The Vayne Complaint Threads Show a Disturbing Trend

Jesuszilla·8/10/2017, 1:41:39 PM·10 votes·1,354 views

The PBE recently showed some changes for Vayne to impact her kit, both positive and negative changes that would change the distribution of power in her kit. The moment this happened, the floodworks on the forums started and tons of people who had never stepped foot onto the PBE were here to offer their two cents on why they would perma ban Vayne if these changes went live despite having no idea what the extent of the impact was.

Then the changes were completely removed from the PBE recently, and you know there will be vindication threads for all those complaint threads that were made, and people will rejoice and celebrate. But there's a disturbing trend to that I really don't like with public patch testing. And that's the idea that complaining about something rather than being rational and testing it seems to be the go to answer for people who are against the changes.

The PBE is there to test the impact of changes and see how those interactions work. Testing and seeing how things change is a vital part of League Patches and gives the developers insight into what their desired changes might look like and if they accomplish the goals they want. Game design is not an exact science, and sometimes testing the impact of seemingly bad ideas can actually lead to the correct outcome, sometimes tweaks can be made. Perhaps the problem with the healing on her ultimate would have been the amount, in which case numbers can be changed, but if the healing was problematic because it didn't fit the feel or accomplish the correct goals then it goes away.

These changes are going live inevitably, there isn't some kind of urgency for you to shout down the ideas before the game is ruined. I would NOT want League to become a game that gives in to the unwarranted forum outrage over changes that are still being tested and haven't even been cleared for implementation fully. And I really don't want vindication for people who blindly complain about changes because it gives strength to that idea and we will just have more of these types of threads as changes are posted to the PBE.

TL:DR - Stop being whiners and go test the changes before you make rage threads, because I don't want to see the forums devolve into nothing but rage threads and I really don't want to see Riot cave to complainers instead of being willing to test controversial changes that might be good for the game.

65 Comments

Ralanr8/10/2017, 1:55:56 PM11 votes

Sadly not all of us have a PBE account and want our opinions heard.

Critmaster Garen8/10/2017, 2:50:26 PM5 votes

you dont need to play these changes to understand why they went into the wrong direction. there is a thing called reason.

at the end of the day they were just flat buffs to her already existing kit. they didnt change really anything about what makes vaynes kit toxic, and improves her gameplay. it just made her stronger against certain champions and slightly weaker against others.

Armadilllo8/10/2017, 2:11:41 PM4 votes

I don't need to test something like that to know that it's not healthy for the game.

Sure I need to test them buffing the dmg on a Q or reworking an ability like they did with Alistar E but literally buffing a champion this much is simply retarded.

Very Hard Engage8/10/2017, 2:05:41 PM2 votes

riot has a long long history of putting things on the pbe, it failing hard, and then it goes through anyway.

in the end you learn riot does what it wants regardless of your opinion, it just so happened to turn out that even riot recognized 14% true damage is busted.

ChargeItDownMid8/10/2017, 2:40:54 PM2 votes

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