I just had a Support Zyra apologize about 5 times for killing Draven once.

Blade of Justic··118 votes·6,186 views

What is this support mentality and who keeps telling them that they should feel bad for getting A SINGLE KILL?

Had to tell them it was alright about 3 times before they accepted it.

Seriously, who yells at their co-laner over one kill?

178 Comments

5000000000000000101 votes

The fact that support players like that exist should explain how toxic some ADC players can be.

Shrapnel Shrap39 votes

I play a LOT of support. I'll get adc's that'll either 1. Go AFK 2. --Edited since it was moderated: ADC would tell me to go do terrible things to myself or that I am terrible at the game etc. 3. Go top lane after taking a kill.

Most of the time they would of either died or the enemy champ would of gotten away. Oh I'm sorry I took one kill, ruining your game even though I zoned their ADC putting you 20+ farm ahead.

They're the same people who don't use their FREE ward.

Anidan12 votes

I really have no words to describe how sorry I am that you run into so many douchebag ADCs.

As an ADC main myself, I will gladly waylay them for you if you but point the way. Unless you steal my kill, in which case I guess he was waylaid by you. Well done, if so!

DazedOnlooker8 votes

Likewise, I remember one time back when i was still new to league, i was playing Sona sup with an ADC MF, who AFK'd for 5mins after i "Let her die".

VayneJanna Goes Ham on my ADC. MissFortune Walks 3 paces east before planting herself in that spot. Did not Kite after and proceeded to auto and "Make it Rain" at point blank range.

Sona Focused their ADC, Heals first, then Ults. MissFortune Did not run despite seeing that i stunned them, now has like 20hp. Vayne Autos once. MissFortune Dies. Sona My Heal is still on CD, but i was healthy enough to finish off their ADC, and got the kill. Sona "Sry you died, why didn't you run?." MissFortune "Fk you!!, why u only cast Ult when i'm about to die??!." Her summoner 4 was still up.... Sona "..........sorry" Are you fking kidding me?. MissFortune A Summoner has disconnected Azir "What an a**"

This KS issue also carries to other roles as well (coughjunglercough)

Sejuani Goes to Gank Mid for Heimerdinger who was clearly struggling

Sejuani Stuns twice and proceeds to run around in circles to make sure Heim would "secure the kill" before leaving

Heimerdinger Zed dueling

Heimerdinger Looks to me like he's losing.......oh no

Sejuani Panics and takes the kill JUST after Heim dies.. Heimerdinger "OMG fking KS!!!!"

Sejuani "Derp." Clears enemy minions from his lane, push to enemy turret and proceeds to return to the jungle

^^This happened 3 times before the game ended. We still won though, but Heim would not let it go that i "KS'd" him, they were accidents and after the 3rd time i just stopped ganking his lane he was so far ahead despite me taking his kills, and i didn't want to get yelled at again. like holy fk our team got the kill we are winning and now i'm a god tank for us..get over it.

Drak Pinebreaker12 votes

So incredibly true. I play almost exclusively as Support and have had some pretty hardcore threats after snagging a kill in lane.

A few nights ago I was Thresh with a Vayne who constantly talked about "being Gosu" (Gosu has been demoted to high silver, apparently) and how "dank" his late game was going to be.

I hook the enemy Annie support who had been badly positioned for the entire laning phase. She was alone as we had just forced her lane partner Draven back to base with constant AA poke from both of us.

I do the ol' hook-flay into Vayne but Annie is able to get her stun combo off only hitting the Vayne. Brought Vayne down to ~10% HP, so I autoed once or twice and killed Annie, afraid that one more spell would net Annie a kill.

Cue a bunch of insults telling me that I am terrible and need to "learn my place" as support. Also mentioned that Draven would now win the lane (because somehow he benefited from this as he was walking back to lane?) and we should surrender immediately.

We still won the game. Vayne went like 18/3 or something, because, you know, Vayne doing Vayne things.

