Instead of letting him play on my account, where he will have a plethora of champion styles to pick from, a few skins, full runes, and full masteries, he has to make a brand new account and play with very limited champs, no skins, no runes, and no masteries. Makes sense. I'm sure he is really going to take a liking to the game.
Edit: No people, I am not going to let him play ranked on my account lol. I am not sure why this would even be a thought.
Colgate Gator11 votesIf he actually is just trying the game, there's no point in him having to deal with masteries/runes yet, a 10 Champions pool a week should be more than enough for him to try out things and why are you letting him play agaisnt lvl 30 Silver/Gold people as a newbie?
Nucleophilic atk4 votesBot games broski.
Anyway, last hitting is significantly harder with less damage. It is basically like running around the game smacking each other with wet noodles. Also, most free champs are meh lol.
Destínum5 votes[{quoted}](name=Nucleophilic atk,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QLivasag,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-03-24T21:11:52.932+0000) Also, most free champs are meh lol.
You do realize this includes every champion in the game except Yorick, right?
DrCyanide2 votesYou realize that some champions only come on the free rotation once every 40 weeks or so, right? Not all champions are as favored by the free rotation as Ashe, and once you realize you don't want to play Ashe...
Destínum3 votesI don't remember a single time when at least 4 of the free rotation champions where ones I personally find interesting and/or fun to play. For a new player, this should be plenty enough for a week.
DrCyanide2 votesIt took me about 1 week to realize I hated playing melee champions. That ruled out about half the free week roster.
I spent the next several weeks bouncing back and forth between various ranged champions, thinking I'd found one that I liked, buying it, only to realize I didn't like it as much as I thought a little while later. I continued like that until I found Teemo, who I stuck with most of the way to 30. A friend of mine is doing a similar "stick to one" strategy with Poppy, who's not on the free rotation as much.
While the situation is a little different for someone starting with a friend's help, I think that the ways that you figure out what champion you want to start with could be improved.
S H A Y C 01 votesMaybe keep the free rotation, but allow a 1 time trial on every champion. Or even create a rental system, say it costs 3300 ip to buy maybe 500 to rent for one match or something and that goes towards the cost of the champion.
Nucleophilic atk2 votesLOL, +1
Narasimha3 votesHe shouldn't be worrying about last hitting. He should be worrying about things like "Oh hey, these little things hurt me. That tower hits me if nothing else is around. This is what this ability does."
Nucleophilic atk3 votesYes, the first game you play a champ you learn what their Q does lol. You move on from there xD.
Again, it is mostly just to open up champs that are considered more "noob friendly" as well as, "wow this surprise party Fiddles skin is awesome looking".
Hugh Drectum4 votes[{quoted}](name=Nucleophilic atk,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QLivasag,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-03-24T20:54:18.745+0000)
Instead of letting him play on my account, where he will have a plethora of champion styles to pick from, a few skins, full runes, and full masteries, he has to make a brand new account and play with very limited champs, no skins, no runes, and no masteries. Makes sense. I'm sure he is really going to take a liking to the game.
That falls on you, and how you teach him how to play.
THere is zero reason to even use the runes and mysteries if you can't use your champions. Since we have over 120 Champs... Maybe get off your high horse and direct your sibling to develop their own play style.
Nucleophilic atk3 votesThis doesn't even make sense to me. How am I on a high horse and directing my sibling to play the style that I want him to? I am simply giving him MORE options. How is that not letting him develop his own style of play?
I'm sorry, but I think you failed at receiving the message I was sending here.
Hugh Drectum2 votes[{quoted}](name=Nucleophilic atk,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QLivasag,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-03-24T21:31:36.628+0000)
This doesn't even make sense to me. How am I on a high horse and directing my sibling to play the style that I want him to? I am simply giving him MORE options. How is that not letting him develop his own style of play?
I'm sorry, but I think you failed at receiving the message I was sending here.
I taught my room mate how to play into Gold in 2 months and 3 weeks.
I am teaching My GF now....
Having 120 champs+ to pick from to play doesn't help anyone. ESPECIALLY A NEW PLAYER. guide your new player into a spot where they make their own choices, based on what they experience...NOT WATCH over your shoulder. If you had any idea of what YOUR talking about, you would know a person is going to learn league in their own way. But knowing basic champion information, and game play only comes from playing them.
