Reason why I am toxic.

Nucleophilic atk·Oct 21, 2014·5 votes·2,010 views

I just don't get how people are this bad. There is no way it is just a bad game, or you wouldn't be fighting the fed enemy. Darius lost lane to me, did he give me 7 kills? No. Reason being he is actually smart enough not to be an idiot, that is why he was on the other team. I really don't like Riot's new rule of "LaceUp23 must have at least three feeders on his team" and I am probably done playing ranked this season because of it. I worked too hard to get into gold just to have some trolls that want to play champs for the first time in ranked get me demoted. The worse thing about this is, people say, "if you're good, you will carry and win" yet every game I play, my opponent loses lane to me and gets carried. I'm not asking to get carried, I'm just asking for teammates that aren't idiots. Riot doesn't punish these players for messing around in ranked though, so it will continue I suppose. End rant .

56 Comments

mi ramfanOct 21, 20149 votes

Unbind your enter key. You will never be toxic again.

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20142 votes

But, the point still stands.

JachtOct 21, 20144 votes

You are the only constant in your games. You will get higher ranking when you deserve it :)

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20144 votes

Literally the worse logic ever. If I am the only constant in games, then the other 9 are variables, meaning that my rank would be determined by them alone. Not too mention, I shouldn't have to carry 4 feeding players in order to get a higher rank. Also, you would be one of those players saying that I belonged in silver 5 when I was there for hundreds of games, only to climb an entire tier in a month. Yea, that makes sense from a skill standpoint.

JachtOct 21, 20141 votes

Literally the worse logic ever. If I am the only constant in games, then the other 9 are variables, meaning that my rank would be determined by them alone. Not too mention, I shouldn't have to carry 4 feeding players in order to get a higher rank. Also, you would be one of those players saying that I belonged in silver 5 when I was there for hundreds of games, only to climb an entire tier in a month. Yea, that makes sense from a skill standpoint.

You can't argue yourself out of your skill level, I'm sorry. If you are consistently better than the other people in your games, you will gain ranking. If not, then you won't. It's not other people keeping you down.

Once you realize that you can work on improving your game. Casting blame on others won't make you better.

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20143 votes

That simply doesn't explain how I climbed a whole rank in a month. Also, the people in this game were clearly not the same skill level.

JachtOct 21, 20141 votes

That simply doesn't explain how I climbed a whole rank in a month. Also, the people in this game were clearly not the same skill level.

Yes it does. You played well for that month. Good work. Just keep it up and you'll get higher!

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20141 votes

Yet, everything about my games were the exact same. As you said, "constant". My level of play did not increase.

themachamp2Oct 22, 20141 votes

Literally the worse logic ever. If I am the only constant in games, then the other 9 are variables, meaning that my rank would be determined by them alone. Not too mention, I shouldn't have to carry 4 feeding players in order to get a higher rank. Also, you would be one of those players saying that I belonged in silver 5 when I was there for hundreds of games, only to climb an entire tier in a month. Yea, that makes sense from a skill standpoint.

You can't argue yourself out of your skill level, I'm sorry. If you are consistently better than the other people in your games, you will gain ranking. If not, then you won't. It's not other people keeping you down.

Once you realize that you can work on improving your game. Casting blame on others won't make you better.

Its not just being better....you have to be A LOT better to carry some of the games you get stuck in. For example....place a gold 4 in silver 3 and see how long it takes him to get out.

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20141 votes

Exactly. Nor do I feel like I should have to carry 4 feeders in order to move up ranks. That is just bad logic.

CyndicationOct 21, 20143 votes

ye thats what happens in all divisions, this game is more luck than skill tbh, i keep fluctuating between plat1-4 all season, and there isnt a single difference in skill level, its just random, if i get a carryable team ill win, if not i lose. kids troll/afk/are horrible/ broken system pathetic waste of time. kids piss you off purposely and you keep taking but when it keeps happening, you just reach the point where you are like fuck it. i flame whenever i want could care less if i was banned probably celeberate cause this games frustrating

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20144 votes

I completely agree. I was stuck in silver 5 for the longest time because of this. Everyone on GD said it was because I suck and belonged there. I got a streak of good teammate and mad it to gold in a month of moderate playing (started pharmacy school so couldn't play as much). I am pretty sure my skill level didn't increase an entire tier in a month. What actually happened was that all the little dumb dumbs went back to elementary school, so I got better teammates :D. We play a game where bitching at an intentional feeder gets you in trouble, but intentionally feeding doesn't. That should change lol.

