That moment when the support steals your kill and says, "Sorry."

Blade of Justic·Aug 18, 2015·80 votes·13,487 views

and you're all like "A fed support is a happy ADC."

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77 Comments

SinlaireAug 18, 201533 votes

especially when it's a Leona .

baby girl tanks for days for you, and only wants to hear you say "gj" when you're done.

TaarkiAug 19, 201525 votes

I love when my support takes a kill, and I say its okay, assist is better than nothing, and the support like breaks down because most other adc would have flamed the Sh*T out of them for accidently taking a kill. I love how relieved they are. And the best part, usually because they experienced a nice adc they will do all the more to try to protect me and win the game.

SeikamoomooAug 19, 201513 votes

getting your support to like you makes the game so much better. 10/10 recommend

BaunjoAug 19, 20153 votes

Yeah bitching at any member of your team is 100% counter productive.

darapier17Aug 20, 20151 votes

as a sona main i wholeheartedly agree. A nice adc is a beautiful thing to behold

8th EspadaAug 20, 20151 votes

Garen : "DEMACIA!!" Garen Shut down Thresh You Vayne : Just as planned..

BoxOfDOGAug 19, 201524 votes

Playing Sivir , uses summoner 4 and ult to chase Ahri , autos 3 times and chunks her

Thresh Q's and takes the kill Thresh : "WOOPS. SORRY DUDE." Sivir : "Nah brah. I've got 7 kills. You deserve it."

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MrWasjigAug 19, 20152 votes

As a Thresh main, this has happened one too many times xD

Br4ndonAug 19, 201519 votes

i let the carry know that i saw them trying to KS me

XyrneAug 19, 20158 votes

I've never apologized for getting a kill. More money on the support means more money they can spend helping the rest of the teams' ungrateful asses.

TurquoiseYoshiAug 19, 20154 votes

Except most supports are made to work with low gold. That's why they are supports, because if they needed much gold, they would be in a position where you get consistent gold.

XyrneAug 19, 20158 votes

"Work with low gold" doesn't mean they aren't better with gold. Which they are.

Sozan5Aug 19, 20154 votes

Everyone is better with a lot of gold. However, they don't need it in order to be effective, nor are they more effective with it than carry champions (of course, it depends on a champion, but that's the general idea).

That said... It's okay to get a kill as a support if there was a risk involved in leaving the kill to other member of the team (usually it's either you/teammates in danger of dying or enemy having a chance to escape - which, if you think about it, is how most kills are, so don't feel bad about securing them). And of course, there are tons of simply unplanned kill steals and those aren't a big deal either.

However, if you are playing a support champion and purposely try take a decent amount of kills (usually by saving big abilities until they will kill the target instantly - which also can lead to enemy escaping or killing your allies) then you are gimping your own team, by feeding yourself gold that your team needs to be effective (contrary to yourself). Also, if you do this and your carry is Draven then I hate you.

TaarkiAug 19, 20155 votes

You have never had a full AP raka heal you...

4th Chiming LambAug 19, 20155 votes

Full AP Raka is the female Jesus.

Luner HunterAug 20, 20151 votes

full ap raka ... dat Q hurts Q_Q specially at the center!

Rundus1Aug 19, 20152 votes

{quoted}

Everyone is better with a lot of gold. However, they don't need it in order to be effective, nor are they more effective with it than carry champions (of course, it depends on a champion, but that's the general idea).

That said... It's okay to get a kill as a support if there was a risk involved in leaving the kill to other member of the team (usually it's either you/teammates in danger of dying or enemy having a chance to escape - which, if you think about it, is how most kills are, so don't feel bad about securing them). And of course, there are tons of simply unplanned kill steals and those aren't a big deal either.

However, if you are playing a support champion and purposely try take a decent amount of kills (usually by saving big abilities until they will kill the target instantly - which also can lead to enemy escaping or killing your allies) then you are gimping your own team, by feeding yourself gold that your team needs to be effective (contrary to yourself). Also, if you do this and your carry is Draven then I hate you.

