Shitty vs Great.

dominusx·Dec 25, 2016·18 votes·2,361 views

SO in your guys oppinions who are the best and worst designed champs in the game?

For me the best would be : And probably the worst : What you guys think let's talk shit to eachother about our oppinions. jk

102 Comments

Final Spark LuxDec 25, 201615 votes

Lux is the best imho. All the others are the worst cause they aren't Lux. I might be a little biased though.

DecimúsDec 25, 20167 votes

That. Was. Pathetic.

Final Spark LuxDec 25, 20169 votes

Imho = in my humble opinion just incase you didn't know. There's nothing pathetic about an opinion, because it's an opinion.

dominusxDec 25, 20166 votes

unless its a vayne main then it's pathetic. eks dee

Ra1ugaDec 26, 20161 votes

lux= just dont spam laugh and im fine with you

LifaFreezeDec 26, 20161 votes

Name checks out

Sahn UzalDec 25, 201613 votes

We're talking about Theme and Gameplay, right?

#Best

Gangplank is definetly one of the best designed champions in the game IMO. But he was really overtuned on release, because Riot didn't even know what the best build would be, and I don't specifically agree with some of the directions they took when balancing him. Sion could easily take the number one spot imo. Jhin Very, Very, Very, Very high up there. Nami ... Gameplay more than thematic as far as she goes imo, but I do agree with you. She feels great to have on your team, but never really felt opressive to face. Untill recently, that is. But healing and shielding being overtuned right now is not specific to her. Yorick He could use some minor changes, but he does an amazing job at combining the Necromancer theme and a Fighter theme.

#Worst

Kennen Irelia Karma ''Muh Balance'' Ionian champions, or the older ones atleast, tend to do a pretty bad job at having a personality in my eyes. Add some problematic Gameplay and/or poor translation from Thematic to Gameplay on top of that and here you are (Seriously, who even knew Irelia uses telekinetic powers before reading her lore?) Kayle What the fuck. How is she still in the game? Lulu Unless Riot designed her with ''Let's make a champion as annoying in every possible way as we can'' in mind, something seriously went wrong here, imo. Tryndamere does a really, really bad job at translating his thematic goals to gameplay. The Berserker who bitched the fuck out.

dominusxDec 25, 20162 votes

yeh gp is pretty much the best in everyway pure fun gameplay tons of outplay/counterplay and a good lore on top of that. the post was mostly directed to gamepla cause lore is fucked up atm but if we add some lore into it i completely agree with your choises

Ra1ugaDec 26, 20161 votes

how to play Tryndamere :

e into the middle of a 1v5 Press R AFK for 5 seconds Get a pentakill*[zombie-brand-facepalm]*

dominusxDec 26, 20162 votes

Yeh if you manage to kill anyone through the 1k hp shield or even get to someone in the 1st place. xD

The 2nd HorsemanDec 26, 20161 votes

does a really, really bad job at translating his thematic goals to gameplay. The Berserker who bitched the fuck out.

Fucking best line of 2016

TheSequelsRBadDec 25, 20166 votes

Kled "ARE YOU MAKING FUN OF MY SKAARL?"

Serious. way to much Kled hate, he is a cool champ with a clear correlation between lore and gameplay.

dominusxDec 25, 20161 votes

Yes what you gonna do about it? Darius

TheSequelsRBadDec 25, 20162 votes

"No prisoners! CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE."

Ra1ugaDec 25, 20162 votes

IM GONNA MAKE YOU LIZARD FOOD Kled

Ra1ugaDec 26, 20161 votes

THEN IM GONNA RIP YOUR SPINE OUT AND USE IT AS A BACKSCRATCHER! BECAUSE IT IS ITCHY! VERY ITCHY! Kled

MelledoneusDec 25, 20166 votes

Kled I'M GONNA TAKE THIS AXE AND REPLACE YOUR SPINAL CORD WITH IT SO YOU CAN HAVE A REAL BACKBONE, BOY!