GranspearZXOct 21, 20142 votes

Wow. Your bottom lane had it pretty rough...

But if you didn't think 'hey, I'm wrecking my lane, I could/should roam and see if I can create pressure somewhere else', well... not sure I have a whole lot of sympathy for your situation.

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20142 votes

I did. Problem is the other team wasn't stupid. So I just wondered down there and surprise!!! Wards. Useless trip. Not to mention that when it wasn't warded I said, "let them push so I can be in range" from my tricky spots and after red trinket, only to see my team spam spells on minions to push their own lane. "having a bad game" doesn't account for purposely pushing your lane when I said let them. People are just too unintelligent to make their own decisions, and too stubborn to listen to someone else's.

GranspearZXOct 21, 20142 votes

I can just imagine what this game was like... I saw support Volibear and part of me died inside. It doesn't condone raging in-game, mind you but... I find myself agreeing that you can't really call this 'having a bad game'.

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20142 votes

Eh, I grew up playing sports where it was actually ok to yell at someone for fucking up. Better yet, kick someone out intentionally doing it. Rito has to much of a mother mentality to it. "Oh it's ok baby, just a bad game. Even though your last 10 games you go 0/15 every game."

JachtOct 21, 20141 votes

Eh, I grew up playing sports where it was actually ok to yell at someone for fucking up. Better yet, kick someone out intentionally doing it. Rito has to much of a mother mentality to it. "Oh it's ok baby, just a bad game. Even though your last 10 games you go 0/15 every game."

I realize you are upset, but the people you are playing with are the same ELO as you. They are the same skill level. Sometimes, people do have bad games. It's no reason to get upset. It all balances out in the end.

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20142 votes

So you think the person that plays zed 5 games and is 0-5 with him with a total kda of 0.58 is the same skill level as a 58% win rate 3.65 kda Fiddles? I don't. If these people were the same skill level, then I don't think they would have fed this game? I don't think they would have continued to fight the fed enemy.

JachtOct 21, 20142 votes

So you think the person that plays zed 5 games and is 0-5 with him with a total kda of 0.58 is the same skill level as a 58% win rate 3.65 kda Fiddles? I don't. If these people were the same skill level, then I don't think they would have fed this game? I don't think they would have continued to fight the fed enemy.

They are people, just like you. Sometimes, they make bad decisions. I'm betting you have before as well.

The game isn't rigged. Riot didn't single you out and give all the bad players to you and the good players to the opposite team. It all evens out. As long as you play consistently better than the other players in the game, you'll be fine.

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20142 votes

To the whole even out point: over the last 10 games, my kda has been an entire point higher than my teams. My enemy laner's kda has also been about an entire point lower than his entire team's. I don't think this is evening out xD. My team has a kda of 1.58 over my last 10 games. 1.58. If I averaged 1.58 for 10 games, I would probably cry and uninstall league. It's not about being bad or good players, it's about not being a moron. I constantly go on lolskill and it shows me matched up with 3 players that are playing champs they have 0 games with. Surprise, they feed.

XinisOct 21, 20141 votes

instead of being toxic which is a rly bad idea try looking on websites that provide you with tips and tricks to get around things like lolcounter.com for counters. there is literally no reason to be toxic it just ruins the game for everyone else. also I can see this vayne went 11/0 that obviously means he mains her and basically know everything about her and pretty much aced twitch. what I see too is that they had 3 champs with a lot of cc like liss most likely was the main engager with j4 following up now dude don't go into game being a sore loser or generally just flat toxic I rly don't want you getting chat banned then back to drafts because you couldn't improve your game

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20142 votes

First off, try using some periods or something. Your argument was really hard to follow. What I will say, I could face someone top that mains a champ, and won't give up 11 kills to them. It doesn't mean she was good, I main fiddles yet didn't get 11 kills. It means that my team was playing really stupid.

I don't go into games being a sore loser or toxic, so you are wrong. I don't even get mad at losing. I get mad when people are just fukin off because they could care a less whether they win or not.