Depending on the support, this isn't always a bad thing. For instance, when I'm Annie or Sona support and I accidentally steal first blood at lv 3 cuz i q'd an enemy lucian or something when it was uncertain whether or not my adc could get him, that adc better not complain too much. When I come back lv 5 with a sightstone and an amp tome while their sup has a ruby crystal and lucian has 2 dorans, the adc doesn't need to worry. There will be plenty more kills in lane. Of that, I can assure them. same with Sona. Once my team was invaded and I got a triple with Sona with my q. used it twice, got 3 kills. The adc got all kinds of angry at me, but I walked back into lane with a level advantage and a fiendish codex. I didn't ks those kills, I fired an ability into a moshpit and got lucky. That lane was mine and it was only my consideration for my carry that stopped me from q-auto-ing until the enemies died from my harass. Occasionally, I'll get an adc who yells at me for picking Sona cuz they think I'll ks and then get angry when one of my q projectiles hits a cs and takes it. Once they start the insults I skip the sight stone and get Sheen ->Ludens ->Lich bane ->Haunting Guise with sorc shoes and give them a real reason to fear my ks. I don't tolerate toxic af carries who think they're gods when they lock in MF or Varus and feed whilst trash talking. Aint havin none of that. If it's a Draven doing this to me, I'll show leniency if they quit being toxic and dedicate my AP to helping him get kills rather than to getting them myself and all will be fine. I am not unreasonable, I just have standards.

Sozan5Aug 19, 20152 votes

First of all, I completely agree that flaming for a kill "steal" (or at all to be honest) is unforgivable.

Second, I did write that it depends on champion type you pick and even made emphasis on "if you are playing a support champion" rather than just support. Champions like Annie or Brand are mages, even if they are played on a support role. Sona can be both. And then there are picks like Leona, Nami or Braum, which are the support champions (as they tend to build support items (generally items that benefit the whole team, rather than only themselves). I mean, sure... You can build Braum as a mage, but it won't be as effective as support build or tank build).

As for the Draven, the important part is taking the kills on purpose. If it happens by accident, then it's all right, but if you are playing that Annie that waits with her freaking Tibbers until enemy is on 15% health (sadly, I met a support like that) then you are severely reducing effectivness of your team (as his passive can easily be worth another kill or even two). And of course, even then you shouldn't flame as Draven (mostly because flame serves no purpose at all, not because you don't feel like it).

Rundus1Aug 19, 20152 votes

Yea, sorry if i sounded a bit ticked. I spent the entirety of season 4 as a support main only with no other skills (my friends brought me onto League to be their support, so that was all I knew) and the biggest annoyance was flaming adcs. I once played with a Trist as Leona and for some reason, my w going off got every kill. I was an 11/0/? Leona at 20 minutes and was so tanky I could 1v3, and by that point I couldn't stop my own base damages from being high (I was easily 4-5 levels ahead of her cuz i started roaming to try and give her time to get killls). Idk what happened that game, but Trist spent the entirety of it calling me a trash fag. I have never accidentally stolen so many kills in any other instance, but being an 11/0 Leona sup is a feeling I can only describe as the equivalent of fed Mundo with hard cc and a gap closer. It was so fun after my entire team muted trist. Likewise though, I get the flaming in that situation. If I could've stopped my w, I would've, and it must've been incredibly frustrating to be an adc that went 0/0/? (i think it was 7 when I left lane) with a fed Leona that seems to get every kill. That one is totally understandable (I still kinda want it to happen again though. I have never enjoyed Leona as much as I did that game).

ChaoticPineconeAug 19, 20151 votes

back in the day when supports ended the game with boots, shurelias, and randiuns (when they were feD) this was true.

But now, supports spike as hard as carries do - the just dont do the damage. Take item 3050 - when i finish this item, its activation gives you more crit than if you just bought the 50% crit yourself.

ShosukoAug 19, 20151 votes

Critting a on a bf swords is not as great as completing an ie.

ChaoticPineconeAug 19, 20155 votes

and getting 50% crit from your support is better than not getting 50% crit from your support.