I can watch and think LISS looks fun all day...deep down not my play style.
10 champs a week to master and memorize is a daunting task... having some KNOW IT ALL whom took the time to complain about...literally nothing, in your ear telling you what champ to play vs experiencing the WHOLE game will drive them away. Get off your horse.
Nucleophilic atk2 votesRight, because telling my brother 2 hours away "You can try to play Cait. She is pretty easy to learn for new players" is making him WATCH me play and EXPECTING him to learn from watching.
I honestly don't know how me giving a new player the option to play easier champs over hard ones is being on a high horse and bad thing.
Again, you failed at comprehending what I am telling you, even after putting it into living room language. You are obviously trolling (the other option would be too dumb to comprehend it...and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that isn't the case).
Get off your high horse that allows you to think you know everything when you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Hugh Drectum2 votes[{quoted}](name=Nucleophilic atk,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QLivasag,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-24T21:47:54.735+0000)
Right, because telling my brother 2 hours away "You can try to play Cait. She is pretty easy to learn for new players" is making him WATCH me play and EXPECTING him to learn from watching.
I honestly don't know how me giving a new player the option to play easier champs over hard ones is being on a high horse and bad thing.
Again, you failed at comprehending what I am telling you, even after putting it into living room language. You are obviously trolling (the other option would be too dumb to comprehend it...and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that isn't the case).
Get off your high horse that allows you to think you know everything when you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Or your being reluctant and making this conversation into a personal matter.
... I just found out your brother lives 2 hours away from you. CHILL OUT.
I used a term that obviously got under your skin. It seams the majority of leaguers agree that having a new playing play on a OLD account is a poor idea. Even for use against bots. They will become a accustomed to how your things are set up....
You have an AP page 100% AP... You have plenty things to learn yourself. ( AS I "I tilt ez ig...so i keep my rank under gold till last 2 months of the season" ) You should NOT allow your brother to get into habbits such as this. He should watch GOOOD PLAYERS YOU KNOW PERSONALLY...not a stream most kids get s boost then start a stream channel.
Your attitude matches your RANK... Give your brother a fair chance to not place S5 and lower. GUIDE THEM, don't teach them or force them. If a person really want to know how to play...vs assuming they know everything....THEY FIND OUT ON THEIR OWN.
Nucleophilic atk2 votesYou are actually proving your business major stupidity as you go on. First off, you ASSUMED that I lived with my brother and took shots at me before anything else was said. So I'm not sure why you are using that statement lol.
it seams the majority of leaguers agree
Yes, because you can make that claim based of the couple of people that have commented on the thread. Not too mention not a single one of them has even said "even for use against bots" since none of them commented after saying it was mostly for bot play. They were assuming it was for normals or something. Hence why nobody has made a comment of the nature after I put in the edit.
you have an AP page 100% AP
Lol, because jungling with Fiddles requires soooo much magic resist lmao.
you have plenty things to learn yourself
How in the hell does my rank effect me giving my brother more options, most of which being "noob friendly"? Please explain this to me. You bring it up, but I'm not sure how it effects anything we are talking about lol.
Not too mention, you were gold last season, like me, and are silver this season, like me. Lol, please don't bring ranked into this, especially if you are going to do it in such an unintelligent way.
Give your brother a fair chance to not place S5 and lower. GUIDE THEM, don't teach them or force them. If a person really want to know how to play...vs assuming they know everything....THEY FIND OUT ON THEIR OWN.
Are you really that unintelligent dude? I'm honestly asking. "I want to give my brother more options to play" "omg high horse silver scrub don't force them to play the style YOU want them to play". Like, how did you even past elementary school? I wasn't even going to bring up the amount of stupid grammar mistakes you have made, but the quantity surely matches your complete lack of reading comprehension.
Regardless, you are far too unintelligent to carry on a conversation with. So I will no longer be replying to your comments, seeing as they are just a bunch of rambling with no connection to my thread whatsoever.
Hugh Drectum1 votes[{quoted}](name=Nucleophilic atk,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QLivasag,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-24T22:09:21.280+0000)
You are actually proving your business major stupidity as you go on. First off, you ASSUMED that I lived with my brother and took shots at me before anything else was said. So I'm not sure why you are using that statement lol.