ChimeiTekinaNasuOct 22, 20141 votes

To the whole even out point: over the last 10 games, my kda has been an entire point higher than my teams. My enemy laner's kda has also been about an entire point lower than his entire team's. I don't think this is evening out xD. My team has a kda of 1.58 over my last 10 games. 1.58. If I averaged 1.58 for 10 games, I would probably cry and uninstall league. It's not about being bad or good players, it's about not being a moron. I constantly go on lolskill and it shows me matched up with 3 players that are playing champs they have 0 games with. Surprise, they feed.

That....lolnexus replacement though. I remember when lolking was a thing. Then it was lolnexus. Now there's lolskill. I remember hearing of lolparse before for you own matches. Sadly it died shortly after I knew of it =/ Don't know why lolnexus stopped showing last season rank, and especially not sure why it stopped showing premades.

playn4allurgoldOct 22, 20142 votes

I did. Problem is the other team wasn't stupid. So I just wondered down there and surprise!!! Wards. Useless trip. Not to mention that when it wasn't warded I said, "let them push so I can be in range" from my tricky spots and after red trinket, only to see my team spam spells on minions to push their own lane. "having a bad game" doesn't account for purposely pushing your lane when I said let them. People are just too unintelligent to make their own decisions, and too stubborn to listen to someone else's.

this is a huge issue in low elo, bot lane esp never buys sweepers or pinks and clears the river wards, making alot of ganking rough and tough.

thats why when i jungle i take sweeper and buy early pinks.

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20141 votes

Yea, I always switch to reds with Fiddles. Problem is, then I don't have a yellow trinket, and nobody wards so I can't see anything xD.

ChimeiTekinaNasuOct 21, 20142 votes

I just don't get how people are this bad. There is no way it is just a bad game, or you wouldn't be fighting the fed enemy. Darius lost lane to me, did he give me 7 kills? No. Reason being he is actually smart enough not to be an idiot, that is why he was on the other team. I really don't like Riot's new rule of "LaceUp23 must have at least three feeders on his team" and I am probably done playing ranked this season because of it. I worked too hard to get into gold just to have some trolls that want to play champs for the first time in ranked get me demoted. The worse thing about this is, people say, "if you're good, you will carry and win" yet every game I play, my opponent loses lane to me and gets carried. I'm not asking to get carried, I'm just asking for teammates that aren't idiots. Riot doesn't punish these players for messing around in ranked though, so it will continue I suppose. End rant .

Was that a support Volibear and a top Morgana???? O.o

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20141 votes

Support Voli, and a mid Morg. I went top Fiddles and shit on Darius lol.

ChimeiTekinaNasuOct 21, 20141 votes

Support Voli, and a mid Morg. I went top Fiddles and shit on Darius lol.

Support Volibear... I cri everytiem... Also. I don't believe low elos like Silver/Bronze know how to do support Volibear. Is a sad, sad day when I see people taking my main into support. Cause, no, they can't do it. Silver 3, too. His runes/masteries for the bear aren't too bad. I don't think his runes are suited for support Volibear though. and Volibear into Alistar?? kk. Enjoy. Those disengages will be so real from Alistar. lol. Morgana should've been support cause of Alistar, and Volibear should've been....not Volibear.

Oh. btw. You mentioned climbing and what people say about if you belong higher then you'll be there. I also noticed you went top lane. You also mentioned being stuck in Silver for a long time. Now for my story. I was also stuck in Silver V for the longest time ever. I mained Volibear/Renekton top lane. Shen was one of my 3 top laners but I kind of gave him up for Renekton =c Won my lane most of the time, but while I was getting fed in top, enemy bot lane was getting twice as fed. Nothing I can do. Top lane just doesn't seem to be able to carry like it use to. A bit like this match you posted here. Top lane, won lane, couldn't carry. What I did to get out of the Silver pit, I gave up top lane. I went support/mid/jungle. Leona, Fizz, Skarner, and Maokai is what got me to Silver 2 in a week. Now I'm Silver 3 and taking a break from it cause f**k 20 matches of purple side in a row. So maybe you did other roles to carry yourself from Silver to Gold in a week =P Did you carry with top lane before?? Cause from my experience, it's a bit hard to carry as top lane. I went to snowball champs like Fizz instead of top lane. So to carry 4 random feeders, you should probably pick a carry role. Probably a snowball champ like Fizz/Katarina/Akali or someone else.

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20141 votes

Well, I try to play all lanes. Fiddles is my best and he is best suited for top and mid (support against a morg support xD). I do find it a lot harder for me to roam from the top lane. It is also not worth it. By the time I get to bot lane, they die. Or it is warded because their support is begging for ganks, yet doesn't have the intelligence to pink/red it to clear wards lol.

