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Tryhards and Toxic Players

ChaosThief··4 votes·715 views

Hey there, I am a mid silver player, and I have something I'd like to share.

I decided to play Nasus on URF, and went top lane. Everything was good, I was ready to lose early but succeed late. However, It happens that matchmaking decided to pair me with a 4 man premade because one of their members was in silver 2. In that group they had a platinum 3 Riven .

The Riven proceeded to stomp me over and over. I could not fight her, I could not farm, I was useless due to this player always being ready. And since she knew what she was doing, she continuously killed me. I fed as a result.

My teammates harassed me because of this, calling me trash and bad when I could not deal with the platinum player. They were Lulu and Janna , and blamed the loss on "trash Nasus " Anything I said was an excuse to them, and they acted like they could win. Janna 's 16/12 apparently said she could win the game.

They went in late only to take minions left and right, any Q farming I could have done was removed. I was backed into a corner, unable to compete, and the teammates constantly harassed me. I couldn't do anything, and they go a step further to ruin my day.

I ended up losing that game, and I decided to backdoor 2 turrets with the 300 Q farm I had. The enemies ended the game soon after.

The Janna told me to "go learn how to play" despite being one of the worst early game champions in the game, even in urf. I could not believe how much they were trying to just demolish the enemy team for both sides. I saw both sides as just people looking for blood. I couldn't stand people like this, and it pairs me with an entire game of them.

From here on to deal with these people I have to play broken champions. And any time I do poorly, the team harasses me. Please, anyone with empathy, if you read this far, give some advice or something. And riot, is there some way to prevent players like this Riven from running into me, just because of a silver player. I just want to have fun, but I run into toxic players left and right to just call me trash left and right for not being a good early game.

Please let this be an end to people like this. Let me play a mode for fun in peace, and not have people tryharding left and right to win game after game without a single care to how many people play the game for fun; all they care about is winning in my eyes.

My final words: Let this be a lesson to players who play to win. Learn to have fun, and to forgive. If you do not, you are bound to lose more games, and never have one that is truly, for the enjoyment of the game.

EDIT: ran into another plat 3 riven in normals while trying adc thresh. Riven could 1v5 and kill all 5.

29 Comments

Sir ArmaMalum6 votes

"Be humble in victory and graceful in defeat"

I don't pretend to understand people who take the time and energy to type toxic chat in the game. I've been raged at and raged myself, but very very rarely have I ever spoken out with anger. There's just no point to it. No one is going to play better with harassment. Personally, I'll tolerate a "What the hell were you doing?" or something like that, because League is high stress and a quick blurt of anger (while not justified) is understandable, continued harassment however not only accomplishes nothing but actively makes your own play worse. I just don't understand it.

For you Thief, I know you'll probably get the same thing again and again, but the mute button is a beautiful thing. No point on having their horrible behavior throwing your own game off. Granted this does not actively work against the behavior, but that's what the report is for. Yes, you don't get to see the results of said report, but it's something, and from what it sounds like these guys will get t the tribunal soon enough.

ChaosThief1 votes

I hope so, and no matter how many games I play, I make mistakes, but the teammates I usually run into always harass me for it(some were justified though)

I will always remember the glorious mute button, the lord and savior from toxic players.

Angry Monster2 votes

IT is URF. Game mode is gone.

But people play games to win not to lose.

When i see the term try hard i wonder why the other person is playing?

MackleDoge6 votes

Trying to have fun. It is a game after all.

Angry Monster1 votes

google 'what is a game"

No where does it mention fun as a requirement.

Sir ArmaMalum4 votes

When you've come to arguing semantics and definitions you've lost the argument bro. Use examples and logical conclusions.

Angry Monster1 votes

when u don't know the English langue you cant even argue. The word game has nothing to do with fun.

Please take a critical thinking class.

Sir ArmaMalum4 votes

And now you're attacking the other side personally to try to get a rise out of them. lol

I think we can just agree to disagree as it seems you have your mind made up and not open to anyone else's thoughts. Personally I find that disappointing, hope you can improve on that in the future.

Tsiddique1 votes

Just let it go..He's a lost cause xD

MackleDoge3 votes

Lol, you've got to be kidding me. Find something productive to do with your life, because taking a game that seriously isn't doing you any favors in the long run.

Angry Monster1 votes

ah the uneducated telling me to do something with my life. I knew the meaning of game while u did not.

MackleDoge3 votes

You can neither capitalize nor punctuate, not overly concerned with your opinion on whether or not I'm educated, nor your opinion on games.

"A game is structured playing, usually undertaken for enjoyment and sometimes used as an educational tool. Games are distinct from work, which is usually carried out for remuneration, and from art, which is more often an expression of aesthetic or ideological elements. However, the distinction is not clear-cut, and many games are also considered to be work (such as professional players of spectator sports/games) or art (such as jigsaw puzzles or games involving an artistic layout such as Mahjong, solitaire, or some video games).

