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Bottom Laner62 votesEither the guy falling gets paid in the millions or he works in the world's greatest hospital
Oakleaf Ranger19 voteswhere do people get this comic strip, cause every time I see it I end up loving it.
The Deckowner6 votesit's a meme called boardroom meeting.
GetMariahCarried1 votesIs... is he talking about his hair?
Bladerunner777735 voteswhen you're trying to appeal to every circlejerk at once
Arsenic Sulfur34 votesOkay he genuinely deserved being thrown out the window on the second to last one. A mere pink ward doesn't stop Shaco from taking the long way and rigging your escapes with boxes.
elon wątroba25 votesAt least he has outplay/outsmart you.
DrCyanide25 votesThis is what I like about Shaco, he's less of a 100-0 Assassin and more an "I actually outsmarted you" assassin.
RoodToob14 votesHe is an "Outsmarting" assassin, but i think most of us have been 1-2 hit by shaco Autos before
Noam Braumsky5 votesI feel like once you're getting 1-2 hit by said Shaco he's already done his fair share of outsmarting in order to get that strong in the first place.
Trash MammaI2 votesAs a Shaco main I disagree and have to say that a pink ward will damn near eliminate his presence in the game
The Deckowner5 votes1 pink ward might not do much, but 5 will do the job. At lest shaco isn't invisible all the time, you can have green wards in the jg entrance to see which way he's heading.
D2Vincent2 votesYou know, there's a trick I saw where you can put a Pink ward safely away from where someone would usually catch one, but if you put a green ward near it, that green ward will sort of "Extend" the range of the pink ward.
Jet Sett24 votes
" As an incredible bursty assassin with hard CC, just be glad I can't wave clear AND 100-0 you at the exact same time, I can come close, but no cigar."
The Deckowner17 votesthe cigar meme doesn't eve work anymore, rito confirmed graves vape. it is the same as kassadin's joke about silencing his mom.
Ayasaki12324 votes... Maybe something is just going over my head, but "no cigar" is an old saying. It has nothing to do with Graves.
And yes, I know about the "Graves still can't have a cigar" meme. The two phrases are unrelated.
Mad King Hades2 votesI propose a new champion. He smokes a pipe.
zlumpy5 votesAnd his name is graves!
KONO RUBICK DA16 votesAnd his name is john cena!
Mad King Hades4 votesNope, he is Smokey the bear.
Blue Moon Wolf10 votesMe: Gee, I wonder what class Riot is going to work on next. I sure hope it's divers :D
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/Tnfw1WW6-next-class-update-the-assassins
http://img.pandawhale.com/80458-Im-Out-Leslie-Nielsen-Airplane-6Zf5.gif
Come get me in another 6 months...
DrCyanide5 votesYeah... I'll be taking a patch or two break after that one...
Theiki Kayle10 votesI don't get what the big deal with Shaco is. Sure, a good one is frustrating, but I just beat a lv 7 Shaco with my lv 5 Amumu and it wasn't even that difficult. Shaco falls off the face of the Earth once teamfights start happening.
A good trick is to immediately start buff instead of Krugs or Gromp and then double-time it to the other buff (unless the Shaco is extraordinary you'll be double buffed and with high enough health to survive his early cheese attempt). Bring some hard engage against him and force teamfights. If he's not fed his 100-0 on the squishy will fail and you can just ignore his baits and destroy his turrets.
The Deckowner10 votesPeople just have no map awareness and never buy pink ward, and they start circlejerking about shaco being op.
Theiki Kayle3 votesNobody tricks the trickster. And they also get baited into chasing him and getting themselves killed too easily.
Shaco=Karma=Singed=Morgana.
Don't chase those four, please, just take their turrets if they try to bait a chase.
Naag One3 votesWhen I'm jungler I am not worried that shaco will kill me.
It's my bot lane that I know is going to feed him
Theiki Kayle2 votesOr mid lane. Those Yasuos who never stop pushing always act so surprised.
Quort1 votesJokes on you! I never go for the level 2 cheese because I'm too afraid of a devastating failure that will set me far back!
Theiki Kayle2 votesI was Diana jungle once, Shaco tried a lv 2 cheese but my team came immediately and I got FB. After I powerfarmed to 6 I just ran into his jungle and oneshot him and anybody else who tried to stop me.
That's the fun thing with Diana, her scaling is so good that if you try to cheese her and fail she'll just outscale you faster.
Slamurai Jack6 votesWhat is with the boards hard on for Talon? You guys whine and cry about Rengar killing you instantly but Talon doing it is ok? Someone please explain.
The Deckowner3 votesBecause Talon gets abuse by basically every match up in lane, have reasonable mana cost, and the most recent change to him added 30s cd to his ult.
He is like a stepchild of Rito, never gets any love and immediately nerfed when he sees a raise in winrate. Similar to Sejuani and Teemo.
Supreme Senpai692 votesHonestly I feel like it's just easier to agree than disagree on the boards. If someone complained about Zac people will think back to the frustrating games against him and agree, saying things like "You cant ward against him and you cant even kill him." Even though nothing about him has changed in the last who-knows-how-long, and he was fine before, it will just now become a "circlejerk."
It's more "whats the circlejerk of the month" rather than "whats OP?" I'm not saying the two don't ever overlap, but Talon could have a 60% win rate and we still might all complain about Yauso. It feels really random.
