why are turrets so useless now

YoungFarmer·4/11/2015, 4:31:33 AM·53 votes·4,361 views

people can dive me and tank like 20 shots and not die its kind of un-fun.

Edit: I have heard rumours that when you are losing lane you sit and farm under turret, I have realized that you can't do that when a liss can't ult you and burst you down while hiding underturret

47 Comments

BLU Medic4/11/2015, 7:51:04 AM37 votes

I'd rather have strong turrets and weak minions. These days, you're better hiding among a swarm of minions than you are hugging a turret.

Trash MammaI4/11/2015, 4:48:06 AM15 votes

Cause then they couldn't keep their shitty lasers if they had other towers being so stronk. Srsly I rather old towers. Fuck those lasers

Rikari4/11/2015, 5:28:40 PM7 votes

If turrets start doing damage then assassins might have to think twice before they dive you Zed Katarina Leblanc so yeah never gonna happen

https://youtu.be/Zjmtxs6HHL0?t=15m38s

Exhausted and dashed with atleast 3 shots left to kill

Strawberrycocoa4/11/2015, 4:40:19 AM6 votes

Because #LCSBigPlays can't happen when towers can defend a weakened player indefinitely.

Mitch Sorenstein4/11/2015, 10:49:11 AM4 votes

I feel you but if towers were any stronger, games would last 50 minutes each.

BeerOfRoot48434/11/2015, 5:40:35 AM4 votes

I've been killed by a Talon with a tenth of his hp left, and then he walked off 4 tower shots. No tanky items or anything.

Rogue Revenant4/11/2015, 6:41:10 PM3 votes

I hate how hard the shield turrets got nerfed. Nerfing them a little was good a probably even healthy for the game to some extent but now it's literally one hit to get rid of the shield. It used to feel like a risk when I had to get in to hit the turret enough to bring down the shield to then weaken their team defenses... now it just feels like an auto attack. It's so incredibly weak it practically isn't there anymore.

What is even more pathetic is that they STILL feel stronger than the inhib "laser" turrets. The laser is only really annoying because it seems to leash you for an incredibly long range. Other than that, it never feels too strong.

Soda Popkillski4/11/2015, 3:38:46 PM3 votes

They just want assasins and other bursty mid laners to dominate the meta.

But seriously though the turrets should at least have some scaling to the late-game.

Mecha MaIphite4/11/2015, 10:02:54 PM2 votes

Zed wats a turret

Uiru4/12/2015, 1:07:35 AM2 votes

Me: Hey what else do I need to know about HotS? Friend: Turrets are generally weaker than in LoL. Me: Literally impossible.

True story. After level four turrets might as well stop firing at champions. They don't even give the illusion of safety anymore. ~Uiru

Seviang4/11/2015, 7:32:25 PM2 votes

Turrets are plenty strong. Botched turret dives are the #1 way solo queue games get thrown in the early game.

Silents4294/11/2015, 7:05:13 PM2 votes

They just need penetration or a faster attack speed. Or they need to adjust it so instead of picking a random champion to target it targets the one doing most of the damage to you.

"Yes turret that Cho Gath that silenced me was annoying but help me kill this fucking Riven!"

Xx420n0sc0p3sxX4/11/2015, 3:51:44 PM2 votes

Have you played DotA 2? The turrets deal like 70 damage per shot, and the fountain takes like 7 seconds to kill a squishy.

You get like 3 man dived at level 3 if you don't have good cc.

Xion Dominagus4/11/2015, 8:51:36 PM2 votes

Turrets only get buffed when Master Yi is in the Meta, people stop playing him, and they stealth-nerf them. Nuff said.

Big Bang Bob4/11/2015, 8:32:16 AM1 votes

I feel like the turrets are beings who after being destroyed countless times, don't care about anything anymore, especially the life of a champion. It slowly charges each shot without a worry in the world. If you die trying to fight under it, so what? If it actually manages to help, whoop dee do.

The answer, of course, is to stay out from under your tower with divable or snipable amounts of hp and to lock down any tank who tries to open up the tower and those under it to being attacked. That sad part is, in certain situations (Zed Fizz ), this is easier said than done. Even doing the second thing I mentioned may lead to the tank flashing away while your team is killed under their own tower or the tower is destroyed.

But tanks are tanks. They might take a lot of shots, but they won't likely do much in a tower dive on their own. Not that standing under a tower for a full blown minute at half build is okay.

Jamnon4/13/2015, 1:20:44 AM1 votes

Riot is happy with them and feels they are fine and thus (sadly) wont change them likely in the near future.

They are however appreciative of the feedback.

(I agree with you and think it is a stupid change).

Blue Moon Wolf4/11/2015, 2:55:58 PM1 votes

I still don't get why they got rid of the mid turret shield, then left a useless amount of shield on the top and bot turrets what is that even for? 2 stray melee minions who made it with in striking range?

SmknWdl4/11/2015, 3:39:32 PM1 votes

I agree. I have a basic strategy as yasuo mid, and 90% of the time it gets me first kill in lane when I do it right. It involves poking down the enemy, then hard pushing to turret and hitting 6 first, then diving under turret. If i pull it off, about 95% of the time i get out alive. So yes, i think turrets are very weak, because i see the easiness to tower dive right now. And yes, I'm saying that they need a buff. Maybe not a range buff, but either an attack speed buff or an attack damage buff. Probably attack speed.

Lucifer4/11/2015, 4:13:25 PM1 votes

Imo the solution is to have turrets do % health (increasing with each hit) rather than a flat amount of damage. Right now tanks don't give a fuck about turrets and just sit under them for a minute.

CubedJustice4/11/2015, 4:47:43 PM1 votes

So, you're suggesting pantheon buffs? I approve.

Dengeden4/11/2015, 5:57:50 PM1 votes

Shorter games > Strong towers

LadyRenly4/11/2015, 6:08:22 PM1 votes

I don't really want to place any blame, but in the age of cinderhulk, turrets mean less than ever

Crate of Cobras4/12/2015, 6:22:08 AM1 votes

I always found top lane to be the worst for this shit, but maybe it isn't.

Like, if your enemy is Riven, you're getting dived if you die once.

If I'm Vlad, I'll whittle the enemy down and dive them 90% of games for a free kill.

Fuck top lane mang

WolfBV4/12/2015, 7:31:38 AM1 votes

What if Inhibitor turrets had shields on them and gave the shields to champions as well, albeit at a smaller amount, and the two news turrets each had a stronger shield, gave the shield to champions, and gave each other a shield. So then the way this could be balanced is that when one nexus turret goes down, the other turret loses the shield that it was given from the second turret. Could this be a nice buff or is it useless? I guess the laser turrets could be given more damage at the start but take a bit longer, maybe 0.2 seconds longer, to get fully wound up.

BLU Medic4/12/2015, 5:27:08 PM1 votes

I just watched a featured match, red team annihilated blue team, and blue team couldn't even use the safety of their towers. I watched a LeBlanc with no real magic resist or health or armour or anything messing around under an enemy turret for a good 5 seconds and still getting the kill.