Why doesn't xerath ult get a slow but jhins does?

YoungFarmer·May 14, 2016·1 votes·1,052 views

IMO jhin ult way more busted than xerath ult.

14 Comments

OurLestradeMay 14, 20166 votes

You can't body block a Xerath ult :P

GaleWinUnleashedMay 14, 20161 votes

This seems like the main reason to me. Jhin's ult still does quite a bit of damage to the blocker, but at least it CAN be stopped.

lightdragoon88May 14, 20164 votes

Xerath ult range is longer, can fire in a full circle around him instead of 1 direction and does AOE damage instead of single target.

YumScrumptious96May 14, 20163 votes

Because Xerath's ult has an insane range and isn't awful in terms of damage early on. Nor does it have a limitor in terms of width.

IcyPepperMay 14, 20162 votes

Why doesn't Darius ult stun like Sejuani's ult?

Why doesn't Garen get four shots of his ultimate like Irelia does?

Why doesn't Xerath have AS boost his AD instead like Jhin does?

It's almost like they're two different champions that function differently.

YoungFarmerMay 14, 20162 votes

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Why doesn't Darius ult stun like Sejuani's ult?

Why doesn't Garen get four shots of his ultimate like Irelia does?

Why doesn't Xerath have AS boost his AD instead like Jhin does?

It's almost like they're two different champions that function differently.

yah jhins busted and xerath is meh.

masterdragon481May 14, 20162 votes

Xerath ulti is by far one of the worst ultimates in the game. But Jhin's ultimate is more what xerath's ultimate should be like, not the other way around.

LoLKiruMay 19, 20161 votes

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Xerath ulti is by far one of the worst ultimates in the game. But Jhin's ultimate is more what xerath's ultimate should be like, not the other way around.

I think its held back by how utterly RIDICULOUS it is in concept (at level 16, he's doing almost 2400 damage with only 500 AP if he can land every shot; thats enough to 100 to 0 anyone who isn't a tank in the game with JUST one skill, at over 5000 range)

Its potentially one of the strongest ultimates in the game for picking people off, but its held back by its unreliability.

masterdragon481May 19, 20161 votes

Which is so unreliable that its barely ever used. Xerath ultimate is so functionally bad, that its better to wait for your basic ability cool downs and lose though because that is less of a dps drop than using your ultimate. Not only that, but it looks pathetic (ity bitty tear drops lightly taping enemy champions). Nothing about the ability, besides the range, is ultimate worthy.

My point was that Jhin's ultimate was a successful iteration of a long ranged ultimate with counter play but also reliability (note that jhin at around full build can 100-0 a squishy as well with only ulti).

LoLKiruMay 19, 20161 votes

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Which is so unreliable that its barely ever used. Xerath ultimate is so functionally bad, that its better to wait for your basic ability cool downs and lose though because that is less of a dps drop than using your ultimate. Not only that, but it looks pathetic (ity bitty tear drops lightly taping enemy champions). Nothing about the ability, besides the range, is ultimate worthy.

My point was that Jhin's ultimate was a successful iteration of a long ranged ultimate with counter play but also reliability (note that jhin at around full build can 100-0 a squishy as well with only ulti).

Honestly, Riot seems to be scared of some ideal world where Xerath is always able to land multiple shots (albeit, its not THAD bad if you have rylais, still somewhat tricky though)

Biggest differences between Xerath and Jhin, is that Jhin can only hit one target, and his ult can be blocked; Unlike Xerath who can hit multiple people (PRETTY hard to do though) but more importantly theres nothing you can do VS his ult besides dodge it (which is thankfully very easy to do).

masterdragon481May 19, 20161 votes

Agree with your comparison to Jhin's ultimate. The problem is that its not only hard to hit multiple targets with Xerath ulti, its hard to hit one. The ability is so easy to dodge and avoid that its a complete failure of an ability. Xerath ulti has been a failure since his rework; either ultimate is the only thing you have that is in range (and you'll never hit) or you are close enough to use basic abilities (so there is no reason/incentive to use your ultimate). Its really really bad.

No one fears a Xerath ulti. At all. When Jhin sets up? You run for the hills (or to your nearest tank).

137434May 19, 20162 votes

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Which is so unreliable that its barely ever used. Xerath ultimate is so functionally bad, that its better to wait for your basic ability cool downs and lose though because that is less of a dps drop than using your ultimate.

That is because your ult roots you. If your enemy is staying within your basic abilities range you probably shouldn't use your ult. It is for picking off people far away or people running away to/pass safety.

masterdragon481May 19, 20161 votes

And that means that the enemy is too far away for you to actually hit them with the ultimate. So the only time it is useful is when its completely dodgeable and therefore useless anyways. Its a terrible ability.