When people force you to play your weakest roll...

YoungFarmer·Apr 24, 2015·8 votes·1,343 views

And then flame you for doing poorly... such is bronze

27 Comments

Trash MammaIApr 24, 20155 votes

To be fair..you should have the common basics of a role down before playing ranked (this is me assuming it's ranked since you said bronze..)

Now, if you're someone like me who plays tanks/bruisers a lot then get forced to adc..I can understand what you mean. Naturally i'm use to being a front line damage soaker or dps type deal. I don't like being the back line so it's hard for me to adc.

Other than something in that type of situation where you're flat out not use to a huge change there's no real excuse for having a "weak" roll.

redniwediSApr 24, 20158 votes

Unless you're a literal jack of all trades you will have a strongest role and a weakest role, regardless of how much you work to make sure you're not subpar in any area.

Trash MammaIApr 24, 20151 votes

I'm not gonna brag and say i'm good at every role since i'm not but I don't really have a role I excel in more than the others and a role i'm completely horrible in all the others.

Top/Jungle are what I play most so both of them are pretty high up but neither role for me am I just godlike in. They're about the same level. As for the rest of the roles i'm decent in. I get the typical playstyle and how the role should be played. I'm not god awful in any of them i'm just decent.

That's imo how you should be when playing ranked. You should have those 2 roles you enjoy and play a lot and have more experience in. The rest of the roles you shouldn't have one that you just flat out can't do but rather know how to do them all even if it's just the very bare minimum of it.

Like adc for ex. If you don't play it much you should at LEAST know how to position when to trade how to kite etc. Not have 0 idea what kiting is. Not have no idea when you should trade with the opposing adc stuff like that

redniwediSApr 24, 20152 votes

Being a jack of all trades is uncommon, but it's not unheard of. Skill wise you are correct, everyone should be able to play every position on par to that skill level, however the vast majority of players will have roles they are simply better or worse in. It's not a matter of practice or anything, it's a simple and unfortunate truth most players have to deal with.

That said players who refuse to practice and at least attempt to improve at roles they are bad at are in the wrong.

manbearswineApr 24, 20151 votes

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That said players who refuse to practice and at least attempt to improve at roles they are bad at are in the wrong.

Do you want to be right,or do you want to win?

You can say this all you want,but some people just really suck at certain roles,if someone tells you "I really shouldn't adc" and you take all other roles I really don't think he's the one to blame for your loss.

redniwediSApr 24, 20151 votes

That's pretty much what I said in the other half of my post.

Personally I am an absolutely terrible ADC, and I'll tell people that in champion select, however that doesn't stop me from attempting to better myself by practicing ADC in normals. In an ideal situation a team will talk before hand in an attempt to get everyone into a role they feel comfortable with, however that rarely happens.

You have to prepare yourself for those situations where you have to play your weakest role. It doesn't really matter who is to blame for a loss, the flaming the OP mentioned is fully the fault of the people who chose to force someone into their worst role. That player might be the reason for the loss, however so long as he makes an attempt to get better at that role no other blame can rightfully be put on him.

There are people out there who will legitimately only play one role, and will flame and troll and dodge if they don't get it. Those are the people who hold additional blame.

manbearswineApr 25, 20151 votes

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That's pretty much what I said in the other half of my post.

Personally I am an absolutely terrible ADC, and I'll tell people that in champion select, however that doesn't stop me from attempting to better myself by practicing ADC in normals. In an ideal situation a team will talk before hand in an attempt to get everyone into a role they feel comfortable with, however that rarely happens.

You have to prepare yourself for those situations where you have to play your weakest role.

People like to say that you do,but you actually don't.

It doesn't really matter who is to blame for a loss, the flaming the OP mentioned is fully the fault of the people who chose to force someone into their worst role.

I agree,generally it's very unlikely nobody in the team can adc,and since it's not considered a "bitch role" he probably wouldn't mind playing it,if he/them prefer to force you to play it instead,that's their choice.

That player might be the reason for the loss, however so long as he makes an attempt to get better at that role no other blame can rightfully be put on him.

