Placing a ward should give you gold

Nucleophilic atk · 2015-04-12T14:25:46.114Z

1) Increase income of supports (especially those with no ADC to get assist gold from). 2) Encourage teammates, the ones too unintelligent to understand the power of vision, to ward.

Nucleophilic atk·Apr 12, 2015·1 votes·439 views

Increase income of supports (especially those with no ADC to get assist gold from).
Encourage teammates, the ones too unintelligent to understand the power of vision, to ward.

13 Comments

RavenHuskyApr 12, 20152 votes

If you're a support, you should always rush a sightstone, as they pay for themselves after 11 wards placed.

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Nucleophilic atkApr 12, 20151 votes

Correct. I'm more so talking about other players lol. I'm tired of playing a game and warding more as ADC than 3/4 of my teammates. Also, given that the health portion 400, you are really only paying 400 for the wards. This means the sightstone pays for itself with 6 wards.

YatsufusåApr 13, 20151 votes

Oh really? Then you buy a sightstone and spam wards in the spawn zone. Now Lee Sin will win every game. (Unless there's two Lee Sins)

Nucleophilic atkApr 13, 20151 votes

I don't see that being as issue (see what I did there???). I am not saying give enough gold to make sightstone a viable rush on a mid laner over an item lol. I don't think 30g would hurt, though.

EleshakaiApr 13, 20151 votes

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I don't see that being as issue (see what I did there???). I am not saying give enough gold to make sightstone a viable rush on a mid laner over an item lol. I don't think 30g would hurt, though.

Kog'maw gets 800 gold. Buys sightstone. Stands in fountain. Places 2000 wards. Sells sightstone. Buys full build. Wins game.

WOOT!

Nucleophilic atkApr 13, 20151 votes

Point taken. Did not think about this lol. I suppose it could be for trinkets and green/pink wards only, and not apply to sightstone. That solves your issue. I'm sure there are other issues that I have not thought about, though.

EleshakaiApr 13, 20151 votes

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Point taken. Did not think about this lol. I suppose it could be for trinkets and green/pink wards only, and not apply to sightstone. That solves your issue. I'm sure there are other issues that I have not thought about, though.

The biggest problem is that vision is already ABSURDLY powerful. Incentivizing it further by making wards cheaper(or by giving any other power additive to wards) isn't going to do anything except make the people who already recognize how powerful wards are even more effective. If people don't recognize the power of vision yet... nothing you do will make them.

Nucleophilic atkApr 13, 20151 votes

Granting them gold for using that FREE trinket they get, might make them place the ward. I don't care if they don't understand the power of vision, I just care that they actually do it lol. I'm tired of playing ADC and placing more wards than anyone on my team (including the support a lot of games).

EleshakaiApr 13, 20151 votes

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Granting them gold for using that FREE trinket they get, might make them place the ward. I don't care if they don't understand the power of vision, I just care that they actually do it lol. I'm tired of playing ADC and placing more wards than anyone on my team (including the support a lot of games).

IF a person doesn't understand the value of wards, they won't put the ward anywhere valuable. Theyll just drop a trinket ward by their tower or in the middle of the lane. That's the thing... you can't make people appreciate the power of vision with gold. It's something they have to learn themselves.

I think rewarding someone for placing a ward mid-lane is an awful form of negative reinforcement that would just lead to people caring about wards less.

Nucleophilic atkApr 13, 20151 votes

I disagree. I don't think placing a gold value on ward placement would cause players to ward their tower. I would hope they at least know enough about the game by level 30 to know that wards go into the bushes. If not, well then they are too unintelligent to play the game in my opinion.

EleshakaiApr 13, 20151 votes

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I disagree. I don't think placing a gold value on ward placement would cause players to ward their tower. I would hope they at least know enough about the game by level 30 to know that wards go into the bushes. If not, well then they are too unintelligent to play the game in my opinion.

People who don't respect the value of vision would just place the ward whereever was most convenient - whereever would take the least time away from whatever else they're doing.

But what I do think that this would do is force them to raise the price of wards AND warding trinket upgrades drastically... since as it is they are already almost too cheap for the effect they give.

It would ALSO drastically affect the scaling of late game comps, since they could get the vision they need to be safe for cheap AND also get free gold for their late game carries just off the trinket... thus meaning late game would come sooner.

KillstradoApr 13, 20151 votes

To all the feedback from people bitching: have you every heard of "cannot occur more than ' ' number of times in ' ' amount of time" or charges, personally I think it's a great idea to get more people to ward and completely controllable. Some people are just irrational lol

Nucleophilic atkApr 13, 20152 votes

Thanks. I do think it should avoid applying to sightstone, though. That could get abused lol.