Surprise surprise, Riot is donating to LGBT

slippykitten··7 votes·1,403 views

I'm sure to garner multitudes of downvotes as well as have this closed down by riot, but it still needs to be said.

The public pandering "try to do what is nice" nonsense doesn't fool me for one. If you honestly think Riot chose that "charity" (i put that in quotes because the money goes mostly to salaries of their employees, which technically makes it a non-profit, not a charity, but w/e) for any other reason than the publicity that goes along with helping the LGBT community, then you're nuts.

I'm not saying the cause of a suicide prevention hotline for youth is bad, of course those exist in many other facets not tied directly to LGBT, but i guess teen suicide is only relevant if your LGBT. I see no statistics that illustrate how many people they actually help, or if anything they do is a benefit. How many suicides were avoided? How many people even called the hotline? Who knows.

You know what i do know? That i personally have three different friends who have lost a child to childhood cancer, but they don't garner nearly as much publicity, so who cares. People are dying in greater raw numbers and demographic numbers, with actual scientific cures that could be found if we would only focus on them instead.

If you think a billion dollar company donated 31k to an LGBT organization out of the goodness of their hearts, go find the common sense you lost years ago. They did it for the applause, and they did it with what is pennies to them. You applaud because you were told that the greatest injustice of our generation is LGBT bullying, and you will downvote me because nobody is allowed to push back against the agenda.

When i talk to my buddy who's 3 year old daughter is battling cancer, ill let him know that maybe someone would care if she was gay.

23 Comments

TheSequelsRBad4 votes

I upvoted you, and will face the wall of downvotes with you by posting this comment.

4nth0l0gy4 votes

There are lots of things, important things, wrong with the world. Any and all support to combat those problems is support well given. Just because you know three people who died of cancer doesn't invalidate, for example, the three people I knew who committed suicide primarily because of homophobia.

31K is 'small' on the scale of a billion-dollar company, but it's something. Even if the attention is garnering more fans (I'm pretty sure LGBTQ supporters don't suddenly change their videogame preferences over monetary donations though), I don't think a beneficial, charitable donation should be frowned upon for a bit of potential advertising.

Also, you're probably a homophobe.

Edit**: Riot has run charity for cancer before, as shown here http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2090628

Also, many of the top-donated-to charities in the U.S. are cancer research or support funds. They're not lacking.

SmokedAlmonds3 votes

[{quoted}](name=CC Shepherd,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=KBrttPhY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-06-13T05:14:15.709+0000)

There are lots of things, important things, wrong with the world. Any and all support to combat those problems is support well given. Just because you know three people who died of cancer doesn't invalidate, for example, the three people I knew who committed suicide primarily because of homophobia.

31K is 'small' on the scale of a billion-dollar company, but it's something. Even if the attention is garnering more fans (I'm pretty sure LGBTQ supporters don't suddenly change their videogame preferences over monetary donations though), I don't think a beneficial, charitable donation should be frowned upon for a bit of potential advertising.

Also, you're probably a homophobe.

This x 1000.

Help is help. Who cares what their motivations are. A dollar from someone donating for selfish reasons spends the same as a dollar from a saint. By the OPs logic we should forget about cancer and focus on malaria and clean drinking water. Because according the the OP, if it doesn't kill the most people it shouldn't get anything.

LGBTQ Charities: the only charities people are allowed to hate.

slippykitten2 votes

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This x 1000.

Help is help. Who cares what their motivations are. A dollar from someone donating for selfish reasons spends the same as a dollar from a saint. By the OPs logic we should forget about cancer and focus on malaria and clean drinking water. Because according the the OP, if it doesn't kill the most people it shouldn't get anything.

LGBTQ Charities: the only charities people are allowed to hate.

All i can say is, you should learn the difference between a non-profit and a charity. Giving money that pays peoples salaries to sit next to a phone is not a charity.

SmokedAlmonds2 votes

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All i can say is, you should learn the difference between a non-profit and a charity. Giving money that pays peoples salaries to sit next to a phone is not a charity.

its an unimportant distinction here. It is a cause they care about. Why anyone would ever chastise someone for that is beyond me.

V002 votes

Irrelevant. I wont down vote your original post because its your opinion and obviously you should be entitled to it. Having said that, I feel compelled to ask why you care? We play league because we like the game, not because it makes the world a better place. We pay Riot $$ because they make skins that make us look more bad ass than we really are or somehow otherwise increase the enjoyment of the game for us when we play it. At that point the transaction is completed. You got what you paid for. As long as Riot is pocketing enough of that $$ to be able to continue running the game/providing necessary services to its customers, why do you care what they do with their disposable income? It's not your money to spend anymore. Mind your own business and get over it.