Clype6 votes

ADCs like that are completely ridiculous. I mained support when i started playing LOL and just recently started playing ADC. Now whenever my support gets a kill i make sure to tell them gj because a good rapport between support and ADC wins games more often than flaming them.

Also, its nice to be nice haha.

Ralanr3 votes

Let's just rework marksmen. Cause I'm tired of hearing stories about ADC's cussing out the role that keeps them alive.

I'd rather hear about marksman nerfs/op instead of these horror stories.

Only Play Darius30 votes

Vayne is popular right now and we all know how her players act.

Also a Zyra "support" can carry the game, so what if she takes some kills?

Blade of Justic12 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=OvwNlYx7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-09-11T01:08:01.778+0000)

Vayne is popular right now and we all know how her players act.

Also a Zyra "support" can carry the game, so what if she takes some kills?

I was playing Lucian against a Thresh and Draven.

Zyra was my support and Draven went diving in at me. So Zyra rooted (no pun intended) him and used her ult while I fired on him.

She then got the kill and started apologizing.

If a support gets fed, they're able to lock down an entire team so that not just the ADC gets kills but everyone does.

Ralanr3 votes

Sometimes CC is more important than damage.

I mean there are 2 other lanes and a jungler that can provide the damage.

Archon X22 votes

Generally if I take a kill during laning phase I'll apologize once because it's polite. If it's a large teamfight well then fucking deal.

Solari Fortune3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Archon X,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=OvwNlYx7,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-09-11T01:14:05.283+0000)

Generally if I take a kill during laning phase I'll apologize once because it's polite. If it's a large teamfight well then fucking deal.

I once got a triple in a team fight as support Sona, my jungler still got mad at me cause I had the abilitiy to press my abilites I guess, even though I kept him barely alive. Why must supports be treated like dirt? :(

DazedOnlooker8 votes

Best thing ever happened to me the other day, while i was supporting as Lulu .

Team Fight starts, and it got intense

Chogath I Successfully Peeled a tilted Arcade Riven off of him

Yasuo I Made his ult worthless by ulting my jungler Poppy, and he got deleted shortly after

10sec later

Lulu Double Kill!!

Chogath "TY for the support lulu <3" Viktor "GJ lulu!"

End Game

+4 Teamwork +2 Honorable Opponent

Good games like this are hard to come by.

MegamanEXE7915 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blade of Justic,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=OvwNlYx7,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-11T01:06:52.642+0000)

Seriously, who yells at their co-laner over one kill?

Vayne

KingWanahakalugi8 votes

Vayne changes people. My friend was playing her yesterday. We made a great play, and had 3 kills that had to be secured in one fight. The roaming mid took the strangler that left early. I took one ulting to lock them under turret. The third was taken by Rengar. Vayne was in range and about to auto when it happened. The rage my friend let loose was relentless. He just got 3 assists. Rengar was fighting the whole time too. I can understand if he had come over JUST to steal it, but he was in the whole fight. He's still my friend, and I told him to cut it out, but he didn't let up all game even though I got him fed to 17/2/3. Vayne breeds toxicity. He isn't that way on any other champ.

Bandit King Z3 votes

Toxicity breeds Toxicity. You friend may sadly have been toxic the whole time. Just waiting to erupt.

KingWanahakalugi2 votes

Nah I play with him at least 3 nights a week and I know him irl. Never seen him as toxic until he decided to start learning how to play Vayne.

Ralanr2 votes

You talk to him about it? He's not truly toxic if he knows it was toxic.

Or he is and ignorant toxic people are worse.

KingWanahakalugi2 votes

I call him on it if I catch it. Most of the time I'm in call with him and I'm not paying attention to chat. And on occasion we'll play a normal and he'll let me know he's going to let loose in the normal, so he doesn't feel the urge to rage when we start ranked games. Surprisingly, he's never been chat restricted.

Only Play Darius2 votes

Also Draven

It's not good but at least he has a legitimate reason to be angry about KS.

