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Vanjie··5 votes·514 views

You have ruined this season Riot Games. This game is no longer fun. Now here we are halfway through the season and you still cannot get it right. You are aware of:

  1. Shifting all power in items, kits, and masteries to AD and especially ADC. You are doing a "MAGE UPDATE" late May and you think that is going to accomplish something. From the looks of it nothing you are going to do is not going to be at the scope of the game breaking level you did with ADC. You are still leaving out a good amount of AP champions because you want to YET AGAIN go back and update AD and Assassins. Do you not know that AP champions are struggling now . . . especially against teamcomps that go ADC in every lane?

  2. You made new items way to strong and updates to existing items way to strong. You implemented new masteries that benefit NO AP champions at all. I am mainly talking about the keynote masteries. ADC, AD, supports, and tanks all have specific keynote masteries that benefit them. Here we are four months into the season and you still have yet to give AP champions ONE decent keynote mastery.

  3. You are making horrible updates to champions like Kogmaw, Xin, Graves, and many others . . . . and you let them sit int he game for two to three weeks before you nerf them. It seems your update and balance team cannot get anything right with updating. Let's also add the fact that they think Annie, Brand, and Vel need an update over Karma, Morde, Syndra, and other REALLY struggling AP champions. Stupid decisions by people that don't listen to player feedback.

Are you guys starting to notice a trend? They don't listen to playerfeedback and implement things into the game that no one asks for. The new keynote masteries, champion updates, new items and item changes all seem to benefit 50% of the champion pool and you leave the other 50% out high and dry. You don't nerf champions in a timely manner and you implement broken updated champions on to the live servers.

I am probably done with this ridiculous game. This has been by far the worst season you guys have done. The writers, champion concept team, and skin team are amazing and I really commend them. I really want to give this game another chance but it seems to be run by game developers that just don't care. The entire podcast seemed to be about how the game effects LCS and not what is good for the game.

I am also going to say this, there are fans of Karma and Ryze who have been asking for months and years for you to update them . . . after you failed their reworks. There is also Mordekaiser who you forced into a lane and role that no on particularly asked for. You continue to ignore layer suggestions, kit ideas, and threads involving these characters. In the slim chance you do comment about them on Reddit, the only response we get is "we have no plans in the immediate future to update these champions." From that quote we can assume Karma is going to have to wait another 3 years for you to work on her, besides all of the failed number buffs you are giving her. Ryze is still going to be looked over because you cannot seem to get a kit right for him. Morde is going to be looked over because well . . . . you failed the recent rework with him and it's probably way to much work for you to give a crap about right now. Your Champ Up and Balance team comes off lazy, uncaring, and doesn't' rectify mistakes.

You lost this customer and I don't know if I am going to ever return. I have only stayed with this game this long because of your skin, writers, and champion concept team. Your Balance and Champ Up team don't seem to know what they are doing and take SOOOO LONG to finally do something. With the amount of money you guys make, can you not hire more people or a group of people that actually care? It doesn't look like it. I hope you guys learn from your mistakes and create a game that players can AGAIN enjoy. Right now LOL is a game that is unbalanced, broken and being run by lazy people. There are some really big highs with it but it seems to be run by people that don't give a crap. It comes off in the podcast as well.

13 Comments

Grashnim3 votes

Too many changes, not enough testing. The story of all video game fails.

Vanjie1 votes

Yeah. I cannot comprehend how the Xin, Graves, and Fiora changes . . . took SOOOO long to finally be somewhat balanced . . . if not at all. Here we are now with Kog'Maw, who I think is the worst out of all of them.

IxtaliKing3 votes

Not sure if lazy is a fair word to describe any of the devs, but I will say in regard to some champs they do seem a little uncaring. As a Karma main I feel like she's been handled very poorly, most champs who's designers still work at Riot seem like they're shown more consideration in general. Everything about Karma seems rushed, I find the fact that she was reworked so long ago and still doesn't have a haste or shield animation sad and quite telling. Not only missing animations, but a final design that looks more like a previous iteration of her concept art, the concept art itself looks like it should have been her final design. What irritates me the most about Karma is that people think just because she's more viable now than ever before, she's fine and has no issues.

