If you are incapable of ganking before hitting level 6 or before you have stacked your Devourer to Sated, don't jungle. At all.
Lanes having problems need pressured early to give your team an advantage. Even a pre-6 Warwick can go to a lane and at least get a flash out of the opponent. Also, prioritize bottom lane. If you get them ahead, you are helping two people instead of just one.
Be a team player, help your teammates out.
Matthias91194 votesPSA to laners: if your jungler is one who ganks extremely poorly before level 6 (including: 
), tailor your play expecting them not to deliver much pressure to your lane pre-6. If you are incapable of not losing lane pre-6 without jungle pressure, don't lane. At all.
If low-mobility enemies are pushed to your team's towers, sure, you should be going after them even with a jungler that doesn't gank all that well pre-6. But none of those junglers are even going to force a Flash on someone like Katarina or Yasuo in midlane unless they're overextended and not warding. It's literally a waste of time.
Lugg1 votesPre-6, there really isn't a laner who can 2v1 or 3v2. With the jungler and the lane, the enemy laner HAS to back off. If you get a summoner blown just from showing up, it's a successful gank. Plus it's really good for morale on your team.
Matthias91191 votesYes, they will have to back off while you are there.
Unless they're immobile or extremely overextended and don't have ward coverage, you're unlikely to force a flash. Maybe you deny them a few CS. If your ganks massively improve at 6 you're probably better off farming quicker to get to 6 than standing around midlane or botlane.
Conveniently, you're also ignoring that other lanes can then push hard because they know you're somewhere else. You're also potentially inviting a counter-gank if you hang around a lane or push it yourself trying to gank.
Can it be worth it to show up in lane pre-6 on someone like Warwick or Shyvana or Diana? Sometimes, situationally. You want to keep the enemies honest. But there's a real cost to delaying your power spike on those champions.
Lugg1 votesOne thing people are completely forgetting is that it really helps your laners morale. At least they know you are watching their lane and you are trying to help. That alone can help some people get back in control of their lane.
I agree that you don't want to deny powerspikes more than necessary, but is taking 30 seconds to gank really that big of an impact?
Matthias91191 votesOne thing people are completely forgetting is that it really helps your laners morale.
So does "I'll gank once I hit 6, play safe until then".
I agree that you don't want to deny powerspikes more than necessary, but is taking 30 seconds to gank really that big of an impact?
Depends. There's an opportunity cost to everything.
What else could you be doing with that time? How many times are you doing it? You're should hit level 6 at less than 10 minutes powerfarming, which is ~8 minutes of farming at most -- so 30 seconds is a significant time investment. If there's zero chance of killing the enemy laner and only a slim chance of even getting them to burn Flash, it's not a very good deal IMO.
Who is the enemy jungler? Where is the enemy jungler? Is there a risk the enemy jungler could steal one of your camps or try to sneak dragon while you're ganking? Is there a risk the enemy jungler could show up and counter-gank? Against a strong early-game duelist like Lee, it's risky to show up in lane if you don't know where they are and you can't beat him 1v1.
Would it be better to counter-jungle instead of trying to gank a lane? If you can see the enemy jungler and can steal some of their camps (or even a buff) with little risk, that can be WAY more advantageous for a jungler like Shyvana than standing around botlane for 30-60 seconds with little chance of getting a kill.
insaiyanbacca3 voteswell i mean if you play warwick any gank pre 6 will either end in time wasted or a kill given to the enemy team unless they are pushing super hard EDIT and in most cases pre 6 ww wont even get a flash cause everyone knows hes not a threat
Lugg1 votesThe best time to do a gank like that is after one of the other lanes has backed and the enemy isn't sure where they are. For all the enemy knows, you have that laner with you and they will at least flash away. There are always ways to pressure lanes with ANY jungler. I can't count the number of games where the jungler waits till 6 to gank and the game is already over in 1 or 2 lanes.
Angry Monster2 votesdear bronze 5 player. Please keep your PSAs to your self, cause you have no clue what you are talking about.
Lugg1 votesYeah, had to go with that because the post hit home that you are a crap jungler.
Angry Monster1 voteslol sure kid. Maybe one day i will fall to your level.
Dracid2 votesPSA to laners. It is not the junglers job to win your lane. If you die 1v1 or 2v2, that's on you. If you die to a jungle gank, learn to ward
stay bad kid
Lugg1 votesI agree that a lot of it's on the laner, but if your laner is getting camped and you don't do anything about it, it really is your fault.
Markus Kruber1 votesYou should jg some time
Lugg1 votesI do, quite often.
Markus Kruber1 votesLugg it's you! From the "How do I add pictures???" thread!
Lugg1 votes:D
Taredom1 votesWhile I'm game for helping your team out, some junglers are just better off farming the early levels than they are ganking, mostly referring to junglers that have a low chance of successfully ganking a lane pre-6.
Expect someone to say "you shouldn't need your jungler to win your lane for you," because while they can (and in some cases should) HELP you win your lane, you shouldn't lean on them to carry you early game (unless it's someone that really should be ganking early, such as Lee, Elise and Xin.)
Also I swear to god if I see another Cait/Sona lane lose to something like Vayne/Janna and then start blaming me and complaining, I'm going to lose it, in no circumstance should you even need my presence anywhere near a lane like that.
Lugg1 votesI agree that some junglers really need the early farm. However, if one of your lanes has a really bad matchup or is getting camped, you need to go help them out. It doesn't do any good to farm up when your team has already lost one or more lanes by the time you are ready to gank. Especially if one of those lanes has an enemy that snowballs hard.
Taredom1 votesI agree that some junglers really need the early farm. However, if one of your lanes has a really bad matchup or is getting camped, you need to go help them out. It doesn't do any good to farm up when your team has already lost one or more lanes by the time you are ready to gank. Especially if one of those lanes has an enemy that snowballs hard.
In the case of devourer junglers, I agree, they should lend a hand (which in a weird way nullifies the power spike of the item by stalling it by 5-10 minutes, but that's an entire different discussion on when it's appropriate to go that route) but as far as junglers such as WW, Shyv or even like Amumu (he's not totally useless pre-6 though) you have to play differently with them on your team, also if your lane is successfully being camped, that means that you are either too far pushed out, aren't warding properly or you're facing a jungler such as the ones I mentioned above, in which case you should be preparing for those early ganks (but so should your jungler.)
Also keep in mind with counterganking, some junglers shouldn't go for the 2v2 if they don't have the damage or cc for it, such as sej pre 6, there aren't many situations in which she can go in for a countergank where she actually expects to do anything except for shoo them off (which means she's coming through lane, because if she goes through river or something, she is highly at risk of dying herself, like Amumu, her early game is rough.)
I do agree though with the bad match up thing, they can at least show themselves briefly to push off the enemy laner, also with lanes that snowball, such as assassins (unless you fed them, then I'm not coming ANYWHERE near them, no sense in feeding a double.)
Lugg1 votesApplying a little pressure to a lane doesn't really slow down your farming that much. I get successful ganks early with Amumu and WW quite often. If the enemy laner is dumb enough to attempt a 2v1 that early, you get your laner fed. If the enemy jungler is there or they already fed their lane, then yes, don't go for it.