Sozan5Aug 19, 20153 votes

I wouldn't say that they spike as hard as carries, even though they do spike more than they used to (ah, the ~~good~~ old times of Boots, Philo Stone and/or Heart of Gold + Wards and nothing else). Especially Zeke augments an already strong carry, usually with an IE. Without IE, the support power spike is much lower (and you would usually prefer to having ADC with IE rather than ADC without one and you with Zeke - of course, optimal option would be to have both).

And on another note - I can bet Zeke will be nerfed (after players will realize how huge amounts of stats it gives).

TurquoiseYoshiAug 19, 20154 votes

They are better with gold, but the ADC is much better with gold. When you can choose between the guy who is gonna stand there and tank hits/the guy who's gonna engage and then immediately die, or the guy who's doing 50% of your team's damage, who would you rather have gold go to. Many teams fall into the trap of feeding their tank and then falling off late game because that person will do jack squat in fights other than do a little CC and then hope that the enemy focuses them.

Rundus1Aug 19, 20151 votes

{quoted}

They are better with gold, but the ADC is much better with gold. When you can choose between the guy who is gonna stand there and tank hits/the guy who's gonna engage and then immediately die, or the guy who's doing 50% of your team's damage, who would you rather have gold go to. Many teams fall into the trap of feeding their tank and then falling off late game because that person will do jack squat in fights other than do a little CC and then hope that the enemy focuses them.

It wasn't a trap in tank meta, and it still isn't with the right teams. I still find 2-3 tanks per team to be extremely effective versus teams with 1. Fed tanks get fed teams from fights where the Sion half-healthed you while you were knocked up, slowed, knocked up again, and burned with sunfire cape. You get past him? Have fun with Leona. Got past her? How about Gragas? If you made it past him, you deserve a shot at the carries.

TurquoiseYoshiAug 19, 20151 votes

That would not happen. That is assuming that 3 tanks all got fed. If 3 tanks got fed, then yes, it's good. But if only one gets fed, then you won't be doing basically any damage in fights. If I fed my lane opponent Sion, then he'll have CC, and he'll tank hits. That is all. We don't even need to look at him until we've killed everyone else.

Rundus1Aug 19, 20151 votes

That heavily depends on who you are. I usually find that as Sion I can stop most people, with the exception of blink-based assassins like Talon, Zed, and Katarina. LB is a bit tough, but usually I just put myself far enough between my team and theirs that they cant hit my team without dealing with me first and that doesnt go well for them. Or I just ult in and do devastating amounts of damage with mah ult, but thats a lot less reliable. I do see your point in that a fed tank is less damage, but they've put in a good deal of work (especially recently) to make sure that tanks still do decent to good damage usually.

TurquoiseYoshiAug 19, 20151 votes

Full tanks cannot really do that much damage. Sure, BRUISER items give bruisers more options for damage + tank, but if somebody like Mao'kai wants to build full tanky items, you aren't doing much damage.

Rundus1Aug 20, 20151 votes

One item usually suffices. For instance, devourer udyr. Or Darius in general. Or Cho'gath with a rod of ages. They wont carry a game, but they'll often do enough to kill squishies pretty easily (except Cho against sustain.

The12thman94Aug 19, 20154 votes

Pretty much.. I hate when an adc complains about you stealing a kill and its like " I just saved your butt, and if I didn't auto attack him you might have died" like honestly...

VerxintAug 19, 20154 votes

I just feel bad cause you know they probably have people explode at them and throw games over a ks.

I've noticed the lower the ELO, the more often the supp apologizes for ksing

Ariel the CruelAug 19, 20153 votes

The higher the elo, the less people care.

I urgot about itAug 19, 20152 votes

or even talk

Nuclear PandaAug 19, 20151 votes

you have to apologize and kiss his feet in low elo or else the adc will afk

fractalfantasiesAug 19, 20154 votes

I main ADC and the best thing is when the supp accidentally KS's and start apologising, about to completely break down and expects you to totally lambaste them for it

item 3070 Leona

'It's OK man, well played' Vayne

The truth is most of the benefit of the kill comes from farming unhindered, their loss of farm, taking drake and pushing turrets rather than the kill itself; often supps seem to accidentally KS, whilst saving me from a really close fight with the enemy ADC (when they pop their CC or something) so I am happy.