KingWanahakalugi7 votes

I'm a support main. Some ADC's can be very toxic. Especially after I secured a kill that I didn't think they had any chance at getting. I've had ADC's start to roam after I've taken a kill. They say, "You got the kill, YOU be the carry I'm going to another lane since you aren't going to support." It's awful sometimes. It's worse if you freeze lane though and actually take a couple cs while the ADC backed or is walking back to lane with no chance at last hitting the minion themselves. Some ADC mains I play with regularly think they're little gods, and everyone should bow to them and do whatever they can to make sure THEY have a great game. As a support, yes I'm here to protect you and get you fed, but if something happens by accident or I take something you can't possibly get. JUST STOP RAGING. Unfortunately life as a support is often thankless and full of blame for losses, but I still keep playing on.

ChaosThief1 votes

My question to you and other support mains: How the hell do you put up with this?

KingWanahakalugi1 votes

I takes a strong person to main support. If I'm playing ranked /muteall works pretty well. Otherwise, you just shake it off and play the role to the best of your ability. Personally, I love getting the carry fed as all hell and watching him one shot the entire team for a penta. I never get any credit. I often get yelled at if I land a snare on the tank who walked into it to protect his carries. The key is simply not caring whether or not you get yelled at, and still having fun with the game.

ihaveapotion5 votes

its the doctrine, brainwashing etc, people thinking you have to perform to the standard of lcs pro headset team trained nolife teams to be accepted into the glorious positive community of league of legends. thank riot for it.

ihaveapotion8 votes

Also i lol at people crying ks, only one response possible to them: "yes, yes, kill secure." (not that you should go out of your way to get the kill instead of the ad, it just depends on so many situations)

Steelflame4 votes

My rule of thumb is "Was it in any way a contested kill where had you not done what you had done it could have cost me my life or let them escape? I don't give a single flying -- who got it. Was it a 100% no matter what, there was no way I could NOT get it, kill? Then I might be irritable a little bit, but I'll deal. Did you go and blow multiple major spells to "secure" a kill I already had a 100% chance of getting, putting a large amount of valuable stuff on CD, just so you could get it? NOW I am mad at you."

Shut up Ordis4 votes

I don't know how many times I get the dreaded "..." and it really doesn't help. I still think of Sky William's reasons why he hates ADC mains and how it's still so accurate.

Metalrichdog4 votes

I had a Blitz take 5 of my kills Draven (I was 1/3/7[Only got a kill when the enemy team tried to invade level 1] at the end of the game because we couldn't fight against a something like 7/1/8 Garen which caused us to surrender) and I didn't even down talk him in the slightest. Heck, even for a champion who's passive is massively reliant on getting kills, I can't really say that a person should be aggravated if the support takes kills. Let me ask one thing: would you have even gotten any gold for taking down that enemy if you didn't have your support there?

Actually xPeke3 votes

1-3 kses in lane is no huge deal, ill just farm while they are respawning

4-10 kses when im like "bro i need dem kills let me have some"

10+ well, thats just annoying.

In general i never respond very toxic to KS, when i ight real hard for a kill and someone just steals it im like "seriously.." but i never start insulting.

Raiku Kawisa3 votes

Its Draven, it doesn't matter how he does, so long as he does. And i swear some carries forget that supports have abilties that deal damage as well... Can't count the number of times I have gotten kills with Braum's Q. It hurts!

Hawkefire3 votes

The only time, and I do mean only time I every get annoyed with my support getting a kill instead of me is when I am playing as Draven and generally I am annoyed due to specific circumstances in the way the support got the kill.

And even then, I generally don't really care, so long as the enemy dies it was all worth to me.

ahferroin72 votes

Sadly, a very large number of people. I have to agree though, if I'm playing ADC and you're my support, I don't care if you get even 1/3 of the kills, as long as I get the assist if I'm there. Conversely, if I'm playing support, and there is no way that it is possible for you to get the kill without you dying, I will do everything in my power to make sure they die, even if it means that I take the kill.

