People who disobey pick order should have a temporary ban from draft gamemodes

Junkο·Oct 11, 2014·2 votes·705 views

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redniwediSOct 11, 20143 votes

Titles don't lead to discussions.

Pick order is nice and all, but it's not exactly a rule. It's a community generated guideline to help streamline the picking process. Now, people can be reported if they refuse to communicate their position, but if they say they are going mid no matter what and you lock in mid before their turn arrives you're just as much of the problem as they are. A team has to adapt in order to win, which sadly includes adapting to trolls.

CenturosOct 11, 20143 votes

You can't actually disobey pick order; other than by some sort of hacking, there is no way to pick before the people above you.

Now, if you pick champions to spite your team, that's just trolling.

Deep Terror NamiOct 11, 20142 votes

What red said. Compromise in order to average out your chance of losing rather than being stubborn and guarantee a loss; feel free to report for negative attitude afterwards if their behavior warrants it. I main Supp and excel at it, I avoid top and suck at it; but if a troll decides he's going to support no matter what I'll take my chances in top and just try not to feed. Ok last time that happened the guy who stole support DC'd immediately, but hey, it was worth a shot.

JunkοOct 11, 20142 votes

So what you are saying is you would go top with Soraka when last picks decides to lock support despite not saying anything before?

Deep Terror NamiOct 11, 20142 votes

As opposed to him sitting in base afk or feeding the entire game? Absolutely.

JunkοOct 11, 20142 votes

100% people that demand a role fed and then rage quit anyway. happened in 9/10 of my last games

Deep Terror NamiOct 11, 20141 votes

Even if that were true, the chances of that happening so often are extremely low and you just got unlucky. I took the liberty of looking at your past 10 matches because of how unlikely it sounded and the second match I came across seemed odd. In this game you were at level 4 while the rest of the team was 10+, meaning you left the match. In the other games where you lost, one clearly just had a Zed that was getting stomped by Ryze (he tried and stayed, it's clear because his CS was still decent compared to his team), and another the Twitch did really bad and it does appear that he left early. But out of all of them, your leave was by far the worst example. Care to explain why you are the example of what you're having an issue with?

P.S. You won't have these troubles in Team Builder, and you'll rarely see it in ranked. Low level draft play is where people care the least. Just level up and leave it behind.

JunkοOct 11, 20141 votes

I left the game because:

I had to duo top
We had a bot on our team (Cassiopeia)
Cait who i duo topped with was really dumb

Deep Terror NamiOct 11, 20141 votes

I looked at Cassiopeia's match history. Not a bot. Doing bad and not replying to chat doesn't make somebody a bot.

ADC can go top to maximize their experience during early laning phase. If they go top, you go bottom and hold lane with the support instead. Not saying the Cait was going for this, or wasn't dumb, but you can leave your lane.

I know I'm being harsh, but nothing short of having 4 actual bots on your team makes it ok to leave the game and abandon your team. This is exactly what you are arguing against and should lead by example rather than making the problem worse.

JunkοOct 11, 20141 votes

Cass was shotting E's out of her back and dodged almost every skillshot by slutterstepping but had very poor positioning. Aka it was a bot who was also running a Cassiopeia script. Cass and Thresh were already bot, so going bottom was not an option anyway.

Deep Terror NamiOct 11, 20141 votes

Well if Cass was bot go mid? Maybe I should've been more specific; Fill the empty lane.

JunkοOct 11, 20141 votes

Xerath was mid, we had no jungle

Deep Terror NamiOct 11, 20141 votes

So the lanes were fine, you just left because it wasn't meta...

JunkοOct 11, 20141 votes

No i left because i stunned Fiora 2 times and set her up for a kill, but Caitlyn rather attacked minions and waited till i died before she even bothered attacking Fiora

Deep Terror NamiOct 11, 20141 votes

You can stop rationalizing quitting on your team whenever you're ready. The box is getting small. I've been playing for, something like 9 months now and I haven't afk'd once. Maybe it's just me, but quitting and making the game worse for the remaining teammates is extremely rude, no matter what the circumstance.

JunkοOct 11, 20141 votes

Also that Zed wasn't stomped by a Ryze, he got destroyed by a Teemo, raging in all chat everytime he died on how broken Teemo is, until eventually rage quitting on his 3rd death. The only reason his cs seems normal is because nobody bothered to actually play after that (Tryndamere also quit).

As for team builder, it takes forever to find a game, after 50 min of wait you risk of the game being disbanded because the captain gets impatient and have to start all over again.

Deep Terror NamiOct 11, 20141 votes

If you're waiting 50 minutes (I call bullshit), likely because you're picking a low priority role like mid, just create your own match and be the captain. You'll have a game ready in 3.

kswimming101Oct 11, 20141 votes

the point of the game is to adapt and change strategies according to how the game is playing. if you have someone troll and wont communicate, fill the empty lane and hold off until you can farm up and carry. yes, sometimes you will lose, no, you will never have an internet game that has no trolls, but atleast you can try and potentially carry late game if youre a good player with good mechanics. (did not look at history and not judging from other comments on here) just try to stay positive and reinforce good plays with your team

Dominick DestineOct 11, 20141 votes

I concur... but you must understand that the community is very hyper entitled. They believe that "Call Order" is the solution , the same way that children think that saying "EVERYTHING HERE IS MNE LOLZ" is actually a legitimate argument.

Pick Order is the only way it will work; yes you will not always get the role you want, but it is equitable and fair.