Yeah Lyte destroy the game!!

Phuc Dat Bich·Aug 22, 2015·3 votes·1,381 views

So he say that anyone who got a ban he will not get his ranked rewards

Ok so people who have one time in ONE YEAR a 14 days ban they will not get their rewards....

Ok riot continue giving power to lyte a person who have the worst BEHAVIOR in the game he always act cocky and acts like he is the one who knows everything and that the rest of us are just some useless peasants and you people there giving him EVEN more power by disabling from the players something that it was core from 5 years?

Really riot? if lyte want players to not get their rewards because "we were toxic" how about he lose his job for being toxic AS heck 4 years now? every time you ask him something everything you prove him that he is wrong he goes like "Well i know better you suck you dont know my 200% statics knows better the community suck i know the best"

And this person DARES to say who is toxic and who is not?

Ok riot ok keep going on this path

43 Comments

ArcticWolf24Aug 22, 20158 votes

ok if you have a 14 day ban THAT MEANS YOU ARE TOXIC so I think its fine

Phuc Dat BichAug 22, 20152 votes

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ok if you have a 14 day ban THAT MEANS YOU ARE TOXIC so I think its fine

i got one 14 days ban like months ago and why? well simple because i got in the trap to answer to some guy who was trying to act like rich person and saying that all countries in Europe are poor and only his country is rich and something BS like that so i explain him how wrong he was but you see i was alone and he was premade so guess what he didnt get banned i was

And if i lie i want to see lyte telling me that i lie but because he cant he would hide and say 200% he is right....anyway imagine how many people get banned for reasons like that...one time in their history of their accounts

If riot dosent allow you to earn your rewards then why to play the game in the first place?

Deep Terror NamiAug 22, 20152 votes

he was premade so guess what he didnt get banned i was

Premades are not affected less by your reports than a solo player, and they have no more power in their reports than yours (1 report in a match is just as powerful as 9, and chat logs are scanned to verify verbal abuse too). If that chat got you banned, it was because you had a lot of prior reports as well; you don't get banned for one match with verbal abuse unless you crossed the line with things like racism and death threats. If he didn't get banned it's because he doesn't get lots of reports like you.

If riot dosent allow you to earn your rewards then why to play the game in the first place?

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! If you are toxic, don't play.

ArcticWolf24Aug 22, 20154 votes

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i got one 14 days ban like months ago and why? well simple because i got in the trap to answer to some guy who was trying to act like rich person and saying that all countries in Europe are poor and only his country is rich and something BS like that so i explain him how wrong he was but you see i was alone and he was premade so guess what he didnt get banned i was

And if i lie i want to see lyte telling me that i lie but because he cant he would hide and say 200% he is right....anyway imagine how many people get banned for reasons like that...one time in their history of their accounts

If riot dosent allow you to earn your rewards then why to play the game in the first place?

u don't get a 14 day ban for one offense, it takes multiple offenses to even get a one day ban, so if that's your only cry baby reason on why you got banned well u were probably toxic previous to that game too. summoner 14 Teemo

Phuc Dat BichAug 22, 20151 votes

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u don't get a 14 day ban for one offense, it takes multiple offenses to even get a one day ban, so if that's your only cry baby reason on why you got banned well u were probably toxic previous to that game too.

hmm i guess 365 days not even 5 days chat restricted this event happen and 14 days ban...i guess i was soo toxic bruh...anyway i dont care to argue with people like you

My point is that lyte destroy the game do you want everyone who is "toxic" to be out? then ok the 99% of the player data base would quit league

Even your favorite streamers and LCS players they are toxic

AND EVEN you your self is toxic too

Deep Terror NamiAug 22, 20157 votes

This has been on the Ranked Play FAQ for a while. Lyte merely mentioned it.

DeadlyQuestionAug 22, 20156 votes

Yep. This was present for the 2014 season too.

RueianAug 22, 20152 votes

Original Statement says Chat restriction or Ranked restriction currently active at the end of the season results in the loss of ranked rewards. This would also include time bans if they are currently active at the end of the season. But if the season ends in October and you were Suspended back in January the new policy says you do not get your ranked rewards. hence why i keep saying the old policy and the new policy are not the exact same. and this last second announcment chances the rules far too much.

If a person was suspended in January and was expecting to get ranked rewards and has not been suspended since january, this announcement has swept the rewards from under their feet. This is a double punishment that was not previously in place.

You are reading the 2014 FAQs wrong. It states nothing about players losing rewards for punishment earlier in the season.

