I was happy with the Leave Buster concept until...

Señor Karthus··52 votes·3,458 views

...the game never loaded even if the loading screen was perfectly fine for me. It was showing me loading normally until 100% and one of my teammates was the one not loading. Not only that. I was playing with my husband here at home and his screen was showing exactly the same. It never crashed. It never gave a hint that it was us the ones not loading. After a fuckton of time we ALT F4 to reload to discover that it was us and that the ARAM game was over (below 7 minutes). THen the Leave Buster sends me a warning that I fucked up the game and thta I had to agree with that warning. Sent a support email and I was told that now I am in a low-priority queue. First of all I NEVER DISCONNECT OR AFK. NEVER. EVER. If i got chat restricted because I have sometimes been into fights on the chat I would understand. But I NEVER LEFT A GAME. EVER. And the Leave Buster punishes me for a software problem? And the support team tells me to suck it up? Seriously? I was happy with the Leave Buster because I fucking hate afkers and dcs especially on ranked games. But now I see it doesn't work properly and that the support team is not willing to do anything to add human interaction to a system that can't recognize when it has been something intentional and when it has been totally not your fault.

42 Comments

Krigjer25 votes

I hate that 'I agree' popup.

Uh, no. Your servers never showed me as connected and I had to force LoL to close and reload.

Typing I agree shows that you are at fault, and not Riot, which is bullshit.

Señor Karthus4 votes

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I hate that 'I agree' popup.

Uh, no. Your servers never showed me as connected and I had to force LoL to close and reload.

Typing I agree shows that you are at fault, and not Riot, which is bullshit.

I actually tried to write another kind of thing but obviously it wouldn't let me. Now I bet they will use it to say "hey you agreed YOU fucked up and that it was YOUR fault."

Karlyr8 votes

First, they wouldn't. Second, it's implicitly part of the summoner's code ANYWAY, which you already agreed. Third, it's a warning message for a first offense, to dissuade from doing it again. It's annoying, I agree. But it's something put in place to be sure that people that are unaware of this system are right after.

JudoPunch1 votes

Exactly, its just a warning.

Now why you waited 7 minutes to restart the client...

Señor Karthus3 votes

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Exactly, its just a warning.

Now why you waited 7 minutes to restart the client...

It is not just a warning. Next time this or something similar happens. the punishment will be severe. That's why I want this warning removed. I went to the bathroom as usual while it loaded. Then waited a while. After a couple of minutes (4 in total) is when I worried and ALT+F4'ed and tried to reconnect. And it didn't work. I had to kill the process a couple of times and then load the game and it was 6 minutes in total. It is not that unusual that a game takes 2 or 3 minutes to load.

Jubbinaut2 votes

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It is not just a warning. Next time this or something similar happens. the punishment will be severe. That's why I want this warning removed.

Well, it is just a warning. That, at least, is the purpose of the message. Whether or not there will be any penalties (much less severe ones) on your next afk is strongly dependent on how often/how regularly you leave/afk from games.

If it's not particularly common, it's extremely unlike you have anything to worry about.

Hawkefire5 votes

They could easily reword it

Chromatic Eagle4 votes

But we're not summoners anymore. We need a new code.

willcarry4gold1 votes

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I hate that 'I agree' popup.

Uh, no. Your servers never showed me as connected and I had to force LoL to close and reload.

Typing I agree shows that you are at fault, and not Riot, which is bullshit.

wait... so agreeing with someone's point means that it's instantly wrong?

AbiwonKenabi1 votes

I think you're confused. He's referring to the pop-up on your League Client, where it explains you messed up and afk'd so you have to type "I agree." It's the system's way of warning you.

I had a similar problem happen and now I'm like afraid to play League sometimes in case I have that problem again. I don't WANT to d/c from a game, but when the game just doesn't load, what can I do? Leaver Buster is nice, but its obviously flawed and can't discern between intentional afks and just software problems that prevent you from joining a game.

EL HAMSTERO7 votes

First they came for the Trolls, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Troll.

Then they came for the Ragers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Rager.

Then they came for the AFKers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a AFKer.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Konidias5 votes

I've had this happen to me a few times. I load to 100% quickly as normal, and then one person is taking forever to load and freezes at a certain percentage for a long time.