Look we all have our ups and downs,and as long as you don't give too big a set of constraints to your team("mid or feed") it's their job to fill them(and same goes for you and the constraints they give you),if they decide to ignore that it's their own problem(well,and yours),but you don't really have any obligation to improve on it.

There are people out there who will legitimately only play one role, and will flame and troll and dodge if they don't get it. Those are the people who hold additional blame.

Well that's because they give unreasonable constraints.

*I'm a terrible adc for example,and as long as I give a heads up about it first I get forced into it once in a blue moon,I don't really feel like I should put a lot of work in improving a role I don't like when so many other people don't mind playing it.

redniwediSApr 25, 20151 votes

People like to say that you do,but you actually don't.

Wait, what do I do but don't?

manbearswineApr 25, 20151 votes

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Wait, what do I do but don't?

"You have to prepare yourself for those situations where you have to play your weakest role."

It's the same as "you need to learn all roles before playing ranked",it's a myth,you don't.

redniwediSApr 25, 20151 votes

That's basically a shortened statement, with the second half being implied. The full statement is:

"You have to learn all roles before playing ranked in order to be fully prepared."

You don't actually have to learn everything, but it sure helps to do so.

LsayuApr 24, 20151 votes

at LEAST know how to position

this alone takes half-maining adc to learn properly. And if you know basics of it it's more likely than not you will make mistakes because of it and get ungodly amount of flame.

And I'm not saying that you're not right it's just too vague, and people's expectations are too unrealistic about it. for junglers: you should just learn how to call shots. Just that little tiny bit of knowledge. for supports: you should just learn how to protect your adc. etc.

MacDthreeApr 24, 20152 votes

you have to consider that just because people CAN play all the roles DECENTLY doesn't mean they have enough experience with them to succesfully counter pick the enemy. if their "weakest" role is jungle, but they are only really good with 2 junglers, and neither of them counter or fit your team.... You should probably let somebody who is skilled with several junglers fill the role. It's courtesy and logic, and simple team work. If a team can't get their shiz together in pre game, they aren't going to work together in game either.

disregardableApr 24, 20151 votes

Of course there is. Unless you're lucky, the person you're going against is probably going to have way more experience in that lane than you are. Case and point, I had to go against Irelia top lane this week. It was the first time I've ever laned against her, as an ADC main. I've seen her in teamfights, of course, I know she gets a reset on her dash thing and her ult is ranged. That's it though. I quickly looked her up on championselect.net, grabbed Nasus, and hoped for the best.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1801497510/218533396?tab=overview

I didn't feed, but I didn't farm nearly as well as I could have had I known what to do. I didn't get any kills on her or make as much of an impact in the game. I basically just let her be a monster, because I had no idea how to shut her down. We still won though, even though I was meh.

gr8jobApr 24, 20151 votes

We also forget that decent is not always good enough, and can easily be outplayed by your opponent who mains that role, thus inviting rage and the perception that you're playing "poorly."

rebound2Apr 25, 20154 votes

I wasn't very good at being a Mid laner when I first started playing. I still am not good at it. If you want to never have to play the role you're worst at, be worst at mid.

DrukyulApr 25, 20151 votes

I used to be good at mid, then at some point I lost the magic and became better at other roles.

I couldn't be happier about it.

IcyPepperApr 24, 20153 votes

This is why I mained support and jungle first. I suck ass at top, but it's a good thing everyone else wants it.

SleepyLionCubApr 25, 20152 votes

I usually do pretty average when playing my worst role. But the guy who took my role always does terrible

Lore VentusApr 24, 20151 votes

Playing top lane.... I had to play Leona against Fiora . It went better than expected :D

Trash MammaIApr 24, 20151 votes

To be honest..anybody who isn't super squishy like Heimer or something can easily beat Fiora easy as hell pre-6 if they start cloth 5. I hope they do something with her sometime

DrukyulApr 25, 20151 votes

Aww, I was hoping for a .gif of some hot, sweet, bread.