"I will kite the tower so I can break it faster!"

Craft Zeppelin·Nov 1, 2016·2 votes·523 views

Who knows, that mean tower might intiate right towards your general direction right?

16 Comments

UnpaladinNov 1, 20162 votes

Twitching around like an unpredictable maniac is normal in this game, especially during laning phases. Why do it 90% of the time when you can do it 100% of the time :^)

D3m37r1Nov 1, 20162 votes

This has turned into a discussion about autoattacking.

Issuing a move command does not allow you to get more auto attacks in on a stationary target.
Auto attacks are limited by attack speed.
The original name of this technique is orb walking. The point is that you cancel a bit of the animation so that you can walk just a tiny bit. This is helpful when chasing a fleeing target or kiting someone that you can kill but also can kill you

This is useful for all adcs but is most prominent on Ashe and Vayne

CatastropNov 1, 20161 votes

Okay the joke went right over my head. Are you referring to when people move between autos when taking a tower?

Craft ZeppelinNov 1, 20161 votes

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Okay the joke went right over my head. Are you referring to when people move between autos when taking a tower?

Yes indeed. A lot of people makes the misconception of kiting. You can't kite something completely stationary and magically gain more attacks on it. You can only auto cancell to get that result.

CatastropNov 1, 20161 votes

magically gain more attacks on it.

You will though. Moving resets the auto timer and allows for more hits, regardless of whether or not the thing you're attacking is stationary. You only call this kiting if the thing you're attacking can move, in which you kite to maintain distance. And that's what kiting is, maintaining distance while attacking a moving target.

Craft ZeppelinNov 1, 20161 votes

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You will though. Moving resets the auto timer and allows for more hits, regardless of whether or not the thing you're attacking is stationary. You only call this kiting if the thing you're attacking can move, in which you kite to maintain distance. And that's what kiting is, maintaining distance while attacking a moving target.

You CANNOT. You can only reset the timer when you use a skill that actually resets the timer, like say broken wings. There is a limitation strapped on your attack speed. And if you cancell your animation by moving your champ, you will only get the freedom to move. thats just it.

You cannot breach the attack speed barrier making some pagan dance ritual. really

ValyrianBladeNov 1, 20161 votes

There are still reasons to move while hitting the tower...

First and most importantly, do you move while hitting creeps? The whole point of moving isn't always to kite, it can be to dodge unseen incoming projectiles.

Second, you may want to reposition for when you stop hitting the tower. I expect to take this tower then take the next wave, I want to move forward to position farther ahead. Silly to do it all at once when you can do it between your autos.

Third, Gnar wants to move in to melee range if he's about to go Mega from attacking the tower (I felt like I needed a third point).

Craft ZeppelinNov 1, 20161 votes

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There are still reasons to move while hitting the tower...

First and most importantly, do you move while hitting creeps? The whole point of moving isn't always to kite, it can be to dodge unseen incoming projectiles.

Second, you may want to reposition for when you stop hitting the tower. I expect to take this tower then take the next wave, I want to move forward to position farther ahead. Silly to do it all at once when you can do it between your autos.

Third, Gnar wants to move in to melee range if he's about to go Mega from attacking the tower (I felt like I needed a third point).

Yes, yes but I did write "completely stationary" tower right?, the condition is a completely free tower, no ezreal ults or jinx ults or nidalee spears. Afterall, this is a joke thread.

TrolosaurusNov 1, 20161 votes

It's not about kiting, it's about resetting the auto animation which saves you a fraction of a second. Depends on the champion though. Doesn't work well with lots of the newer ones due to fresher auto animations.

Craft ZeppelinNov 1, 20161 votes

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It's not about kiting, it's about resetting the auto animation which saves you a fraction of a second. Depends on the champion though. Doesn't work well with lots of the newer ones due to fresher auto animations.

Ok ok, you are REALLY mistaking something. Auto attacks are restricted within a timer which is regulated within your attack speed. In which 1 auto attack can only be done in a certain frame. You simply CANNOT do the stuff you written down. You cannot spawn some "new attacks", out of the restricted frame.

There is no merit at all to kite the stationary tower unless a skillshot is incoming

CatastropNov 1, 20162 votes

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You simply CANNOT do the stuff you written down. You cannot spawn some "new attacks", out of the restricted frame.

You're not spawning new attacks in the same timeframe, you're cancelling the animation that follows the auto by issuing a movement command. If you do it right, you end up getting more attacks in because now the only delay between autos is the wind up.

Craft ZeppelinNov 1, 20161 votes

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You're not spawning new attacks in the same timeframe, you're cancelling the animation that follows the auto by issuing a movement command. If you do it right, you end up getting more attacks in because now the only delay between autos is the wind up.

HAHA! Gotcha! I knew someone would come up to that! If your theory is true, why hasn't a single pro not discovered how to do 10 auto attacks at 1 second at level 1 by spamming your said cancell? Even a script should have found this exploit aye?

An ancient thread from 2013 would prove my point is valid.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3213796

CatastropNov 1, 20161 votes

Mate I talked about this.

If you do it right, you end up getting more attacks in because now the only delay between autos is the wind up.

Mecha MaIphiteNov 1, 20161 votes

Maybe they want to stack up items item 3087 item 3285

Craft ZeppelinNov 1, 20161 votes

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Maybe they want to stack up items

Actually, there are some matches where pros do stay stationary and sometimes start kiting with no reason. hmm.... item 3094