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It's only a game, it's only normals.

Jesuszilla··2 votes·657 views

Lately I have been playing some normal draft mode because I find ranked overly annoying and I don't have the time to devote to raising my rank because of RL commitments. So instead I choose to play a slightly less competitive but still noteworthy game mode, similar to ranked without the strain of being openly rated. There is this rash of mentality in a competitive game like league, in draft normals a mode meant to simulate actual competitive games for practice purposes, of plays excusing their extremely poor play and intentional feeding with one of two lines. "God why you complain, it's only a game!" or "It's normals, why you tryhard?". It completely boggles my mind how players think this should excuse the way they play that creates a negative experience for the rest of the players. What to try out some fun games? Que with friends or play blind. Those both offer the same experience without you creating a toxic environment from intentionally poor gameplay. And if you are just making lots of mistakes because of a lower skill level or a lack of understanding, then why not accept the advice of others? I think poor play and a refusal to work with a team while using such excuses should be the real toxic part of this game.

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Izbiz2 votes

I will greatly disagree with you. League of Legends is a video game afterall. It's played however the player wants to play it within the restrictions of the Summoner's Code. It just means that if I'm not trying hard or I'm making bad plays, mr MMR/LP will drop and I'll play with worse people. This goes for ranked and unranked.

You can't make someone try their hardest. You can't make them play better. You can't tell people what champ goes in what lane. It's their game and they're entitled to play how they want.

I also want to put emphasis that if a Summoner choses to make poor decisions, doesn't try and/or trolls, their MMR/LP will drop and they will play with similar players.

Jesuszilla1 votes

You're right it is a game.... that breeds a competitive nature, has a huge monetary community and is actually a career for some. So while it is a game, it's not JUST a game. I'm not saying I am one of those players lucky enough to have the skill and means to play in pro circuits, far from it. That doesn't mean I should have to suffer those with no regard for their team in a team based highly competitive game. And therefor you are making the same mistake as them, feeling your individual freedom to be intentionally bad makes you ok since you are playing for yourself, when in reality you are hurting everyone on your team.

Izbiz1 votes

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Except MMR in normals works way different than in ranked, and not even close to what you are suggesting.

Are you implying that if you play poorly, your MMR won't drop???

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You're right it is a game.... that breeds a competitive nature, has a huge monetary community and is actually a career for some. So while it is a game, it's not JUST a game. I'm not saying I am one of those players lucky enough to have the skill and means to play in pro circuits, far from it. That doesn't mean I should have to suffer those with no regard for their team in a team based highly competitive game. And therefor you are making the same mistake as them, feeling your individual freedom to be intentionally bad makes you ok since you are playing for yourself, when in reality you are hurting everyone on your team.

With all due respect to all players, I play for myself and only myself. And I expect NO ONE to play for me. You know why? Because it's their game as much as it is my game.

Jesuszilla1 votes

Then you are exactly the kind of person I take issue with. And your inability to grasp how a competitive team game works only further proves the points I am trying to make.

Izbiz1 votes

And you are the exact person I take issue with. I play this game how I want to play it. No one can tell me to be competitive or not.

So stop spreading your beliefs on others, stfu, and play how you want to play. I will then play how I want to play.

Jesuszilla1 votes

Actually that's false, playing in a way that would lead to the loss of a team, knowing full well what you are doing will force a loss (I'm not talking about champion picks or roles, I am talking intentional feeding) is against the Summoner's Code, which you had to accept agreement to in order to play, and therefor you should probably read it. Just for a little enlightenment:

  1. Support Your Team

  2. Drive Constructive Feedback

  3. Enjoy Yourself, but not at Anyone Else's Expense

This is completely the opposite of what you are saying you can do because it is a game you can play your way. The very first clause of the Summoner's Code is Support your Team, and directly counters your belief that you can do what you want.

So instead of throwing around this idea that it's only for you and no one else can tell you what to do, you should remember you had to agree to play for the team before you could play the game.

Izbiz1 votes

Maybe you should read. One of the first things I said was: "It's played however the player wants to play it within the restrictions of the Summoner's Code"

Jesuszilla1 votes

And you are the exact person I take issue with. I play this game how I want to play it. No one can tell me to be competitive or not.

So stop spreading your beliefs on others, stfu, and play how you want to play. I will then play how I want to play.

Your quote shows you know nothing about the Summoner's Code other than you agree to it each patch. You should play for the team and not put yourself and your enjoyment at the expense of others enjoyment. I have the right to play draft normals in an environment conducive to more competitive play without the highly competitive nature of ranked. An environment where basic concepts of the game are followed, but the leeway of learning new lanes and champions in different roles is still open.

You want to "break the meta" with something horribly out there and play for yourself without basic communication and while learning fundamental skills of the game? Play normals or Co-Op versus AI.

You have absolutely no idea about the Summoner's Code, my grievances with the mentality I describe in my original post, or why I feel it is a problem. So please go back, take a look at the Summoner's Code.

Jesuszilla1 votes

Except MMR in normals works way different than in ranked, and not even close to what you are suggesting.

Shroom Junkie2 votes

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I will greatly disagree with you. League of Legends is a video game afterall. It's played however the player wants to play it within the restrictions of the Summoner's Code. It just means that if I'm not trying hard or I'm making bad plays, mr MMR/LP will drop and I'll play with worse people. This goes for ranked and unranked.

So what, you're supposed to ruin my game for the sake of your own fun? Play custom or premade you bum, and be more considerate of other people.

You can't make someone try their hardest. You can't make them play better. You can't tell people what champ goes in what lane. It's their game and they're entitled to play how they want.

Actually, its Riot's game, and if we're going there then its my game too and I'd rather play my game seriously instead of with some ass hole that likes to feed because "ITS JUST A GAME!"

You can't tell people what champ goes in what lane.

Malzahar doesn't go ADC. Deal with it. If you want to screw around like that do Team Builder but don't make me have to wait 20 minutes because I dodged just so you can get a faster game suit to your liking.

Aerothal1 votes

Maybe it's because you are complaining.

STOP THE WHINING.

Take the game, WIN OR LOSS, as an opportunity to better yourself.

Jesuszilla2 votes

I fail to see how giving comments on the game when obvious mistakes are being made as "whining". I think this is the flaw with most players, they think that if you make any comments on the game or other players gameplay you are whining and therefor it's negative. There is a such thing as positive feedback. Ex: The allied jungler goes deep into enemy territory without any vision and dies when he gets caught by the enemy team.... four times in a row. My comment: "It might be better to wait for more ward coverage before invading too deep." His response "Who cares, it's just normals anyway." This is not whining, it's called communication.

NuSix31 votes

Can I ask when complaining has ever changed a bad situation into a good one?

Next point, you don't want ranked like stress so you play norms and get stressed. Isn't the whole idea that when someone under-performs you don't have any LP on the line? I think you should work on not complaining in game chat in your normal games.

Looking to normal games to simulate ranked is one of the biggest mistakes I ever made in this game. Get familiar with a champ and then play ranked. Even in ranked it's just a game. Nobody is going to mail you a check if you hit Diamond or higher.

The Lord Cookie1 votes

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Stop telling other players they're playing poorly. It's only going to get you angrier, and inevitably get your chat-restricted/banned.

Here's a hint though: people only say "It's just a game" when they're losing. The fact of the matter is that no one is TRYING to lose. They're simply poor players. Play long enough and you'll recognize it.

Jesuszilla1 votes

Except at NO time did this thread have to do with raging or getting angry. It had to do with raising awareness that it's a dumb excuse and people need to recognize proactive teamwork and communication from complaining.

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