When PBE players tell Riot to not change something

General Esdeath ·Sep 6, 2016·53 votes·1,970 views

Riot:

https://scontent.fewr1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14222212_328965410772758_3898296307086099316_n.png?oh=4d051101c96c5d50d2a8ca555bf15360&oe=58848D82

21 Comments

IceKingChernobogSep 6, 201614 votes

KogMaw 's W changed(NO ONE ASKED FOR THAT) A change to XinZhao that made him broken for 1 patch then riot nerfed the hell outta him the next patch Kalista Ekko Yasuo Azir No one asked for these 4 either.

IcyPepperSep 6, 20162 votes

Adding the passive AS to his W was a mistake, but you have to admit that doubling the AS cap during W activation certainly makes him unique.

If it was capable of not being a balancing nightmare, I'd be much more open to it.

Although, Ekko isn't all that bad. He's got one good thing going for him: a kickass theme song.

D3m37r1Sep 6, 20167 votes

Basically the juggernaut rework.

JalkanSep 6, 201620 votes

https://res.cloudinary.com/zergid-com/image/upload/v1/public/uploads/media/qpau4gz1rjdrarx.jpg k

JerulEonSep 6, 20161 votes

Ow, my eyes. That gives me flashbacks.

morris1Sep 6, 20166 votes

Brb trying Kennen juggernaut.

EDIT: lmao https://gyazo.com/b55fb15d04070273ba696bd2ad6432ca

MavenSongSep 6, 20161 votes

Well, due to his kit, kennen is inherently not a Juggernaut. His entire kit is CC.

Yah I know, im bringing gameplay into M&G, ill see myself out.

morris1Sep 6, 20161 votes

nah you can check edit boss

EDIT: edit*

DunkinNoobsSep 6, 201610 votes

{quoted}

https://res.cloudinary.com/zergid-com/image/upload/v1/public/uploads/media/qpau4gz1rjdrarx.jpg k

That's ironic because that Skarner winrate of is the result of NOT ignoring the PBE players when they should have. "Skarner is so weak rah rah rah".

DecritSep 6, 201623 votes

eeeeehm

"Riot plz buff Skarner he feels useless"

If anything the pbe community had to be blamed for that too, since they proposed the shittiest changes.

Solari FortuneSep 6, 20161 votes

This is why Riot doesn't listen the most to the PBE often. It is such a small amount of players compared to Live

Troll for TrumpSep 7, 20164 votes

Yes, but he did need buffs... just not THAT many.

Mordekaiser needed a rework, but CT basically just ignored everyone complaining about shoehorning him into a melee bot lane ADC.

Darius and Garen didn't need reworks.

DecritSep 7, 20161 votes

Mordekaiser changes actually made a lot of sense, even thought he exxagerated on him. Having champions rely on other is something essential to a team-based multiplayer game, since allows champions to be more unique and to nail down strategic diversity. morde's lack of rilevant cc and mobility, as pointed out by the community, made him have a lot of sense being paired with a support which instead provides cc and sometimes speed boosts too. This means he was supposed to go as adc? Neh. It was done harshly? Yes, i don' t love the experience boost on W. But it made sense. In fact to this day his builds revolve around negating his mobility problems.

Darius "unduellable dude that when fed shots with almost no visual cues" and Garen "noobtrap" needed those changes, trust me.

Also remember - we ar enot talking about reworks here, but updates. It' s just a word, but speaks a different reality than reworks like Sion' s and such.

Troll for TrumpSep 7, 20163 votes

Mordekaiser yeah, he was kinda an experiment for CT. TBH, almost all of CertainlyT's champs feel like experiments. They're all unique and flavorful, but pretty dang toxic gameplaywise.

Darius "unduellable dude that when fed shots with almost no visual cues"? Give him %missing healing, and having his passive make him even more unduelable. I miss playing old darius.

Garen noob trap is still a noob trap. Except this time he's a crppy noob trap, being even worser off than when he was pre-rework. Right now, he is basically a shitter Darius. I also miss old Garen

DecritSep 7, 20161 votes

At least new darius actually takes time to kill you, and you have time to react - old one had a flurry of W-reduced cd attacks and you could do and understand shit. Plus he had a lot of barely visible power, the Q was basically a free-to-cast damage and W reduced your attack speed. Even the heal can be negated, even thought i admit there aren' t many visual cues and i don' t understand if my fatass champions actually avoid him an heal or not, but still there is.

Garen can' t i say much, but if now he is a worse Darius before he was nonexistant.

Troll for TrumpSep 7, 20161 votes

No. He's a LOT worse with the rework(Garen).

If you'ver ever played him pre-rework, you'd know.

DorkunedAurasSep 6, 20161 votes

The juggernauts were OP BECAUSE the PBE told them to buff. They were going to be released fairly balanced.

ThunderDadSep 6, 20162 votes

Well its short to say, not many players liked playing the champions that were changed then because it made balanced champions with a playerbase without them.

Sa6koSep 7, 20162 votes

to be honest, the PBE just stands there so shitty youtubers can make videos for the upcoming patches. ( don't get me wrong, there are still people using PBE the way its meant to be, but whatever) . The malzahar hotfix really pissed me off - like, why the fuck didnt you fix this in the PBE you carrots ??? With this said, why the hell does the PBE even exist if you gonna hotfix champions in the middle of the patch smh

General Esdeath Sep 7, 20162 votes

I know, I remember when it was for testing. Now it's just for RedMercy to make clickbait calling every new champ OP

Sa6koSep 9, 20162 votes

exactly mate