Yes, because you can make that claim based of the couple of people that have commented on the thread. Not too mention not a single one of them has even said "even for use against bots" since none of them commented after saying it was mostly for bot play. They were assuming it was for normals or something. Hence why nobody has made a comment of the nature after I put in the edit.
Lol, because jungling with Fiddles requires soooo much magic resist lmao.
How in the hell does my rank effect me giving my brother more options, most of which being "noob friendly"? Please explain this to me. You bring it up, but I'm not sure how it effects anything we are talking about lol.
Not too mention, you were gold last season, like me, and are silver this season, like me. Lol, please don't bring ranked into this, especially if you are going to do it in such an unintelligent way.
Are you really that unintelligent dude? I'm honestly asking. "I want to give my brother more options to play" "omg high horse silver scrub don't force them to play the style YOU want them to play". Like, how did you even past elementary school? I wasn't even going to bring up the amount of stupid grammar mistakes you have made, but the quantity surely matches your complete lack of reading comprehension.
Regardless, you are far too unintelligent to carry on a conversation with. So I will no longer be replying to your comments, seeing as they are just a bunch of rambling with no connection to my thread whatsoever.
Go re read what i said out loud...I don't feel like the big slap in the face has hit you yet.
again your talking about a point that had nothing to do with the overall argument at hand. You picked out things in my response and broke them down in an attempt to make yourself sound intelligent.
"You are actually proving your business major stupidity as you go on. "
What does that even mean? You have become so engulfed with rage towards this conversation and it not going your way its now BASH me this and BASH me that. Not once was a "SHOT FIRED ". You must have had a long day attached to your mothers breast you whinny "INDIVIDUAL". I offered you guidance and I even admitted my own short comings within my last post. Your anger is clearly forcing you into being reluctant over a fact that has not changed since the game was released.
Im going to go play with the adults...Id put you 18-20 No older bro. Age doesn't mean your ready to play with the big boys...especially those whom have shiiiiit tonz of game and life experience.
I believe they make ritalin for kids like you.
Simplicate3 votesI don't understand what's wrong with him allowing his brother more options along with cool skins. Granted the runes may be a little TOO much because that can have a negative effect on people's gameplay when they don't use them especially noobies. You seem like a highly bigoted human being who's crying over nothing here.
The guy plays in BOTS for gods sake! Having a shit ton of champions to test out and play with is pretty neat considering after a few games you have already decided what type of play style you like and start to pick champions that might fit that area.
High51 votesI don't understand what's wrong with him allowing his brother more options along with cool skins. Granted the runes may be a little TOO much because that can have a negative effect on people's gameplay when they don't use them especially noobies. You seem like a highly bigoted human being who's crying over nothing here.
The guy plays in BOTS for gods sake! Having a shit ton of champions to test out and play with is pretty neat considering after a few games you have already decided what type of play style you like and start to pick champions that might fit that area.
The same reason you don't put a 16 year old in a Ferrari. We all love to think we know everything from the beginning and that's not the case.
We learn by trying champs against the AI to get a feel for them and then trying them against human opponents. Throwing someone new in the deep end the pool is a very poor way to teach.
This entire thread is a troll.
Nucleophilic atk1 votesRight, because telling my bro, "here try this easy champ Garen against bots" is = throwing someone who has never driving a car into a Ferrari.
Your lack of intelligence makes me really sad.
Nucleophilic atk1 votesExactly. I'm glad there is some form of intelligence somewhere lol.
AJStarhiker2 votesThey don't ban an account just for playing from multiple IP locations. If that were true, I'd've been banned years ago: 2 different personal laptops at multiple locations (tried on a third, but found out it was a toaster after 1 game), I've used parents' desktop when I go home, I've used multiple computers at an Internet cafe... yeah, if it was strictly "New IP, BAN!!!", I'd be done.
Nucleophilic atk1 votesTrue. I have seen, however, plenty of people that were banned because of it. I'm sure it has a lot to do with how often you play and such. It would also be very suspicious to have 1 IP playing really poorly while another plays normal lol.