TakazakiDec 26, 20163 votes

holy guac and cheese on crackers you're a savage

xeviDec 25, 20165 votes

Best - Yasuo , Jhin , Orianna , Kled , Lux , Fiora Worst - Shen , Jayce , Ekko , Jayce , Urgot , Jayce

ArakadiaDec 25, 20163 votes

Why did you list Shen as worst? Is it the gimicky sword?

xeviDec 25, 20162 votes

Yes. It just doesn't feel that interesting to play.

StephenizgodDec 25, 20165 votes

Best: Yorick Nami Braum Taric Ziggs Jhin Illaoi Lucian

Worst: Yasuo Tryndamere Annie Malzahar Aatrox Darius Garen DrMundo Irelia Janna Kalista Kindred Mordekaiser Nunu Ryze Shaco Vayne Zyra ....

I know it seems like I think there are more terribly designed champs than good ones but that isn't true. Everything not in the Best or Worst section I think is good or ok in design. It just I do think there are a few very well designed champions and some very badly designed champions. Just so you know I am not being 100% biased I play Janna quite often not because she is broken but because she is fun, but she is not well designed. I don't play jhin or lucian or Braum or illaoi but I do think as far as their role and identity they are very well designed. There is one champion that I think is the worst design of all though, I wonder if you can figure it out :P

drakuIa421Dec 25, 20161 votes

i still dont like how fast ziggs can destroy turrets.

StephenizgodDec 25, 20161 votes

I mean sure, but turrets die in seconds anyways... I mean at 10 minutes, leaving your lane while an enemy is in it is basically like saying "please take my turret" unless you have TP.

drakuIa421Dec 25, 20161 votes

but ziggs can do it a lot faster than anyone else because of his good waveclear, passive and w.

StephenizgodDec 25, 20161 votes

Well debatable, but it also requires a large amount of his Mana to do it, plus he loses his only forms of CC and poke in order to clear waves then take the turret. Even so Ziggs pays for this turret taking ability by being squishy and entirely skillshot oriented, plus like I said it costs him mana and cool downs to do it.

drakuIa421Dec 25, 20161 votes

after he gets last chapter he can poke the opponent out of lane (or even auto them with passive), then take the turret while they're gone.

StephenizgodDec 26, 20161 votes

I feel like its easier to bully a Ziggs out of lane than for him to bully you out of lane. He has high mana costs and all you need to do is dodge his Q. He is squishy and has only 1 form of escape which is on a really long cool down. I have never seen a Ziggs who was a legit threat in laning phase, he is very easy to gank and if he is pushing you out of lane and taking your turret it means your jungler is not ganking properly.

drakuIa421Dec 26, 20161 votes

if ziggs is easy to gank then he's not using his long range properly.

StephenizgodDec 26, 20161 votes

No I meant if he is taking your turret he is going to be easy to gank. Let him push you behind your turret and just call for Jungler ganks. Even if you don't kill him, getting some time to farm can help you stay in the game.

AcidTheWarlockDec 25, 20162 votes

How is Kled bad? Even though he's strong and can snowball, he doesn't really statcheck you as hard as other toplaners. People say things like Xin and J4 are alright but Xin is a walking ball of stats and J4's power is literally all locked into his burst without anything else. You survive it, you win.

Kled has to commit to killing you if he wants to fight like J4, but it's not over if you survive right away. Of course, since he has high DPS with upfront burst, he can overwhelm you, but you have time to fight opposed to R-E-Q-AA-death.

ArakadiaDec 25, 20162 votes

Kled's strentghs and weaknesses are really clear. He has no AoE damage, he has pretty terrible disengage, no hard CC except displacements which are primarily good for stopping channels, and his damage is delayed. His 4th W, his Q second proc, his E reactivate, and his ult's travel time all help delay his damage.

His strengths however are that he can 1v1 pretty dang well, he has absurd engage, and if he plans well can remount for a large heal.