DeadlyQuestionAug 22, 20153 votes

And you're not reading the current news at all. What that 2014 FAQ stated is how it is now, too. If you're banned at the end while the rewards are given out, you don't get them. Lyte admitted misspeaking and corrected himself, it's been all over for the last 36 hours.

RueianAug 22, 20151 votes

Original Statement says Chat restriction or Ranked restriction currently active at the end of the season results in the loss of ranked rewards. This would also include time bans if they are currently active at the end of the season. But if the season ends in October and you were Suspended back in January the new policy says you do not get your ranked rewards. hence why i keep saying the old policy and the new policy are not the exact same. and this last second announcment chances the rules far too much.

If a person was suspended in January and was expecting to get ranked rewards and has not been suspended since january, this announcement has swept the rewards from under their feet. This is a double punishment that was not previously in place.

It actually hasn't been on the FAQs at all.

Deep Terror NamiAug 22, 20153 votes

CAN RANKED RESTRICTED PLAYERS GET SEASON REWARDS? We’ve determined that season rewards should reward positive sportsmanship just as much as they reward great play, so the most negative players who are ranked or chat restricted at the end of the season will NOT be eligible to earn ranked end of the season rewards.

It's been there since last season.

RueianAug 22, 20151 votes

You apparently cant read then

so the most negative players who are ranked or chat restricted at the end of the season

"at the end of the season"

the only thing the policy says is they are punished if they are currently being punished "AT THE END OF THE SEASON"

Not 1 month ago not 2 months ago not 7 months ago

AT THE END OF THE SEASON

DeadlyQuestionAug 22, 20152 votes

Yeah, that's how it is now, too. If you're banned at the end while the rewards are given out. Lyte mispoke and corrected himself, it's been all over for the last 36 hours.

RueianAug 22, 20151 votes

This policy was just added 2 days ago. THIS is the issue. The issue isn't that the policy is in place. It is that it is being changed last second again

Deep Terror NamiAug 22, 20152 votes

Go read up on the specifics and stop being whiny.

http://ask.fm/RiotLyte

RueianAug 22, 20151 votes

This policy was just added 2 days ago. THIS is the issue. The issue isn't that the policy is in place. It is that it is being changed last second again.

Deep Terror NamiAug 22, 20152 votes

No, it wasn't. I have been aware of it for a long time.

RueianAug 22, 20151 votes

the part about punishing people who were suspended at 'any time during the season' is new to the policy

DeadlyQuestionAug 22, 20153 votes

I still don't see where it says there is definitely going to be a difference between how it was in 2014 and how it is now. I see them saying "We're working out details," which _could _ mean they're lubing up to fuck all of you, but it probably means they're preparing to impose stricter sanctions for next season.

But, whether I agree or disagree, whether it's actually fair or unfair, if you miss out on this years rewards, so what? All the work you did will still get your elo carried over to next ranked season where you'll potentially start at a similar rank, chances are you probably didn't receive the ranked rewards for ALL previous seasons so some bizarre OCD you have for collections is still incomplete for those past seasons, and you're still eligible to receive rewards next seasons if you shut your fucking toxically diseased mouth during games and play nice.

Reformed or not, you're either going to quit out of some false sense of injustice that doesn't actually make sense, or you're going learn your goddamn lesson and stop being an immature child when you get angry. Either way, what ever happens, happens, and there's nothing you can do about it. Working up all of this anxiety over one season's rewards is ridiculous.

RueianAug 22, 20151 votes

You are being quite insensitive about mental and emotional disorders.

DeadlyQuestionAug 22, 20153 votes

I am not. I am a very accepting person and because of my own family history am very educated in mental illnesses and mood disorders. However, I was speaking generally. The majority of people do not have function-impairing mood disorders that would otherwise give them an excuse for their behavior, and because of that I am comfortable stating what I did. If you or anyone else has a real issue, they can exclude themselves in a reasonable fashion from my comment. Everyone's comments can't apply to 100% of people, and generalities must be interpreted properly, it's not my responsibility to walk on egg shells because of your emotions.

RueianAug 22, 20151 votes

Except everyone makes blanket statements about 'toxic players' assuming all of them are 100% intentionally acting that way. Not my case, I heavily struggle with keeping myself out of punishment and i find myself on its door all the time because of my disorders. This new punishment policy doesn't help make me less stressed about how i act, it doesn't help me act better, and it actually might cause a relapse in me. Hell the past 2 days i've been non stop thinking about why i'm even alive... and keep finding myself wanting to die, because of how hostile everyone is.

DeadlyQuestionAug 22, 20153 votes

The punishment policy isn't going to change. It's going to be the same as the last season, with maybe a minor exception to reoccuring episodes of hate speech.

