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Now that he's getting really popular, I wanna have a discussion about Fizz

Fisherman Fizz·10/10/2013, 12:34:20 AM·3 votes·187 views

I'm mostly copy/pasting this from a topic I made on the Vbulletin forums HERE

Fizz

Ok, so since the day he was released Fizz has been my favorite champion. I've played more games with him than with anyone else and I play him much better than I do anyone else. Until recently he's never been a common pick, but recently his pick rate has completely skyrocketed, especially after Worlds. This is the first time he's ever been picked this often even though he himself has never received a balance change since February 2012. So with that in mind, I have a lot of questions I'd like to ask you guys to get a better idea of what you all think about him in general and to try and figure out why he's being considered a much stronger champion now than he was before. I'm going to try to avoid giving most of my opinions in this post because I don't want my bias to get in the way.

Questions about his playstyle:

  • Do you feel like he's fun to play? What about him do you think is the most fun and what do you think is the least fun?

  • Is he fun to play against? What parts of playing against him are the most frustrating?

  • At what parts of the game do you feel strongest when playing as him? When in the game does he feel strongest when playing against him?

  • What skill order do you like to use the most? Which skill order do you think is the strongest?

  • Have you ever played as or against Fizz using a bruiser/AD centered build instead of AP? If so, do you like the playstyle more or less than his standard AP build?

  • Do you use a different set of summoner spells than summoner 4 and summoner 14 ? If so, why do you use those spells instead?

Questions about balance:

  • Do you feel like he's overpowered, underpowered, or balanced? Why do you think so?

  • What parts of his skillset are the strongest? What parts are the weakest? Do you think any of those things being strong/weak are a problem?

  • Are there any specific points in the game where Fizz feels like he's too powerful or too weak?

  • Do you feel like it is too difficult or too easy to stop a Fizz player after they get fed?

  • Do you feel like it is too difficult or too easy to come back into the game as Fizz if you fall behind?

  • Who do you think he counters/is countered by? How much room do you feel like there is to outplay or be outplayed by all of his matchups?

Questions about items:

  • Are there any items that you feel work much better with Fizz than others? Do you feel like it's a problem that they work well with him?

  • Does buying item 3157 make you feel significantly safer when playing him? If so, does it feel like it's a problem?

  • Do item 3057 / item 3100 feel like they give too large of a power spike on him?

  • Do you feel like his playstyle changes significantly after finishing item 3100? More specifically, do you feel like you no longer rely on his E or Ult for damage as much after finishing it?

  • Do you think item 2041 gives him too much early sustain? Does the lack of combat stats it gives compared to someone who starts with another item make up for it?

Those are all the questions I have for now. Feel free to answer as few or as many as you like, or none at all if you'd rather mention something else that I didn't bring up. If you have any questions about Fizz, whether they're technical questions about how his abilities work or just want to know my opinion about a certain lane matchup or item or something I will do my best to answer those as well. I'll read every reply and do my best to respond to as many people as I can so long as the posts are constructive. ^_^

3 Comments

Katsumoto10/10/2013, 4:49:55 AM1 votes

When playing him, I feel like zhonyas is almost always a necessity early (espcially against gap closers like diana or katarina)

After lich bane, I only use my ult to initiate. If Fizz gets ahead early and get's some items finished, he's very hard to catch up to.

When playing against him, I use wukong. The clone can catch an ult if you time it right. Wukong's ult can knock fizz up but the sustained damage can be mitigated by playful/trickster. Between wukong's gap closer and fizz's escape, it makes for a pretty even fight.

Rinto10/17/2013, 8:14:05 PM1 votes

I have faced of against many Fizz-es both in the mid lane, and just in general on the enemy team. I have seen him go 0-6 and STILL carry a game by instagibbing a carry. I feel like with all the escape tools he receives he should be a little easier to reliably shut down.

Invictrix10/18/2013, 5:36:12 AM1 votes

He is overpowered, because he has very few counters in the mid lane. Annie is one of the few exceptions.