DeynaTaggerung5 votesExcept Zed and Yasuo have really interesting kits with plenty of counterplay O.O
You think I'm joking? Zed's ult doesn't give him up front burst but delays it so enemies have time to react (lifesteal, zhonyas, exhaust). His w has a long cd so if he uses it you can abuse him. He has some range and easy minion executes so he his laning phase doesn't get trashed on but neither should he dominate it. Q can be juked
Yasuo has plenty of mobility which kinda sucks and requires you to understand what his objective is. If you can accurately predict where he's going to dash to (watch your minions to see which he is targeting, or he might be going at you) then deal damage there. Better yet if you're ranged you want to get him on the first dash as he's approaching minions. The first minion is way more predictable than the 2+, if he's already in the wave maybe back off a bit and respect it. He can't get his knockup unless he's in the thick of things fighting so once again zoning properly will help stop that threat, it's also a skillshot and can be dodged. Baiting out his shield and passive is also possible so they definitely have counterplay. In fact I think yasuo was designed to have so much counterplay it's crazy. If the yas is really good then he can wreck but if his opponent can properly punish he can't do much.
And no, I'm a squishy immobile mid lane mage main 
. I'd much rather Talon, leblanc, and akali get worked on because their kits don't have that kind of counterplay. (Theoretically leblanc's kit should be in reality she's generally played pretty linearly so actually having meaningful choice would be good)
The Deckowner3 votesfrustration factor doesn't really mean there is no counterplay. Reason why people hate champions like lb yasuo and Zed is because their kit gives them too much choices. Basically when you fight against them as someone with less mobiliity, you are left with: 1)Unable to fight when they don't want to and 2) Have to fight when they want to.
DeynaTaggerung1 votesI guess, but I just can't say I've ever felt that way about zed or yas, I always feel like I have a pretty clear path to fighting against them. Leblanc on the other hand I understand your frustration factor because her damage is all ranged plus she has quick mobility. The real issue with her though is that it's so easy for her to get in and then out right away. With Zed or yas they need to stick around to get their damage down and I can fight them then, use my exhaust(always worth it) and punish them for going in. If I try to do that to leblanc she'll just jump back and wait 20 seconds to lol at me because my cd's are all blown.
NineTailedMystic2 votesWith Zed and Yasuo it feels less like you can outplay them, and more they have to outplay themselves.
The Deckowner2 votesexactly, with other assassins like talon you feel like he has to do something like dodging your cc with his E to outplay you, meanwhile when you face zed yaso leblanc you kind of need themselves to fuck up in order for you to do anything.
The Great Divide1 votesIn the end, with Zed and LB, yeah it's gonna be hard to do something. But if you just focus on farming rather than trying to kill them (and warn when they roam), chances are you picked a champ that's more reliable late game and in teamfights.
With Talon, it's much harder to do something about him because his burst is just so fast, so even if he was stomped in lane, he can very easily roam and pick up kills elsewhere and just take over the game.
I'd agree for Yasuo though. With him, it is mostly picking champs that counter him and stomping him, because he actually is a terror in teamfights.
The Deckowner1 votesTalon is a typical feast or famine assassin tho, if he isn't fed he does no dmg.
also lb's burst is much faster than Talon, it is also point and click and she can just w back to safety after killing someone.
Almighty4 votesOk, first, Yasuo is not in the "assassin" class. He is in the "annoying dashy fighter" class along with 
and 
.
Second, how did the guy who got thrown out the window climb back up again so fast without any serious injuries?
Almighty.
Blue Moon Wolf3 votesActually and 
are Skirmishers (which I believe would be the "annoying dashy fighters") and is a Diver. Divers are listed under fighters and Skirmishers are listed under a new class with assassins called "slayers" :
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list
Honestly I don't see too much of a difference between divers and slayers, but either way, this is supposed to be the "assassin" update, not the "assassin plus anything else we want to throw in" update. There is already a long list of champ who need some work when they go to work on the Diver class, we don't need the possibility of them adding a champ from another group on top of it.
EvilUnicornLord3 votesBeing a "not-assassin" main.
I don't get it.
The Deckowner7 votesOh I thought non-assassin mains would get this better.
Aids cuz League2 votesLets be honest here, the Kassadin Q balance was complete laziness, it says Kassadins Q will stop channeled abilities and that's its passive. But what they don't realize is that in their own game, 2 problems exist:
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There is literally a rare amount of channeled abilities, and even fewer are actually threatening abilities.
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Uhhh.. EVERY OTHER Crowd Control stops it too. This is what gets me the most. During Vel'Koz channeled ult, guess what, I got snared, that somehow stops my ult even though im in place(needs testing as it only happens sometimes?). Knockup, Pushing aside(Draven), Stun, Silence, Thrown Into Walls(Gnar) I include slows on this list because honestly if ur channeling an ult and ur slowed ur pretty much dead cause while u were slowed they just walked around it or away from it.
And it doesn't even work on Fiddles ult cause you have to use it before he gap closes with it lol. It really is a joke and I apologize for turning this so serious.
Kingnewgameplus1 votesThey don't need to give kass a silence for him to be useful.
Just make it so that he doesn't need 3 items to do the damage of a lvl 4 yasuo.
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