BaunjoAug 19, 20152 votes

Holy shit thank you! Someone said what I was about to say.

RiotBioluminescenceAug 20, 20154 votes

Thank you so much. I mostly support, and I feel so bad when a rogue Sona Q (which I did to try to buff my allies) does more damage than I expected and takes the kill. I can't type sorry fast enough!

AviouslyAug 18, 20153 votes

yep, i love adcs like that and do the same when im adc. lol but there was a quinn a supported with karma and she told me to walk away from the enemy when they were low so i wouldn't accidentally take the kill. and complained that the jg took all the kills. there are always those people

SociopathFriendAug 19, 20153 votes

To be fair, sometimes the ADC needs KS'd- like I've had games where I just outright told my team, "Screw this- we have two APCs because this ADC can't do anything."

The only two times I have ever totally deserted my ADC and gone full APC in the botlane like this I have carried super hard as Nami and Karma . The Karma one in particular was nerve-wracking as hell when I had to stop a backdooring Yi AND Rengar by myself while the rest of my team pushed for the win. That was one of the hardest things I have ever done in LoL.

BaunjoAug 19, 20151 votes

Full AP Karma is very scary

Ariel the CruelAug 19, 20153 votes

Had an ADC complain about me stealing a kill in lane. It was an accident, I apologized. Later, I intentionally stole the tower kill. No Apologies.

DazedOnlookerAug 19, 20152 votes

I take ALL tower kills when i can...Especially if my adc is doing just fine 5/0 while i'm still 0/0....If i can't have the champ kills, i just take the turrets, i gotta be selfless sometimes so i can have something to fall back on later..

I have yet to get any backlash for last hitting towers though.

FistOfSharkieshaAug 19, 20153 votes

Fed Annie support is like 15X scarier than a fed adc.

blueberrypancakeAug 19, 20152 votes

I say this when I play ADC and i accidentally take a kill from a losing lane

But its k cuz ADC Kennen wins teamfights for you

DazedOnlookerAug 19, 20152 votes

I had an ADC get angry at me for taking a kill. I Took it because i knew that my ADC wouldn't be able to tower dive for the last hit having like 10% hp and all.. Then later a 1 hit kill got away because i knew my adc would get angry at me for finishing him off, but my adc died tower diving him. He got angry at me because it was somehow my fault the kill got away(i could have flash Q'd him under turret but i refrained), while only he died..my W was on CD at the time as well.

Sona

League of PotatoAug 19, 20152 votes

Gotta love being Blitzcrank and getting bitched at when your ult passive steals a kill. Sorry bro, literally have no control over that.

"Run the other direction then!" And let you die? Okay, I'll keep that in mind next time you dive their turret.

^actual occurrence in game. I swear adcs are real pieces of work sometimes.

chaosdrakoAug 19, 20152 votes

i main supports i especially find it funny when i do all the dmg because the adc just sits there like a rock farming then crys when i do 100% of the dmg and kill someone then they are like omg why support ks? its like -_- get your cs and just stfu dont even speak i will carry as support you just sit stay and roll over on command.

AlphariteAug 19, 20151 votes

I never bash my support for taking a kill unless they've done it 4-5 times and it's blatantly clear they're doing it on purpose.

Like I actually feel bad when a Thresh apologizes for hook-killing an escaping enemy.

DazedOnlookerAug 20, 20153 votes

Ive done this a few times with Thresh on accident..sometimes i forget that the hook itself actually does dmg. xD

I'm usually like

Thresh "Oh snap this dood has like 4hp lets reel him in for my adc, I got this!"

Hooks He dies instead

Thresh "Oh............oh no.."

(everyone including my adc) "Good job Thresh"

Thresh Meanwhile i'm Lost in thought still feeling bad about the ks

RaguAug 20, 20151 votes

Guess i've been playing support wrong since the bot lane meta came to fruition all those years ago. Oh well, fighter Taric is more valuable than some adc.