I would have more issue with Riot if they were advertising everywhere that they were supporting a cause, but behind the scenes had really only donated $10 to it. My issue with that scenario would have been with the deception involved, but they aren't waving around a LGBT flag in plain sight everywhere I look, so why should I care how much/little they have actually given to LGBT related stuff?

slippykitten1 votes

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Irrelevant. I wont down vote your original post because its your opinion and obviously you should be entitled to it. Having said that, I feel compelled to ask why you care? We play league because we like the game, not because it makes the world a better place. We pay Riot $$ because they make skins that make us look more bad ass than we really are or somehow otherwise increase the enjoyment of the game for us when we play it. At that point the transaction is completed. You got what you paid for. As long as Riot is pocketing enough of that $$ to be able to continue running the game/providing necessary services to its customers, why do you care what they do with their disposable income? It's not your money to spend anymore. Mind your own business and get over it.

I would have more issue with Riot if they were advertising everywhere that they were supporting a cause, but behind the scenes had really only donated $10 to it. My issue with that scenario would have been with the deception involved, but they aren't waving around a LGBT flag in plain sight everywhere I look, so why should I care how much/little they have actually given to LGBT related stuff?

But that is exactly what they are doing.... They put it on their front page that they are "supporting" this worthy cause, simply for the PR. They chose an LGBT cause for the PR, they gave money for the PR, and they didn't even bother to donate anything substantial.

V001 votes

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But that is exactly what they are doing.... They put it on their front page that they are "supporting" this worthy cause...

Maybe I'm just blind then? I browse the league website daily and I've never noticed anything about it anywhere previously. Now that you've made such a big deal about it I've actively gone back and looked specifically for it and I still don't see any mention of it on the website or on the game client. I'm starting to feel like I'm being trolled...

If I have to hunt that hard for evidence of your claim and still can't find it, then its not the blatant flag waving to draw attention to it that I referred to in my first response (mentioning that they sponsor it at the beginning of every LCS broadcast would have been a good example of something like that). Either way, it's still their money to spend and none of our business what they do with it.

slippykitten1 votes

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Maybe I'm just blind then? I browse the league website daily and I've never noticed anything about it anywhere previously. Now that you've made such a big deal about it I've actively gone back and looked specifically for it and I still don't see any mention of it on the website or on the game client. I'm starting to feel like I'm being trolled...

If I have to hunt that hard for evidence of your claim and still can't find it, then its not the blatant flag waving to draw attention to it that I referred to in my first response (mentioning that they sponsor it at the beginning of every LCS broadcast would have been a good example of something like that). Either way, it's still their money to spend and none of our business what they do with it.

http://na.lolesports.com/articles/donating-2014-lcs-fines-good-cause

Right there on their home page, i guess you are blind?

slippykitten2 votes

[{quoted}](name=CC Shepherd,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=KBrttPhY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-06-13T05:14:15.709+0000)

There are lots of things, important things, wrong with the world. Any and all support to combat those problems is support well given. Just because you know three people who died of cancer doesn't invalidate, for example, the three people I knew who committed suicide primarily because of homophobia.

31K is 'small' on the scale of a billion-dollar company, but it's something. Even if the attention is garnering more fans (I'm pretty sure LGBTQ supporters don't suddenly change their videogame preferences over monetary donations though), I don't think a beneficial, charitable donation should be frowned upon for a bit of potential advertising.

Also, you're probably a homophobe.

Edit**: Riot has run charity for cancer before, as shown here http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2090628

Also, many of the top-donated-to charities in the U.S. are cancer research or support funds. They're not lacking.

I must be a homophobe (afraid of gay people) because i think money should be donated to scientific research that can be verified for people dying of actual issues instead of paying salaries to unverified LGBT "charities" that may or may not actually do anything at all.

Of course, because anytime you question the agenda, or criticize LGBT in any way, you must certainly be a homophobe, its the catch all rebuttal to any argument.

Shroom Junkie4 votes

This is my answer to LGBT: I feel like a black guy. What? No, I'm a white guy. What do you mean then I can't be black? I feel black, I must be black. Science? Science says anatomy, science says I'm white, science says I have a penis, and therefore I cannot be black nor a female nor both. But y'know what fuck science I'm black.

sp4413 votes

Oh no, they didn't help people you care about, they're such assholes.

slippykitten1 votes

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Oh no, they didn't help people you care about, they're such assholes.