Secondly, your mental illness doesn't mean that you're stupid, and you're clearly not delusional: remove yourself from the offending stimuli, and if you refuse to, then the responsibility is still yours.

Mental illness isn't a "Get Out Of Responsibility" card. You have to deal with more internal distraction and do more mental work, sure, but it doesn't excuse unacceptable behavior. If the game is exacerbating your condition, remove yourself from it until your episode has subsided. It isn't fair and it sucks, but those are cards we're dealt, and there's not a lot we can do about it.

And again, if you feel you can't or otherwise refuse to do so, then any bans you received from exhibited behaviors and any rewards you miss out on are still deserved, and you can modify your behavior next season.

RueianAug 23, 20151 votes

the policy has already changed this season. That is why there is this huge outrage.

I cant control my team. They are the ones who trigger me.

I never said it did, but people litterally dont care if someone struggles.

They dont help me, they shouldn't punish me more harshly. They have made my problem theirs.

R110Aug 23, 20151 votes

It is still at the end of the season for chat and ranked restrictions.

Things that got added to the policy: 7-14 bans will not get any rewards in the season they got a time ban. Idem for multiple 20 minute low priority queue. (To get a low priority queue of 20 minutes, someone needs to leave a game while completing their 5 minute queue and then leave a game while completing their 10 minute queue. Each low priority queue lasts for 5 games.)

 "I made a huge blunder earlier, then was on a flight so didn't have a chance to correct the post earlier.

In the last season of Leagues play, we excluded some of the Ranked Rewards from players that were excessively toxic (so, exhibited severe offensive behaviors such as racism and sexism) or were persistently toxic (so, exhibited moderately offensive behaviors in a large number of games). We're going to continue this policy this year; however, there are some slight changes:

One, we always want to encourage reform, and celebrate players that successfully reform by the end of the season. So, players that got a Chat or Ranked Restriction during the season, but manage to reform and DO NOT HAVE active Chat or Ranked Restrictions by the season end cutoff will still get their Ranked Rewards. Players that still have active Chat or Ranked Restrictions by the season end cutoff will not be eligible.

Two, players that have received a few Low Priority Queues will still be eligible for Ranked Rewards because we do not want to punish players who may have gotten a few queues due to ISP or hardware issues; however, extremely chronic leavers that have left a huge fraction of their games or hundreds and hundreds of games will not receive Ranked Rewards. These are players that have ruined hundreds of thousands of games, and have had multiple 20 minute Low Priority Queues.

Three, players that have received escalated bans (so 7-day or 14-day bans) for excessive toxicity at any point during the 2015 Season will not receive Ranked Rewards. Players that have received these types of bans have shown some of the most egregious behaviors in the game, and we have a zero tolerance policy against things like racism, sexism, homophobia and other kinds of hate speech. These players WILL be eligible for Ranked Rewards in future seasons if they reform and are not flagged for excessive behaviors in future seasons.

Quote found on surrenderat20.net https://twitter.com/RiotLyte/status/634823368097812480?ref_src=twsrc^tfw https://twitter.com/RiotLyte/status/634823207527280640?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

RueianAug 23, 20151 votes

Thats what i've been saying the whole time.

R110Aug 23, 20151 votes

I just don't understand why you think this is such a bad change. Are we really going to complain about having meaningful punishments in the game? Punishments that can't be solved by simply making a smurf. Ultimately, it doesn't restrict anyone from making actions in the game, whether that be: playing the actual game, restricting queue's or restricting chat. I understand that the timing of this change is poor but other than that I feel that it really good long term change.

RueianAug 23, 20151 votes

It really isn't... removing the ranked reward actually removes incentive to even play the game for some people. Some of the most toxic players are actually just very passionate and cant channel it well. Like myself i'm very passionate about the game but am not super amazing, so i need to rely on my team. Their actions directly effect my mood. I dont think removing ranked rewards is even meaningful in the long run if only 20% of the the community plays ranked. How much of the toxic player base is in ranked. Its more just a very big dissapointment... even more so when you dont warn its going to happen. People knew it was in place for people who had active punishments at the end of season, but this was without warning.

This isn't punishment, riot is just taking revenge.

AMYS GRAVEAug 22, 20153 votes

Ok so people who have one time in ONE YEAR a 14 days ban they will not get their rewards....

A 14 day ban is the culmination of persistent and egregious toxic behavior. It isn't even close to doing something one time.

KVbqbFsC8eAug 22, 20152 votes

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A 14 day ban is the culmination of persistent and egregious toxic behavior. It isn't even close to doing something one time.