Also, it has been stated that sharing accounts is against the rules. So I'd rather not risk it lol.
Captain Aishi1 voteshey, when i play from home i play "well", but when i go to my friend's place, we drink and i play... "less well" let's say...
Angry Monster1 votesBut you understand what your doing. Rune selection, play style, ect are pretty easy to tell from straight numbers. If his bro started playing fighters all of a sudden and doing weird shit when the main account holder (as he states) stays away from melee; it be a flag. Plus there are typing patterns ect.
Wait till his bro spends RP or IP and the main holder flips out.
warpenguin5551 votesThey don't ban an account just for playing from multiple IP locations. If that were true, I'd've been banned years ago: 2 different personal laptops at multiple locations (tried on a third, but found out it was a toaster after 1 game), I've used parents' desktop when I go home, I've used multiple computers at an Internet cafe... yeah, if it was strictly "New IP, BAN!!!", I'd be done.
there is some weird system they have. they only care about ranked though
Duffkitty2 votesNot too long ago my brother got me to install and try League. So since I remember getting into League as a complete noob (Still a noob but you know what I mean.)
You may not like to hear this but it's probably best to start at ground 0. Bots are fine but if you move into PvP in duos you really will skew his perception on the difficulty of the game. I was starting to get good at bots so go into Regular mode and get crushed cause my brothers level 30 vs my level 11 gave me a higher level lane opponent. Learning support helps mitigate this a little bit. But in PvP he is best off in SoloQ or from you smurfing, possibly ARAM....
Champion pool: The Pre Level 6 Champions are DIFFERENT than the free champion rotation. Garen is included though a free champ from liking FB or Following on Twitter or something. Tristana and Alistair are also free. Don't tell him to start playing random champions you think are OP. Let him identify with the champions they enjoy but start with Garen, Ashe and maybe Lux (I loved Lux when I first started) or Ryze for Mid. He'll learn a few roles and they are relatively easy to pick up at first. When my brother would tell me "Pick this guy, he OP." and I would hate it, but then grab Poppy and LOVE it.
And in response to last hitting and the lack of Runes and Masteries... This is fine. It's important to learn these things with lesser power and grow into it. It's hard but gets easier as your skill increases as well as your level. You don't throw a 16 year old into a Lambo to learn to drive, they'll spend all day looking for the windshield wiper switch. You give them a Corolla and let them grow into a Lambo.
LilMsCantBeWrong1 votesHe's in luck then, Garen is also on free rotation this week. Problem solved :)
Nucleophilic atk1 votesGaren no free week for me? Unless it hasn't updated for me yet lol?
King Odin1 votesEveryone had to start at the start and here we are still playing 1-4 years later, if we took a liking to the game I don't see why he won't starting off.
Nucleophilic atk1 votesThis is true. Personally, I didn't, though. I hated it until my friend allowed me to do the same thing I am talking about. Only I was over his house when he let me play, so rito couldn't pull the whole "different IP and different location" card. If I didn't go play with him, I wouldn't have liked the game or played it lol. I do get where you're coming from, though.
S H A Y C 01 votesI am not entirely sure where you are going here. Yes, new players have to make new accounts. This is nothing new in the history of gaming, so...??????? What exactly are we discussing here, it seems we've pretty much covered it.
Nucleophilic atk1 votesI'm suggesting that my brother should be allowed to play a bot game on my account with a noob friendly champ so he can see if he likes the game. Thought that was pretty self explanatory if you read it.
S H A Y C 01 votesno...no it wasnt. And even if you are suggesting it..why not just suggest it to your brother? what is the point of posting it here?
Aerothal1 votes[{quoted}](name=Nucleophilic atk,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QLivasag,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-03-24T20:54:18.745+0000)
Instead of letting him play on my account, where he will have a plethora of champion styles to pick from, a few skins, full runes, and full masteries, he has to make a brand new account and play with very limited champs, no skins, no runes, and no masteries. Makes sense. I'm sure he is really going to take a liking to the game.