BIAKaboose2 votes

So just as a little view into what it is to be a support. I mained Braum for a while in ranked because I just like Braum, he's a pretty nice guy. First game I have a Sivir ADC who was actually rather pleasant, at one point I used E to soak damage from a creep wave of like 18 creeps or something ridiculous while my ADC walked back to lane and I didn't take a single creep, just soaked every hit so she could have all of it and grow up to be big and strong. She was really appreciative and at various points in the game was complimenting me in all chat even gasp. Next game I have an Ezreal ADC, I do the same thing, he gets back to lane and starts hitting the creeps at random, he kept missing them because he was typing in chat "What the actual fuck Braum, why were you just standing there getting hit, you just cost us the lane, they're going to just murder you now and you're going to feed" I was at 3/4 HP afterwards, I had a whopping 4 biscuits in my inventory, and with that and base regen was full HP by the time anybody showed up. The enemy ADC flashed away as Ezreal blinked in and missed quite literally everything, Q, W, ult, EVERYTHING and was out of auto range, so I flashed in and hit her with Q getting the kill, immediately in /all chat "GG, report this trash fucking Braum, taking my kills"

You get one of three ADCs as a support. Ezreal The rager: Gets pissed at literally everything you do and spam pings the entire game, you could have 18 wards on the map and be force feeding him HP the moment he gets scratched and he'd bitch at you for not diving the enemy turret so he could get a kill and promptly get you both killed. Vayne The mute: Says nothing the entire game, doesn't actually mute you, is just completely silent the entire game, doesn't even ping. [404 error: player not found] The actual decent human being: Is akin to a unicorn, you think they exist, and occasionally you'll see one from a distance, but you don't actually remember how high you were at the time so it could have been a trick of the mind.

Jokes aside, it is seriously rare to get an ADC who isn't either completely silent all game or an entitled little shit who thinks everything should be given to them on a silver platter because you only exist to ward for them and keep people away from them until they want a kill. ADC is on average the most toxic role in the entire game, second on the list is mid lane, followed by jungler. ADCs are just used to being pampered and protected all game so when it doesn't go according to plan they snap, and junglers can't really do much if their team gets trashed all game, I dunno why mid laners are ass holes, they just kind of are most of the time. I spent the majority of most games trying to get my team to stop flaming at each other more so than actually playing the game, one game I had someone flaming our top laner saying he was "Just a gold 3 scrub who doesn't know anything about the game" while I was the Bronze 2 support that had been saving his ass all game long when he made stupid decisions.

Verxint2 votes

This is one thing that's nice about DotA - nobody complains if the support is getting fed. A fed Lich or Rasta will dominate a game if he starts to snowball, and give so much room for your team to farm up and make picks.

Lugg2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blade of Justic,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=OvwNlYx7,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-11T01:06:52.642+0000)

Seriously, who yells at their co-laner over one kill?

I've had ADCs who literally start feeding if you accidentally get one KS.

Yormaughm2 votes

Every time I get an ADC who insults me as the support in any way, tells me I'm bad, blames me for them dying, I mute them, leave their lane and go support someone else. I don't agree with the entitled mindset that some ADCs have where the support is there just for them, and they're the only person on the team who can possibly carry. The support supports the entire team and the only reason they go bot lane is because 99% of the time the enemy team goes duo bot as well. If the ADC is so much better than me, and I'm to blame for every mistake, then they can 2 v 1 with no problem right? Oh and if you're being toxic to me because you overextend and got yourself killed and that's somehow my fault -- well have fun learning how to play safe under tower once I leave the lane. I swear some ADCs don't realize that they need to know how to do this cause you can't go hyper aggressive in every matchup. You hate it? Tough, I'm teaching you how to be a better player. And if you AFK or feed instead, have fun getting reported.

It's been my experience that the moment one person on your team starts tilting and typing more than playing your game is doomed anyway, but hey sometimes I get someone else fed and we win anyway.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

You don' agree with the entitled mindset that until the lanephase is over, you're the adc's bitch and you called that role?

Wow. I guess forcing an ally to fight 2v1 in any situation is just okay now.

