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Quality of life change: Tryndamere's ultimate automatically activates on taking lethal damage.

Critkeeper··3 votes·1,437 views

He's expected to do that anyway, and is balanced according to the notion that he will always execute his ultimate perfectly. Whatever happened to "fight the enemy, not the game".

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Dorkdav2 votes

I disagree. I think that's part of playing Tryndamere. Also there could be times when you don't want to ult even if you would die.

Critkeeper2 votes

I'd accept making it non voluntary if I could make 100% reliable.

Tryndamere's ultimate has a 0.5 second delay to activate after pressing the button. RIOT did this to diminish the discrepancy beteween players with high ping and low ping who play Tryndamere in the same patch that they reduced it by 1 second and made it so that you could cast it through any sort of cc.

I'd just make it automatic to fix the discrepency between players with differing pings and remove the expectation from the Tryndamere player that he need to anticipate 0.5 seconds into the future what will happen to his health meter.

It isn't a fair expectation given that he is balanced according to the notion that the player will execute the ultimate perfectly every time even though often even the most skilled Tryndamere players fail to predict the future correctly 100% of the time. I don't think that should be a condition in the game.

Dorkdav2 votes

Is Tyn balanced around using his ult perfectly? I think he's balance around his sustain in lane and relative safety that spin and his ult gives him while pushing. Of course late game his ult indeed gives him a huge amount of power.

That aside, I would be worried that it would make him feel brain dead. Sure it feels bad to miss or misuse his ult. But it also feels good when you use it well. Will it still feel like an ultimate if it happens automatically? Will it just be a second passive with a cool down? Those are some concerns I have about making it automatic.

Hayaishi2 votes

So now Tryndamere can't even die by misplaying? no thanks he's already cancerous enough.

Angry Monster2 votes

congrats that is where is the skill of paying attention comes into play.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

In general I disagree, because there are times that you would rather die than blow your ult. Perhaps this could be a setting that you can toggle on?

Critkeeper1 votes

That would be perfectly acceptable also.

Rubitonabuilding1 votes

In general I disagree, because there are times that you would rather die than blow your ult. Perhaps this could be a setting that you can toggle on?

but then, what the heck is the point of having it auto-proc on fatal damage?

Hyrum Graff1 votes

Trynd's ult is balanced around you popping it just before you die - if you ult when you're full HP, it doesn't do much for you (obviously nobody who's smart ults at full hp, but the effect is still there at 1/2, or 1/4, etc - the more hp you have when you ult, the less effective it is).

"Toggle On" would be like "I know I'm going to want to ult this fight, let me turn my ult on." Then, that fight, when you would take fatal damage, your ult auto-activates.

Rubitonabuilding1 votes

I think it should be an either-or thing. If somebody can't time their already OP ult properly, it's not on Riot to give them a zero-risk choice to make it even more broken. So either auto-proc on fatal damage, or don't. No toggle.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

It's a balancing thing, to make tryndamere's power level more consistent across different levels of play.

Making it auto-proc on fatal damage is undoubtedly a buff - you get longer out of it, and if you're running, you won't blow your ult unless it's needed. However, it also makes the ability more consistent (in this case, consistently stronger).

This means that they can nerf the duration slightly (6 secs -> 5.5 or 5 secs, something like that), without trynd losing any power.

The toggle exists so that, in situations where trynd would rather die than blow his ult, he can (simply changing it to auto-proc on fatal damage is both a nerf to the ability, and a terrible change - that's like, if blitz's mana barrer were his ult).

Manchette1 votes

I believe that it would be wise to give his ult a toggle-able affect. That way you can choose to die if you want to.

Rubitonabuilding1 votes

lmfao. trynd already broken. if you can't time your ult, then too bad.

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