Edit: No people, I am not going to let him play ranked on my account lol. I am not sure why this would even be a thought.
so wait, you are admitting to Violating the Terms of Use according to III C in the http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse
it clearly states: "C. Login Credentials. In creating an Account, you will be required to select a unique username and password (collectively, “Login Credentials”), which you will use each time you access the Game. You may not share your Account with anyone other than as expressly set forth herein, and you are entirely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Login Credentials and for any and all activities (including purchases and charges, as applicable) that are conducted through your Account. Please notify Riot Games immediately if you become aware of any breach of security, including any loss, theft or unauthorized disclosure of your Login Credentials."
When you installed the game you agreed to this. If you violate it Riot can just perma your account.
If you really want to teach your brother the game, level a smurf and play botgames together. Buy him the champ you think suits his way to play/personality best and teach him how to play it / build paths and for the love of god, teach him reactive build paths. You do Him and Yourself no favors by violating ToS
Nucleophilic atk1 votesWhat are you even talking about dude? Where did I say I let him do it? I clearly said "instead of letting him".
How am I admitting to violation the terms of use? Please explain how me questioning why he can't do it means I am letting him do it. Do you even read before you go off rambling about things?
You want to bold things like I can't read it myself, when it is you that cannot read.
Aerothal1 votes[{quoted}](name=Nucleophilic atk,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QLivasag,comment-id=00130000,timestamp=2015-03-25T16:29:23.604+0000)
What are you even talking about dude? Where did I say I let him do it? I clearly said "instead of letting him".
How am I admitting to violation the terms of use? Please explain how me questioning why he can't do it means I am letting him do it. Do you even read before you go off rambling about things?
You want to bold things like I can't read it myself, when it is you that cannot read.
man you are defensive. guilty conscience? damage control?
:P
MrL0stzOrZ1 votesman you are defensive. guilty conscience? damage control?
:P
Read through the conversations he has been apart of. They start out seamlessly harmless. As they continue and he doesn't have it go his way he turns on the after burners or RAGER DEFENSE.
I posted yesterday, it must have gone unnoticed since he didn't respond. Anything with a valid point to be made, he ignores as well.
Maybe hes in the mental institution. I mean he does live 2 hours away from his brother?
Nucleophilic atk1 votes"gone unnoticed since he didn't respond" "maybe he's in a mental institution"
Yes, I am too dumb to notice your comment since you replied to someone else instead of me. #dipshit.
I have had conversations with plenty of people without "rager defense", except when people aren't intelligent enough to read. Which was the case with this fella and the last.
End you1 votes[{quoted}](name=Nucleophilic atk,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QLivasag,comment-id=00130000000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-25T20:55:49.405+0000)
"gone unnoticed since he didn't respond" "maybe he's in a mental institution"
Yes, I am too dumb to notice your comment since you replied to someone else instead of me. #dipshit.
I have had conversations with plenty of people without "rager defense", except when people aren't intelligent enough to read. Which was the case with this fella and the last.
Nigga Just "#" Time to get FB ghetto now.
we getting the twatter in here?
I am out, that fact you # TAGGED puts you tiers below any ACTUAL human being. Enjoy your instant gratification websites...I now totally understand why YOU act the way you do.
Ever been outside without your phone to take a picture of what your doing to post online? Didnt think so mr HASHTAG
Nucleophilic atk1 votes[{quoted}](name=End you,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QLivasag,comment-id=001300000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-25T20:59:34.217+0000)
Ever been outside without your phone to take a picture of what your doing to post online? Didnt think so mr HASHTAG
lol wut
lol, you also called me nigga. LOL
warpenguin5551 votesi would let him try out some of your champions, try to let him get a grip on what role he likes and if he even likes the game, then if he does hopefully he would have a grip on what roles and champions he wants to focus on learning. but yes he should eventually make his own account
Nucleophilic atk1 votesThat is what I wanted to let him do. Rito doesn't allow this and calls it "account sharing" lol.
warpenguin5551 votesthats pretty dumb imo
Nucleophilic atk1 votesTis my point lol.
Raxicor1 votesWell its how you started the game, right? There's a learning curve to MOBAs and your brother will have to take the small beginner steps to get to the better stuff later. That's why the leveling system exists, so that people can learn the game mechanics.
PubgamerAU1 votesYeah I'd rather not give him champions like Kalista or Riven when he's new to the game. Let him stick to Ashe :)
Nucleophilic atk1 votesYup :)