By now I know to just kill the LoL process and restart it... but the first time it happened I was like "man this guy is taking forever to load... wow it's been like 5 minutes... geez what is wrong?" then I restarted my client, finally got into the game and it was 12 minutes in already. The guy who wasn't loading had actually been in there the whole time, and it was actually me who didn't load.

There definitely needs to me more transparency as to what is happening during the loading screen. I expect to 100% get into the match if I load to 100% with no problems... I shouldn't have to kill my client process and restart to get in.

Linthe3 votes

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...the game never loaded even if the loading screen was perfectly fine for me. It was showing me loading normally until 100% and one of my teammates was the one not loading.

What I hate even more than this... is when EVERYONE gets to 100% and it takes a "fuckton" hahahah... of time to get into game. I mean WTH is going on at that point? Are we all at 100% or NOT?

I have been VERY afraid of exactly what you experienced multiple times.

PandahHeart2 votes

I was playing a normal match one day and all of sudden the game made me d/c(I had like 500 ping). My internet was perfectly fine since I could do anything else with it and I have a decent desktop so everything was fine until I was forced to d/c and I couldn't reconnect back into the game either, since the client was being externally slow. That was the first time I had ever left a game for the whole match. I also got the Leaverbuster warning and it wasn't even my fault.. -___-

Vellich0r1 votes

if you ever have 500 ping exactly, it means you've disconnected and the servers are just too stupid to understand that fact

Nameless Voice2 votes

This is, sadly, a known bug in all games. If the game doesn't load in the first 2-3 minutes, just quit and reconnect until you get in. Often the game has got bugged and erroneously shows someone else as not having loaded, when it's actually you that the server has dropped.

IndianHippie2 votes

This has happened often even in normal games. It is usually an issue with your pc getting connected to the game right after it loads. Often there is no warning that you are stuck on loading screen. I just have to make a choice, dc and reconnect (not often an ideal one because sometimes everyone is stuck in there and if i had waited a minute or more i would be in), or I keep waiting on loading screen hoping that its not just me but everyone (again not very idea cause the rest of them could already be in game..

Takeuchi 172 votes

this happened to me too. it was such bs. didnt get thrown into a low priority tho, it just gave me the warning that i had to agree to. if rito is gonna make their entire penalty system automated they should make sure their crummy client works. i cant tell you how many times it crashes for no reason and its definitely not due to anything on my end

S H A Y C 01 votes

Yet another Riot Fail ( a phrase soon to replace "Epic Fail" in popularity) in a long line of historically ill conceived attempts to be "big boys" while picking their nose and pooping in their diapee

phirestarter1 votes

Same thing happened to me last year. Now I always watch the loading screen to make sure the ping number changes every so often...

Vellich0r2 votes

Even if it is changing you can still not be loaded in. Happened to me twice like that

LL5dBV0WZ41 votes

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Same thing happened to me last year. Now I always watch the loading screen to make sure the ping number changes every so often...

This is exactly what I do now. One person was stuck at like 35% and I thought it was him. 5 min later I realized it was me. I now put youtube on in the background during load screen just to see my ping fluctuate since mine is normally at a steady 62.

Scrimshäw1 votes

adapt

doiminat0r36001 votes

telling someone to adapt to something that

  1. already happened
  2. can't possibly be adapted to
  3. shouldn't have happened in the first place is complete crap. you may be THAT guy in this scenario, but that doesn't mean to be mean to everyone else that has had this happen.
Earthlord Jazz1 votes

I actually got a LeaveBuster warning in my own custom game (which I was the only one in the game mind you, practicing Eve jungle clears) for remaining inactive while I had to answer some people's chem questions...

NewOnyx1 votes

how the hell, and u didnt fill a ticket? It says in one of they're official threads on the leaver buster on old forums that you can get leavers for everything except custom games...

Señor Karthus2 votes

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how the hell, and u didnt fill a ticket? It says in one of they're official threads on the leaver buster on old forums that you can get leavers for everything except custom games...

I did send a ticket to the support team and they replied that I was put in the low priority queue for leaving. Period. They should have better ended with a "how do you like that?"

Migrañaboy1 votes

It's really annoying that afterwards Riot makes you type I agree that I'm voluntarily dissconecting and know the consequences. wtf

Bonnibel1 votes

The exact same thing happened to me a few days ago, but on SR instead. I loaded 100% quickly and some of my teammaters were still on ~11% while others were 100% too. After waiting so long and going back to the desktop multiple times to make sure my screen wasn't frozen, I decided to close and reopen the client. The game was 6 minutes in with everyone playing normally.

