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Ranked Ladder Suggestion [Specifically for Solo/Duo Queue]

Stacona·8/25/2014, 7:43:48 PM·3 votes·1,162 views

With Master Tier being introduced I was thinking of a way to tweak the ranking system and how you climb since the Master Tier is a revert to the elo system. So the Tiers will still be Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond, Master, Challenger with Master and Challenger being identical to how they work, the changes I will suggest will involve the other tiers.

  1. The 5 divisions will be removed completely, same with the promo series besides for Diamond having a best of 5 to get into Masters.

  2. Each Tier will have League Points from 0 to 100 once you go past 100 LP you reset back to 0, 1, or 2 LP in the next tier i.e. Bronze to Silver you lose 100 LP but advance to the next tier, until you get to Diamond tier then at 100 LP you advance to a best of five promotional series to Master Tier then gain 100 LP after your promos to prevent immediate demotions back to Diamond tier.

  3. Wins will grant you 2 LP and Loses will grant you -1 LP meaning if you remain having an equal or positive win ratio you will eventually get to Diamond. Alternate option to point 3: Wins/Losses will grant +/- 5 LP no matter what, Loss Forgiven will neutralize this of course.

  4. Duo partners may only be within 100 LP of each other, so a Bronze 60 may barely duo with a Silver 40, but a Bronze 60 cannot duo with a Silver 45. This is to prevent a sense of elo boosting through duo queuing of high tier players helping out low tier players which ruins other people's games mostly it is not fun playing against a high tier player when you are only mid tier and get stomped by them and to prevent frustrations on the team with the low tier players potentially feeding or not knowing what to do in a mid tier environment.

  5. There is a bottom side though for match making isn't hidden from you and you know who you play against where if you are Bronze with 0 LP and lose a game you are now Bronze with~~ -1 LP or~~ -5 LP with the alternate suggestion

  6. If you have 0 LP and in Gold and lose a game you go down to Silver 100 LP (105 LP is 5 LP in the next tier)

  7. When you are 100 LP Diamond Tier your next game is your first game for your best of five for Master Tier.

  8. Master Tier, once you get promoted from Diamond, you start with 100 LP so you are not immediately demoted to Diamond after just beating your promos.

  9. Master Tier is when you truly get into ranked play where your wins / loses will grant/lose around 8-15 LP per game (as it does now) and you see who can get the highest LP to be considered #1 in your region; Challenger being on a 24 hour cycle to see who is the top 200 of your region.

  10. The start of each new season will reset your LP to 0 of your current tier i.e. Gold 25 LP will be Gold 0 LP in the new season, wins and loses will also reset to 0 for that fresh new start to the season, and soft resets to 0 LP of your current tier will allow you to roughly play with the same types of players you have been playing with last season as the new season while not destroying your progress to become truly ranked. Master Tier will reset everyone to 100 LP that are already in Master Tier even if you lie between 0 and 100 LP of Master Tier.

Overall, I think this will have players really feel like they need to master the game to get into Master Tier with a minimum of 250 100 games if you win every single game and have ranked into a true competitive atmosphere seeing as players must actually play the game to get ranked, but still rewarding players while they make their way to the true competition and where the games begin.

6 Comments

RomanorumLegio8/26/2014, 12:32:28 AM2 votes

Your idea sounds nice. It would remove much of the clutter of the current system where LP loss/gain can feel random. The major flaw that I see is allowing people to slowly crawl upwards even if they have an even win/loss ratio. As the current system works, LP and MMR are not directly related, and, in my opinion, Leagues should be representative of skill not time put into the game. If I play at a silver MMR then I should be silver. If there is a way to be diamond while playing at a silver MMR, then it would devoid the Diamond tier of it's current prestige (Only the top 1.9% have the honor to be there.) If a person is going even, then he/she has theoretically found his/her level of play, so tier movement should stop.

If that sounded a bit blunt, sorry.

I do like the idea of removing promotion series except for entering professional play. Promotional series only cause stress and can build up a MMR and LP diffrence (Bronze facing low gold or worse).

Worgslarg8/26/2014, 1:29:19 AM1 votes

I like the removal of promotionals, with only divisionals. Removing all promotion series is certainly viable, but you would need to lower lp gains to maintain the average skill level per league.

I feel that lp gains should be reduced, but with a very, very low mmr for your league you should lose more than you gain.

It seems that you feel that most players should be in master tier, and I feel that the master teir is simply the pool from which challenger players are drawn/