The Ranked Restriction system is hilariously confusing

l Main Renekton·Jul 7, 2015·1 votes·368 views

Normal Draft WINS is so specific.

I have a buddy who lost 9 normal draft games in a row and is panicking over the demotion from decay because he can't play ranked and Riot won't let him redeem himself because he's required to WIN those games.

Can you give him some peace of mind and alter the requirement to games played of even normal draft? Winning forces an unpredictable component and under the pressure of demotion, he plays poorly. He's less toxic in general, but I can't imagine his frustration from it.

18 Comments

Deep Terror NamiJul 7, 20152 votes

They want you to put an effort into your Normal matches instead of just letting you throw your games for easy 20 minute completions. Typically players have around 50% win rate, so that is what the restriction is balanced for; if they give you 10 games to win, they expect you to do around 20 matches. Changing that and just giving you 20 matches to simply play would mean there are now ranked restricted players out in the Normal queue throwing 20 matches instead of making an honest attempt.

RueianJul 7, 20151 votes

Excpet winning in normals is actually harder than ranked, because less people take it seriously. So instead of 10-20 games you end up playing 40-60

Deep Terror NamiJul 7, 20152 votes

If you are taking it seriously, you have a better chance of winning than your opponent if everyone else in the game isn't. Statistically, you are dead wrong. If you aren't taking it seriously, then you have the same chance as the enemy and it's still even.

RueianJul 7, 20151 votes

People are more likely to play things that flat out don't work. A single player does not carry a game, but a single player can lose it.

Deep Terror NamiJul 7, 20151 votes

Your opponent has 5 people that can pick shitty things that don't work. Your team only has 4 that can do that, if you don't yourself. Therefore you have a better chance.

RueianJul 7, 20151 votes

and yet, it never works out that way. There is alot more than just champions picked that goes into that. Think of this. You playing alone lowers the chance of your team working together in comparison than the other team, because you've ruled out 5 man and lessened the chance for 4/3/2 man queues for your team.

Deep Terror NamiJul 7, 20151 votes

And you and your team are barred from premades and the opponents aren't because?...

RueianJul 7, 20151 votes

I didn't say barred, i said it is less likely.

RueianJul 7, 20151 votes

literally riot doesn't care about you the moment you get punished. i dont mean this in a mean way, just the pattern riot shows is that punished players aren't people anymore.

gatchiJul 7, 20151 votes

I dont really understand what youre describing.... are you saying that he wants to play a ranked game to prevent his LP decay, but he's afraid he'll lose LP from a straight up loss, so you want them to change how ranked works? Like i get that ranked is stressful, but that's because it's RANKED -- and why there is a difference between normals draft and ranked draft.

If he's losing a bunch of games in normals draft and he's worried about being demoted in ranked, maybe he shouldnt be worried since his rank probably doesnt reflect his skill level. Im not sure (since Riot isnt very transparent with this) but i believe your normals MMR mirrors your ranked MMR.

RueianJul 7, 20151 votes

Normal and Ranked MMR are not related in anyway. its why people see high level players in low level normals. because they dont play normals much.

SmokedAlmondsJul 7, 20151 votes

The number of games you are given is expecting you to lose about half of your games. So if the win component was removed you would just be given double the numbers of games. Except then you would have no incentive to try and the fastest way to get through your restriction would be to get your team to surrender at 20 every game.

EleshakaiJul 7, 20151 votes

You have to win the games so you can't just afk or troll

And the game tries to match equal 0premades against each other. So if you're less likely to have a premade, so are they.

l Main RenektonJul 7, 20152 votes

trolling/afking will get you reported and defeats the purpose of trying to rush defeats as by doing this you are likely to get punished again

EleshakaiJul 7, 20151 votes

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trolling/afking will get you reported and defeats the purpose of trying to rush defeats as by doing this you are likely to get punished again

They want you to have to try. It's that simple. The only way to ensure that is to require wins, but half as many as the # of games they want you to play, to account for the ~50% winrate.

So a 40 game restriction becomes a 20 win restriction, and suddenly works a whole lot better.

RueianJul 7, 20151 votes

except it doesn't. Have you been in normal draft? Its prisoner island now

EleshakaiJul 7, 20151 votes

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except it doesn't. Have you been in normal draft? Its prisoner island now

it works a WHOLE lot better than just forcing them to play 40 games and troll them.

RueianJul 7, 20153 votes

I dont agree, you assume every person who gets restrictions is just going to troll their way through the games if they arn't forced to win. That is a very small minority of an already small minority. Plus, if they do, they can rack up reports and get punished again. for the people who just want to win and move on, normals are increasingly stressful and much less predictable because people don't care.