Since then I have this obsession to look at my ping and teammates loading %. If they don't move at all I start to think something is wrong

NewOnyx1 votes

Welcome to the club, i mean its only your fault that riot servers are bad.

JedenVojak1 votes

Yes, I have also experienced this phenomenon, and I find that "I agree" nonsense to be childish and insulting.

How to deal with leavers in the game is a problem that Riot really hasn't solved yet.

aaronautumn1 votes

How does the leaver buster work? I've disconnected in all my games today but haven't gotten a warning. Is it only if you're gone for long periods of time?

LessHerpMoreDerp1 votes

the other day I was in a game when I suddenly dced, and couldn't get back in. So after trying to get back into the game for 10 minutes, I gave up and decided to play on the NA server. When I got back to the EUW server, it was like the game never existed, i didnt show up in my match history.

Aegis Meliae1 votes

I was just wondering, as I could be wrong. But when someone disconnects or takes forever to load, if it takes more than 5 minutes the game starts without them, correct?

At least that's what I remember hearing once, so I generally make sure to check my phone after awhile and if it's been over 5 minutes I restart League. Could be something to keep in mind?

Still, there is a flaw with the loading screen. I believe pretty much everything has something that spins/flips/whatever to let you know everything is loading normally, if it stops the program has crashed. 'Tis why I liked it when we could see other peoples ping in loading, if nobodies ping was fluctuating at all, something was wrong.

Now all we have is these loading percentages that barely let us know if somethings up. Makes me paranoid every time I play.

Docter100001 votes

I don't even know why i got that leave buster , i don't have a leave , in both matches , i don't think it was for dancing near the enemy nexus for 3 minutes cuz we won

Karlyr1 votes

Just getting late in a game will pop it up. It's just a warning. No one will get punished for it. (unless you leave 5 straight games)

Ztoka1 votes

Same thing happened to me the other day. I put in a ticket and the rep insulted me by trying to get me to troubleshoot my network. I had explained this happened to 3 others I qued with.. Anyhow, they were unable to do anything but pss me off :p I was able, along w/ the other 3, to get in around the 10 minute mark because we all closed and re loaded the client. It's great to get punished for Riots sht client/servers :/ Even though leave buster isn't supposed to really punish those few and far between instances, it could sure stink to have this issue a few times and be banned due to it :/

Zydron1 votes

I was once playing Xerath and was doing fairly well for myself, I even ended up with an unofficial penta, (which it should've been but thats not the point).

Anyway my internet provider (Comcast obviously) crapped out and our entire area lost service and I lost connection for about 20 minutes, we were already so ahead that my team was able to push into the already downed inhibs, but still, it counted as a loss for me, EVEN THOUGH MY TEAM WON AND I LEFT THE GAME THROUGH NO INTENT OF MY OWN FOR 5 MINUTES!

I hate the leaverbuster system a lot atm

Laughing Fish1 votes

My brother just got a ban because he game got a "missing file" error once and could not load, and than about a month later our internet went down in the middle of a game.

The Trent1 votes

Every spoiled little child doesn't understand, some peoples internets/ computers aren't as good as their's. I used to report people who never connected to the game until my wifi started sucking and I wasn't even able to contect to some games. U can report a person who afks in fountain and does nothing, but never report someone who dcs it's not right. You're basically saying, oh hey your poor and can't afford really nice wifi and a really nice computer, I'm going to make your life even worse.

Oh also it sucks when your parents pull you out of your game randomly, like they didn't tell you that you were leaving/ had to wait to start another game.

Señor Karthus1 votes

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Every spoiled little child doesn't understand, some peoples internets/ computers aren't as good as their's. I used to report people who never connected to the game until my wifi started sucking and I wasn't even able to contect to some games. U can report a person who afks in fountain and does nothing, but never report someone who dcs it's not right. You're basically saying, oh hey your poor and can't afford really nice wifi and a really nice computer, I'm going to make your life even worse.

Oh also it sucks when your parents pull you out of your game randomly, like they didn't tell you that you were leaving/ had to wait to start another game.

I'm sorry but I will certainly report those cases. Unless a great explanation about an emergency is said in the chat. This is not about this. I would totally understand if the people in my team reported me. That's not the issue. The issue is Riot relying on an automatic system that can be flawed and needs human interaction to correct when it is not fair.

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