Mecha MaIphiteOct 21, 20142 votes

I used to be super toxic all the time, even in normals and stuff.

It's a habit I dropped once I realized I sounded like a ten-year old.

Nucleophilic atkOct 21, 20142 votes

Well, I don't think calling somebody that continuously chases the tank into an unwarded jungle a moron is toxic, but that is besides the point. Nor am I toxic in normal matches. I just feel like ranked is for serious play, and if you are going to dick around, you shouldn't be able to play it. I'm the nicest person in normal matches lol.

P0IS0N IVYOct 22, 20143 votes

Well, I don't think calling somebody that continuously chases the tank into an unwarded jungle a moron is toxic, but that is besides the point. Nor am I toxic in normal matches. I just feel like ranked is for serious play, and if you are going to dick around, you shouldn't be able to play it. I'm the nicest person in normal matches lol.

Yeah it is toxic actually.

Forgive me if I find it hard to believe that you're nice in normals.

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20143 votes

Well, I don't think the truth is toxic :D

And actually, I am really nice in normals. Normals don't really matter for anything. Ranked matches should be for competitive play. That is like saying you have to be a dick playing flag football with the elementary kids just because you are physical playing college football.

P0IS0N IVYOct 22, 20143 votes

Well, I don't think the truth is toxic :D

And actually, I am really nice in normals. Normals don't really matter for anything. Ranked matches should be for competitive play. That is like saying you have to be a dick playing flag football with the elementary kids just because you are physical playing college football.

Nice straw man argument that barely even made sense.

The fact that you are sitting here arguing with me about whether calling someone a moron is toxic tells me several of the issues that are preventing you from climbing in ranked.

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20142 votes

Made perfect sense. Also, my smurf hasn't been chat restricted, so I think that speaks for itself lol.

Maybe said person needs to hear that they are a moron before they actually try to improve their play. I am not sure why everything that isn't sugar coated is considered toxic. If I ask you nicely 3 times not to chase the tank, then maybe you need to be told the truth about how stupid you're being. Going with football again, I don't think it is frowned upon for coaches to yell at players, or even players to call each other out. Yet it is considered the most horrific thing in a game where a mute button exist.

P0IS0N IVYOct 22, 20142 votes

Maybe you need to learn how to actually communicate before you go around judging what's toxic and what isn't.

Actually if any coach yells at a player, then they are not going to get their best from them.

And again, based on your responses, you are proving to everyone else in this thread why you are having so much trouble in ranked.

Ironclad DragonOct 22, 20141 votes

I've never seen a match where almost everyone sucked, including the enemy team (not to offend you, OP).

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20142 votes

Not sure what would be offensive. To be honest, I don't think this is the worst match that you have seen.

Ironclad DragonOct 22, 20141 votes

Not the worst, but virtually both teams sucked. I haven't seen many of those.

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20142 votes

Yeah, you can take your trolling elsewhere.

Ironclad DragonOct 22, 20142 votes

...

Why am I trolling?

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20142 votes

So you haven't played league then? Has to be one of them if this is one of the worst games you have seen.

Ironclad DragonOct 22, 20141 votes

Has to be one of them if this is one of the worst games you have seen.

But I didn't say that. I don't know why such an accusation was thrown with so little provocation... but I did not say, "This is one of the worst games I've ever seen." I've seen worse ones. MUCH worse ones, but that usually stems from the fact that one team DOMINATES the other.

But if this screenshot is to be believed, only two people per team carried their weight. If I had more context, I probably wouldn't have said as much.

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20142 votes

If you have not seen games like this, then you have never played the game for any amount of time.

Ironclad DragonOct 22, 20142 votes

So this debate we're having then is un-winnable, because my stance is irrevocably invalid?

Nucleophilic atkOct 22, 20142 votes

Your stance makes no sense. You are saying you played against level 1's and the players were better. Please explain how you can play low levels and not see games like this. I will post games from my smurf where it is entirely one diamond smurf beating up on a bunch of bad players.

Ironclad DragonOct 22, 20141 votes

Let me rephrase my statement then, comrade. I do not, IN LIVING MEMORY, remember a game where mostly everyone sucked, and I've been playing for a year now, and seeing how the game is roughly five or six, I wouldn't consider that a small period of time.