UPfreely2 votes

I always feel so bad for dravens as zyra, I take almost every kill in lane because they cant seem to last hit champions.

Only Play Darius3 votes

{quoted}

I always feel so bad for dravens as zyra, I take almost every kill in lane** because they cant seem to last hit champions.**

Maybe they have a hard time doing this because they have an AP carry in their lane lol

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Here's the thing, Justic:

Even if a support doesn't know it, getting one kill hurts everyone. They know that almost instinctively. The support mains who should know, know that as you rack up assists the mount of gold you get from assists increases.

That's reset if you get even one kill.

BIAKaboose3 votes

Getting one kill when before there would be no kill is a net gain for the team, getting a kill on accident trying to keep your carry alive is a net gain because the enemy team gets no gold out of it. Yes, 1 kill resets you assist gold gain, but getting something or keeping the enemy team from getting something is still a benefit to your team overall no matter who gets the kill.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Getting one kill when your ADC was well within range and ability to get it means you made a mistake. It's kinda like kiling the dragon when your jungler needed the five stacks and was right there ready to smite.

Vekkna2 votes

They get stacks for the takedown, not the killing blow.

BIAKaboose2 votes

Again, if nobody could have gotten the kill you might as well take it because otherwise nothing is gained. If your ADC has just used everything including their auto and the enemy ADC as well as yours has a sliver of health but the enemy ADC will attack first, take the kill, save a life, it is better for more of the gold to go on a support than for your ADC to die and you get the kill anyway. There are situations as a support where getting the kill is more beneficial than not hitting them for the sake of not "KSing".

Bladeworked1 votes

I hate to be that one guy, but you're using 'singular' wrong. Just stick with single.

Also, I play a lot of Zyra and when I play her as supp, it comes with the notion that there will be kses because my plants have a mind of their own. So the ADCs understand this and they don't raise hell when I get the kill instead of them.

Pro tip: don't use big words if you don't know what they mean.

P.S. I'm an English major and I cringed on the inside when I read your post.

PROJECT Bear2 votes

{quoted}

I hate to be that one guy, but you're using 'singular' wrong. Just stick with single.

Also, I play a lot of Zyra and when I play her as supp, it comes with the notion that there will be kses because my plants have a mind of their own. So the ADCs understand this and they don't raise hell when I get the kill instead of them.

Pro tip: don't use big words if you don't know what they mean.

P.S. I'm an English major and I cringed on the inside when I read your post.

since words are important to you (nothing wrong with that, words are important), then please don't say ks. it's enabling a victim mentality for adcs, which automatically assume you stole a kill even if they were dead, or you killed because the soon-to-be-killed was getting away with it

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

It is frustrating if you are playing draven and the kill is free (i.e. they are cced and out of position). Draven's passive can win or lose his team/him the game. Otherwise it doesn't really matter. But the draven passive is a pretty huge swing.

SlampieceHawke2 votes

Yeah or when all it takes is one auto for you to finish off the enemy champ as Draven and cash in a boatload, yet shit for brains jerk face Garen comes in DEMACIAAAA WHOAAA OH OH OH DERP and ults him. ULTS THE ENEMY WHO HAD LIKE 100HP left.

Only Play Darius2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Slampiece Hawke,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=OvwNlYx7,comment-id=00490000,timestamp=2015-09-12T04:28:00.858+0000)

Yeah or when all it takes is one auto for you to finish off the enemy champ as Draven and cash in a boatload, yet shit for brains jerk face Garen comes in DEMACIAAAA WHOAAA OH OH OH DERP and ults him. ULTS THE ENEMY WHO HAD LIKE 100HP left.

Or when Draven's own brother Darius does what he does best and presses R on anyone below 400 HP because he has a poorly designed ult that encourages him to KS everything in sight lol

Only Play Darius2 votes

{quoted}

Draven's passive can win or lose his team/him the game.

Got that right god damn. When Draven gets fed, he gets F.E.D. Like holy shit give him a couple too many kills early on and he will kill a squishy with 2 axes like damn.

More from [ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous

More by Blade of Justic