Who have they actually helped at all? Is there a scientific treatment or cure they can offer suicidal LGBT? Are LGBT less suicidal because of them? Or does asking those questions just make me a homophobe?

Suffocation2 votes

I have HIV, i'm not complaining about the fact they don't give money for an organization which fight HIV, because there are too much problems in the world, you can't only think about you and what happens juste around you. I'm just happy to see people try to change the world, even if it won't help me, I know it'll help lot of people. The 31K donation is something really good but here Riot speaks about LBGT community, and by this way they make people think about Gay people, because there is too much hate against them, for something they didn't choose but also for something that doesn't affect your life. My best friend is gay, and i don't five a fck, it's my friend. But I know some of gay ppl are alone, bullied everyday at school, at home and hate there life, so YES i think helping LGBT community is a much import as an organization which fight cancer, because anyway, it try to keep everyone alive.

(Sorry If I speak english Badly, not my native language but I really wanted to answer to this post)

Strawberrycocoa2 votes

Nobody does anything out of pure goodness of their heart. This is true of corporations and it is true of individuals.

WinXOfPower2 votes

homophobe alert!

ElysMustache1 votes

LGBT need help. Helping them is good. Promoting sexual perversion is bad. If there is a charity that helps LGBT people without promoting sexual perversion, then that sounds good to me.

I don't know if the TREVOR project is good. Frankly, I'm not going to spend any time finding out. I am not personally going to give them any money, because I have plenty of good things to do with my money already.

I find it strange that a company like Riot would choose this particular charity, being that it is so specific targeted, and would at first glance seem to be strongly political in nature. Or socially volatile, if you prefer that to political.

If that's what Riot wants to do, I won't hold it against them. Not because I agree or think it is okay, but because applying that level of judgement to every company in my life would consume all my time and leave me with no one to do business with.

Raja Chachki1 votes

Actually cancer research funding has had a lot more publicity in the past, it is a recent phenomenon where everyone is donating to help the LGBT community. And it is absolutely unfair to compare these two things, cancer, and teen suicide due to bullying. Cancer is a disease, incurable at the moment, and no amount of funding will fix the issue with a snap of the fingers. However, getting help to depressed children over bullying about their sexual orientation is fixable, and they can be saved immediately. These two problems are not easily fixed, but Riot is not showing "favoritism" by helping the LGBT community over the cancer community(which they actually have donated to before). Also, let us not forget that us, humans, made this LGBT suicide stuff a problem, Riot wouldn't have to fund fixing it if humans actually had a heart (just putting that out there, something to think about).

slippykitten1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hudson Gaga,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=KBrttPhY,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-06-13T19:03:11.261+0000)

Actually cancer research funding has had a lot more publicity in the past, it is a recent phenomenon where everyone is donating to help the LGBT community. And it is absolutely unfair to compare these two things, cancer, and teen suicide due to bullying. Cancer is a disease, incurable at the moment, and no amount of funding will fix the issue with a snap of the fingers. However, getting help to depressed children over bullying about their sexual orientation is fixable, and they can be saved immediately. These two problems are not easily fixed, but Riot is not showing "favoritism" by helping the LGBT community over the cancer community(which they actually have donated to before). Also, let us not forget that us, humans, made this LGBT suicide stuff a problem, Riot wouldn't have to fund fixing it if humans actually had a heart (just putting that out there, something to think about).

Interesting. So you believe there is a scientific solution to the cause of LGBT teen depression? Do you believe this scientific cure is some organization sitting behind a phone for them to call? Is one call to their hotline going to cure depression?

There is a cause to their depression, and i wont get into it here, but it wont be fixed with a hotline. Nevertheless, if they were helping people, it could at least provide a bandaid. So how many people have they helped avoid suicide?

Centuros1 votes

With all the cancer research and donations that have happened over the years, there still isn't a cure. Maybe it's the cancer researchers who really do nothing.

Wickedfates1 votes

im just curious... so what? i mean, does it matter who they donate their money to? does it matter that they do it for publicity, pr, ect? would you rather they not donate anything rather than donate?

its a terrible tragedy that children die of cancer.... and starvation.... and lack of medical attention... and clean water....

but being upset that the cause that matters most to you was not given more isnt helpful.... if you feel more should be done, you are free to donate your time and money to the causes you champion.... riot donating does not do anything harmful does it?

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