Key components of games are goals, rules, challenge, and interaction. Games generally involve mental or physical stimulation, and often both. Many games help develop practical skills, serve as a form of exercise, or otherwise perform an educational, simulation, or psychological role.

Attested as early as 2600 BC, games are a universal part of human experience and present in all cultures. The Royal Game of Ur, Senet, and Mancala are some of the oldest known games."

Good try though.

Angry Monster1 votes

none of that defines fun. Game does not equal having fun nor does it mean to have fun.

Fun is a concept that has nothing to do with GAME.

People play games for the challenge. Fun can be a byproduct. Though it does not have to be.

your long winded post does not impress.

MackleDoge3 votes

Jesus christ, you might actually be the most stupid person I've ever seen on these forums. Do you not know what the word "enjoyment" means? Or do you not understand the concept of fun? You do not get to determine what everyone plays games for. That is an individual opinion that varies from person to person. It really is that simple: opinion.

Tsiddique3 votes

I play games to have fun.

Sir ArmaMalum4 votes

It's the same difference between travel and recreational teams on sports. I played rec soccer, and I considered myself good enough to be in travel leagues, but I didn't 'progress' to travel. Not because I was lazy, but because I just wanted to play a soccer game every weekend. No drama, no fuss, just play because the sport itself was fun. The fact that there had to be a winner or loser didn't mean that much because everyone there was there to have a good time, not to prove anything.

Essentially, I disagree, people play games to have fun with winning as a nice bonus. When League is not considered a game (ranked) then people are there to win and nothing but.

RpgtheMute1 votes

The Riven was in the same game as you because her mmr(not sure if this is the same in URF mode) is about the same as yours for normal games despite having a higher one for ranked. The only conceivable way you could avoid going against higher skill level players in normals was if the system for matchmaking in normals were changed entirely.

Also, I think that players being that toxic in a game mode that was meant to not be taken seriously in the first place is quite silly.

ChaosThief1 votes

So this riven, despite being plat, had a similar mmr than me?

I think it was her group's MMR. She had a few low ranked players with her, a bronze and a silver I think. It doesn't just go by individuals when in a premade.

Angry Monster1 votes

obviously this thread isnt mean for intelligent talking

MackleDoge4 votes

Clearly not since you're present.

Tsiddique2 votes

Look that sentence over. Really intelligent.

I would say it is meant for intelligent talking, but your arguments go on huge tangents such as the English language when people are talking about toxicity and playing games to have fun.

Troll for Trump1 votes

I like how Mackle and Tsiddique post on every comment you write ROFL

MackleDoge1 votes

Some people just need to be reminded and shown how stupid they are. Sometimes I guess it takes more than one person?

Semporo1 votes

when I play anyone who is toxic to me I ignore the entire game because it is meaningless and pointless in my opinion to feed their toxicity and allow them to get to you. It was an URF game it's not like it was a ranked match. I mean Even if it were ranked regardless there is no need for someone to be toxic. You were simply outplayed by the opposing player. Trust me I've been there and I've done that to people before. For instance... Today was playing URF and used Twitch who is HIGHLY over-powered in URF. The Udyr on the opposing team at the end said that my entire team was hacking because I was 16-1-10 You just have to ignore people like this. Enjoy the game and unless you playing professionally take the game for fun. I mean even the pros take fun in playing.

ChaosThief1 votes

Twitch is actually meeh in URF. But depends on the players really :)

I had fun with shen in urf, and nasus sometimes. This one not being fun.

SHEN INVINCIBLE MAN

I VasH l1 votes

Just my .02 but some people play the game to win. I'm not saying people don't have fun but there are still those people that don't find it fun to lose. Are there trolls? Yes. Are there feeders and quitters? Yes. But there are those people out there who just want to win because that is there version of fun. I don't like losing. I don't like getting grouped with people in a rank queue who don't know what last hitting is and cost me and my teammates the game.

Yes there is nothing wrong with just playing to have fun but just understand that the entire world doesn't share you view of fun. Some yes, but not all. If you play a game where there is a possible outcome of win or lose, 90% of the people play to win.

I've played for almost a year and of the several several loses I've had to experience i can safely say that only a handful were legitimate well played well fought "could have gone either way" type of loses. That is just to show you what the majority of those loses are contributed to. Players who think their version of fun trumps the others' in game with them.

And in the very long run if you dont want like what people are saying, Mute them. Not everyone that you get grouped with is there to be your friend.

ChaosThief1 votes

The thing is, it's not like I don't WANT to win. It's just there are people who would do anything to win, and if they start losing for half a second, they instantly just turn into demons.

They don't care about how the game played out if someone "fed the enemy", regardless of who they were.

Tulare1 votes

The way I put it, winning is the goal but fun is the purpose.

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