Yeah, thats what Lyte claims and its what most people believe, but it isn't true. I got a two week ban for a single game in which I called my botlane bad. I wasn't chat restricted and I have never been rank restricted. I just think that if those two week bans were truly for those extremely toxic players, I wouldn't have gotten one. The most toxic thing I've ever said, was calling someone "bad". When the ban was over I still wasn't chat or rank restricted.

JubbinautAug 22, 20153 votes

I guarantee you didn't receive a ban for a single game, unless that game specifically included hate speech.

They may have only sent you the logs of one game, but that was not the only game in your case.

RueianAug 22, 20151 votes

It can happen if you are just grossly offensive, because of the new automated system. If you say pretty much every single trigger word. Racist, sexist, homophobic slurs, etc. You can in fact get banned for 1 game.

JubbinautAug 23, 20151 votes

Interestingly, racist, sexist, and homophobic slurs all qualify as hate speech. Which I mentioned.

RueianAug 23, 20151 votes

i'm just saying, it can happen for 1 game. and i mean EXACTLY 1 game.

JubbinautAug 23, 20151 votes

Yes. It can. Which is something accounted for in my original statement.

KVbqbFsC8eAug 23, 20151 votes

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I guarantee you didn't receive a ban for a single game, unless that game specifically included hate speech.

They may have only sent you the logs of one game, but that was not the only game in your case.

I can guarantee that I definitely have never once been racist, sexist, homophobic. I think that if this was because of many games, I would have been chat restricted. From what I've read, people who get a two week ban typically have a chat and rank restriction when its over. The only thing I saw upon logging in was +1 honorable opponent.

Maybe it was because of multiple games in which I have called out a poor teammate. Never anything worse than just calling them bad though. I think if I was really that bad, they would have given me a chat restriction before a sudden two week ban.

JubbinautAug 23, 20151 votes

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I can guarantee that I definitely have never once been racist, sexist, homophobic.

Then your ban must not have been for a single game. I wasn't trying to imply that you had been any of those things, but rather ensure that my statement was true in its entirety. Apologies of it came across otherwise.

I think that if this was because of many games, I would have been chat restricted. From what I've read, people who get a two week ban typically have a chat and rank restriction when its over. The only thing I saw upon logging in was +1 honorable opponent.

While that does happen, it's not necessarily a part of the system.

Maybe it was because of multiple games in which I have called out a poor teammate. Never anything worse than just calling them bad though. I think if I was really that bad, they would have given me a chat restriction before a sudden two week ban.

Without seeing logs, I'm not really in a position to say what or why it went the way it did. I've also noticed that, because of the way the logs are handled now (only showing the triggering game), that's not always particularly helpful at determining the major problem behaviors - though it's still better than merely guessing.

DoctrorpheusAug 23, 20152 votes

Has anyone received a one day ban? A three day ban? I haven't even seen anyone talking about getting a 7 day. They unloaded a ton of 14 day bans at the beginning for things that had nothing to do with racism, sexism, etc.

People went from chat restriction directly to 14 day ban. I don't know if that's what they intended or not. But if you weren't using hate speech that probably shouldn't have happened.

Phuc Dat BichAug 23, 20152 votes

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Has anyone received a one day ban? A three day ban? I haven't even seen anyone talking about getting a 7 day. They unloaded a ton of 14 day bans at the beginning for things that had nothing to do with racism, sexism, etc.

People went from chat restriction directly to 14 day ban. I don't know if that's what they intended or not. But if you weren't using hate speech that probably shouldn't have happened.

When the system first came out people get banned for no reason even from simple arguments the boards was full with that and with people posting the logs and the logs was nothing more than simple arguments in the game (no sexism no racism/etc) but hey the lyte smurff account here would never tell you the truth and they will continue say that this was normal....

And if lyte came he will say "well the 40% of the bans probably was wrong but not any system is flaweless but the 2448547% was right because i am 140% confident that the 400% of the community have less than 10% toxicity after the 40% false bans"

How lyte always responde with bunch of bs

RueianAug 23, 20151 votes

The system is very accurate. I do not doubt that it is accurate. There are rooms for possible flaws. Its just about keeping an open mind about the fact that there always will be a small chance for flaws.

I think you are abit to close to the problem. Calm down and look at the system and how it can fail rather than assuming it does or doesnt.

KougaAug 23, 20152 votes

I have been playing League since the beta, and have never received a ban. It really isn't that hard to do. Just don't be a dick to people.

And rewards are meant to be incentives, so why reward bad behavior?

BeatzBoyFTWAug 23, 20152 votes

Sometimes, life can be solved in a niffy simply by hitting the mute button or not touch the Enter button at all. But sigh, baddies stay baddies I guess.