Vanjie1 votes

Yes. Exactly. There is no thought or effort put into her lore, kit, and other things. A number crunch seems to be the best thing Riot is willing to do. That concept art is AMAZING and it looks 10x better than what we have now.

IxtaliKing1 votes

Her lore could get more interesting soon enough, I heard something about some new lore to do with Karma and the Black Rose not too long ago. About that art though... I don't know why they didn't go with that concept, it really is amazing and has so much more character. I just really want to know when riot plans on finishing Karma tbh.

Vanjie1 votes

They said not until the "SUPPORT MAGE" update, which is after tanks, turret divers like Lee, and juggernauts. Not until 2018. They only do two classes a year. Support mages are not getting touched for many years.

IxtaliKing1 votes

Perhaps since she needs animations and art to be completed, maybe she'll be able to have a stand alone update before then. That's just optimism though, I doubt she'll be touched at all.

Vanjie1 votes

She'll probably receive ANOTHER number buff to one of her abilities, most likely W or W+R. That is about the amount of work Riot is willing to do for her.

IxtaliKing1 votes

Probably, this is why I feel like if they're only willing to tweak her numbers they may as well revert those 5.10 changes. The changes sucked, she sucked after it was done and is only viable now because of thunderlords, new and updated items since then and shorter average games.

Vanjie1 votes

Yep. Riot thinks they are fixing her but in reality they are just prolonging a longer rework and more work they have to do.

Jasęn1 votes

Karma isn't in need of any kit updates. Neither is Ryze. What's in need of updating is player's abilities to play the game. If you can't figure out how to play around "broken" champions, ban them. If you can't figure out how to play champions you deem underpowered, don't play them. I can take any champion and play them in a broken fashion, or I can take any champion and play them in a way that makes them underpowered. As far as I'm concerned it's not the champions that need updated, it's the items. For every ad item that has a unique effect, there should be an ap item that equalizes it, and vice versa. As it stands, this means there needs to be an ap duskblade and an ad zhonyas. They also need more spell vamp items, though with the burst that ap champions have, this would probably have you crying about how broken ap champions are. This game moves back and forth in balance, if you've been around long enough you'd know that. The masteries are amazing, and bring champions that did actually struggle in season 5, back into play. Also taric needs updated. This is all. I love the fact that they brought ad carries from being underpowered champions you have to baby into real ranged powerhouses. Graves still gets shit on by vayne, as long as she knows how to use q. Figure out what counterpicking means, and you'll be much happier.

Vanjie4 votes

Ryze and Karma suffer from the same thing: a kit that is boring and doesn't help them late game.

When Karma received her rework Riot took away almost everything fun and what gave her an identity in this game. Fans want her old shield bomb back, which was fun. Fans want her fans to actually be used in some way . . . since it seems to be a primary item in her lore. Almost everything in Karma's kit is a watered down version of something else. W and W+R is a Morgana ULT. E+R is a Iron Locket. Q and Q+R seem oddly similar despite the power difference. Are you noticing a trend in her kit? What Karma really needs is a new W and W+R (or at least a better function) and passive. Should Karma have her shield bomb back? Yes. Is it going to happen? No. Karma doesn't need a lot of work. She needs an identity and kit that differs from other elements in the game.

Ryze received a bland rework and he seems very weak.

Jasęn1 votes

Okay, as far as identity goes, yeah i can agree with that, she's pretty much soraka lulu and morg on a massively short timer, and yes old karma was more fun. however, old karma was played sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo infrequently that they had to do something. now the community is in a better spot where we could appreciate old karma so to that i concede. and ryze is actually pretty balanced. if you lane against a good one he'll poop on you 50% of the time. i wish they didn't mess with ryze or veigar's kits actually i liked them both better before with the point and click.

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