Can you place put all of your changes in patch notes instead of stealth fixing lots of things?

Fisherman Fizz·1/25/2015, 11:14:53 PM·47 votes·9,058 views

Hi, I haven't really played this game that much recently, but I tried playing Fizz some on PBE because there are some new changes there. However, there are other changes too on there that aren't mentioned anywhere and that have never been mentioned in any patch notes since I started taking my break from playing. The two changes I see now are:

  1. W lasts 5 seconds. For years it has lasted only 4 seconds even though reading the ability description said 5. I had tested that several, several times and it was one of the first things I tested for on PBE.
  2. You can dash/blink out of Fizz's Q. That's a huge change that I don't see mentioned anywhere.

And it turns out that these aren't just PBE changes that nobody noticed. These changes are actually on Live right now and not a word has been said about either of them. The 2nd change in particular is huge and totally changes how you can play against him, yet it got stealth changed into the game so nobody knows about it to take advantage of it. This isn't the only time this kind of thing has happened even just with Fizz. A few months back, his E was changed where if you use Zhonya's during it, it saves his spot in the animation instead of finishing it and doing damage during the Zhonya's stasis, but absolutely 0 mention of that in any patch notes.

I'm not complaining about any of these changes. Most of them are actually good changes that should have been made, but why is it so hard to put big things like this in patch notes? This happens for tons of other champions too, and it's really annoying learning that something changed and not being told about it until it screws you over in game.

34 Comments

Demonsolder211/26/2015, 1:15:46 AM17 votes

Another change is stealth wards. Which isnt mentioned anywhere.

RiotMeddler1/26/2015, 8:27:04 PM14 votes

Yeah, our bad there, that Fizz Q change should have either been patch noted or not gone out. In this case someone was fixing a different, minor Sheen related bug with Fizz's Q and incorporated this change into that work, without realizing that then made this a good thing to note down.

GigglingAngel1/25/2015, 11:37:17 PM10 votes

I have to agree. Every single detail makes a difference.

Pika3101/26/2015, 11:01:58 PM5 votes

I'd like to note, all 17 of Sona's nerfs in patch 4.13 were intentionally left out of news and updates, especially patch notes.


Then there were her 2 secret Q range nerfs: -50 in 4.13 and -100 in 4.16

Kürama1/26/2015, 10:07:02 PM2 votes

Dash out of Fizz's Q? ...

You know, when I start liking the OP champs is when Riot nerfs them.

Sigh.

Meep Man1/26/2015, 7:31:57 PM1 votes

I think the 2nd one is an unintentional change with the crowd control changes in patch 5.1. If it isn't in the patch notes, it will 99.999999% of the time be unintentional.

Also, Im pretty certain Fizz's W has lasted for 5 seconds for a while now.

Rockoutwithmy1/27/2015, 3:11:18 AM1 votes

No one minds when Shaco gets stealth nerfed without a single word on it (Looking at Devourer / FF not proccing on clone attacks).

Riots just really bad at what they do, expect this type of stuff.

Haunt1/27/2015, 2:39:19 PM1 votes

I just love how many times Riot has to come into treads like this and basically say, "oops, didn't mean to do that lol."

You'd think stuff like that would stop happening. Like I know everyone makes mistakes, but it happens so often. Every patch breaks something.

Elphrihaim1/26/2015, 12:28:20 AM1 votes

The first one (5 second Seastone Trident) has been true for a while.

Like the last time I played Fizz it was that way. I haven't played Fizz in quite a long while though :V

RoyaiChaos1/26/2015, 1:13:21 AM1 votes

Sometimes they just forget, or they might be bugs.

O o b l e c k1/26/2015, 1:05:13 PM1 votes

summoner 13 amarite?

Junkο1/26/2015, 7:27:31 PM1 votes

It's prob just a problem with the code being shit. Anybody old enough to remember not getting smite damage shown on the spell because it reduced Flash's CD?