Ra1ugaDec 26, 20161 votes

not to mention potentially the best all-in in the game

warpenguin555Dec 25, 20162 votes

best: Jhin Bard Khazix Velkoz Thresh Ashe Orianna Shen TahmKench Xerath Yorick

worst: Caitlyn Vayne Twitch Yasuo Irelia Camille Hecarim Jayce Tryndamere Heimerdinger Veigar Soraka Janna

Samantha RivenDec 25, 20162 votes

Best - Poppy

Everybody wants to be Poppy.

BandolierDec 25, 20162 votes

Best: Kled Worst: Kled

DIRUDec 25, 20162 votes

best - Bard Yasuo Zed Draven worst - Annie Hecarim Fizz Jayce

ArakadiaDec 25, 20166 votes

You can't compare my Bard to those cancers.

AeszarckDec 25, 20163 votes

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You can't compare my Bard to those cancers.

He can though, since it's his opinion.

ArakadiaDec 25, 20162 votes

True, it was more of a jest than fact.

Maligaro SpikeDec 25, 20161 votes

i think they're just speaking about design and not kits

ArakadiaDec 25, 20164 votes

Oh well Yasuo, Draven, and Zed have pretty dope designs.

ArakadiaDec 25, 20162 votes

Best: Bard Jhin Kled Clear weaknesses. Very thematic. Clean, not overloaded, and windows of opportunity for both sides.

Worst: Has waveclear, her shield, can be tanky while melting carries, is mobile af, and is almost impossible to build against with her %hp damage and armor shred. Additionally, there is no counter play to her ultimate, which makes me biased against her 24/7. She has cool skins though.

Ekko Too much is going on. When fighting Ekko, you gotta manage his passive stacks, your mana, your cooldowns, his mana, his cooldowns, his W stun, ganks, cs, his Q on both directions, and his ultimate. Even out of laning phase, you gotta kite him, watch his passive stacks, stay away from his Q, stay away from his W, and stay away from his ult while he runs in circles around you like Speed Gonzales.

Akali Snowbally and sheet.

HazyCloud7Dec 25, 20161 votes

Vi was actually in a really balanced spot before the jungle changes & addition of courage of the colossus pushed her to FOTM status.

The counterplay to her ultimate, later in the game at least, is positioning. If she ults you while you're behind your frontline as you should be in teamfights if you are playing someone who will be a priority target, she'll simply get locked down and killed.

Maligaro SpikeDec 25, 20162 votes

she suffers a bit the "damage or tankiness?" dilemma but i'd say she's the 3rd or 4th jungler in the game considering her overall strenghts

ShadòwDec 25, 20161 votes

Lucian is an example of a very good designed champion

clear strengths and weaknesses, doesn't feel clunky, is fun to play with and not frustrating to play against.

2016 had Jhin and Taliyah as good designed champions.

but i'm asking myself what they think when they release shit like Kled or Camille . i mean, do they really think that such BS is a good addidion to the game?

ArakadiaDec 25, 20162 votes

Lucian's only real weakness is his lack of hard CC, which tons of ADC's have along with their own weaknesses. His less then average range isn't a big deal with his Q, ult, and E allowing him to attack from afar or get up close.

Personally, he is frustrating as hell to fight. He jumps in, does his bursty combo, and jumps away before you can retaliate. Additionally, he doesn't fall off as much as people say. I really hate lucian, so I'm probably biased.

Kled isn't that toxic? :?

Ra1ugaDec 26, 20161 votes

He drinks mushroom juice and insults practically every champ in the game

Report kled for toxicity pls, ty XD

HateRipDec 26, 20161 votes

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is an example of a very good designed champion

clear strengths and weaknesses, doesn't feel clunky, is fun to play with and not frustrating to play against.

2016 had and as good designed champions.

but i'm asking myself what they think when they release shit like or . i mean, do they really think that such BS is a good addidion to the game?

I think Camille is the best champion they released in 2016.