean, if you're saying the reason is so people don't quit the game...wouldn't that be regarding what the community wants lol?

disregardable1 votes

reskimmed your post, decided my rant there wasn't a response to you as much as something I wanted to type.

And yes, Riot does leave it up to players to decide what to report. Honestly, you can't hide behind mental issues as an excuse. You agreed to the terms and service that you wouldn't harass your fellow players. If this game triggers you, you shouldn't play, and continuing to play is only going to get you banned if you don't keep yourself in check. That's what the rules are.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

Harass is one thing...but they are so strict now with their punishments. Just look at some of the chat logs these people are posting lol. It's like we're playing club penguin. I'm just saying, there's a mute button for the people that are "offended" by "gg ez".

disregardable1 votes

The actual words from the summoners code are to be sportsmanlike. Saying ggez is the equivalent of say, after winning a sporting match, instead of shaking hands with the other team you make an L sign on your forehead as you walk by. It's not very sportsmanlike.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

Actually, it would be the equivalent of saying "gg ez" after a sporting match. Which I don't believe you would be punished for. League doesn't compare to normal things, though. In football, for example, it's perfectly acceptable to shit talk on the field. If you do that in League, they cry to rito and you get banned lol.

Angry Monster1 votes

If people have some issue that makes them troll, excessively tilit, give up, or flip out is someway through just normal play; THEY SHOULD QUIT LEAGUE. Having a condition is not an excuse and people should not be doing things that effect them that badly. I feel bad that they have that condition but they should consider their own mental health and stay way from stressful environments.

Most people do not have REAL mental issues (out side of listening to people tell them they do). These people need to get over themselves and the bad behavior. You mute report and move on; end of the conversation. Yeah their are idiots in the game (and real world) move on.

I personally getting tired of these style of posts. We all know this happens, you posting is not doing a damn thing about but farming votes. Those that are trolls will avoid the thread and other people that can not get over the little things are going to white knight you. What a joke.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

And if people are that mentally unstable, THEY SHOULD QUIT LEAGUE. See how that works? I mean, why play an online game with a toxic community if you can't handle being called something as simple as a noob lol?

And farming upvotes? Uh...if I were trying to farm upvotes, I would either post a gif or a "guys, stop being mean" thread. Not the opposite. Please stop business majoring on my thread :).

Angry Monster1 votes

And if people are that mentally unstable, THEY SHOULD QUIT LEAGUE. See how that works? I mean, why play an online game with a toxic community if you can't handle being called something as simple as a noob lol?

no, you do not need to go around starting fights either. People that are overly effected for mental health should not be in a stressful environment, Their is 0 pve for them to be happy with. These people need to be realistic and say that this is not a health place for them. Not everything is for everybody.

People that do troll cause they can are a completely different issue and need to get a life and be banned. You are basically trying to pick a fight cause you think it is funny to get a rise out of people.

redniwediS1 votes

Some things are just difficult to argue. In this case it's arguing that you should be a good person.

You can't convince someone to be a good person. You can make them feel guilty, or threaten them, but it's ultimately their choice to be good or not.

If anything we should be putting some more effort into teaching people both how to write a legitimate argument and how to decide when you should argue.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

I just feel like rito is catering too much to "fragile" people. It's like, soon you will get chat banned for saying "rekt" after you kill someone (if you already don't).

ViashinoWizard1 votes

From a purely selfish perspective: Raging at someone will usually make them play worse and decrease your chances off winning.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

So why wouldn't they mute?

ViashinoWizard1 votes

Muting reduces the ability to communicate and coordinate in-game, which also decreases your chance of winning.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

Actually, it doesn't. At all. Hence why many people that just auto-mute everyone can easily win games. You use the pings.

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

I have never once seen someone say something in chat that couldn't be communicated with pings though.

MilfHuntUnitXJ91 votes

"Raging at someone will usually make them play worse and decrease your chances off winning." "some people have issues and they can't just 'get over it'."

While i think these are true point i dont think there should ever be a permaban for toxicity, rather the perma bans be saved for those who really did something wrong, like hacking, sending links to viruses, cheating etc.

I agree partly with OP.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

To be fair, if someone's play is getting worse because someone is talking to them, why wouldn't they just mute? I really don't understand how people bitch this much about "toxicity". I never have a problem being harassed because if someone starts saying stupid shit I just mute and move on. It's called not being a baby lol.

MilfHuntUnitXJ91 votes

that's exactly what I said, and i made a thread about it and got good upvotes but the fucking biased mods kept removing it for absolutely no reason. they specifically said in the Parent part of the terms of service that there is a mute button which is easily used, and they never mentioned reporting.

hermescostello1 votes

this argument is so :/ like regardless of whether you have issues, if you're being toxic then you're being toxic. it's as simple as that. i dont think people who have anger issues or people are easily hurt should play league though. i'm not saying they can't, but if i have a friend who wants to play it that i know has those issues then i would highly advise them against it. it's not them, but it's multiplayer team games with strangers like this in general. the environment can easily bring the worse out of anyone, but we should be encouraging everyone to stay positive regardless of where they're standing.

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