Remove every single champion's passives.

Desiderium·Sep 22, 2013·1 votes·292 views

Talon's passive is removed. E is change to only a silence and gapcloser.

New passive: Whenever Talon E's to a target, damage is increased by a percentage.

Remove Tryndamere's passive. Trynda no longer gains max fury from his ult.

New passive: Whenever Tryndamere ults, he gets max fury.

Remove Kha'Zix passive. Kha's ult no longer gives him a speed boost.

New passive: Whenever Kha ults, he gets a speed boost.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

Why is Jayce's passive DIRECTLY TIED to his ult?

An ability that is supposed to be passive, that only works when another ability is used is NOT A PASSIVE. It feels like it's supposed to be on his ult already, but was for some reason taken out and replaced his passive, which did not need to happen.

Remove stealth from Talon's ult. Remove Talon's passive. Talon's new passive: Whenever Talon ults, he gets stealth.

What is the logic behind this? And when can Jayce have an actual passive?

Xyph I hope you're thinking about this...(Also bring his Gate cooldown back down in later levels please :D)

9 Comments

JackAquaSep 22, 20131 votes

But passives that work on their own AND work together with skills are still OK, right ?

DesideriumSep 22, 20131 votes

I'm discussing how Jayce's passive makes absolutely no sense.

JackAquaSep 22, 20131 votes

He has such a passive since he ( unlike let's say Nidalee ) has his "R" at lvl 1.
Kinda hard to explain, but Nida get's an own passive, because she get's her Ult at lvl 6 and Jayce and Elise don't, because they have it at lvl 1. Just look at it this way. Jayce Ultimate is "Jayce gains 3 extra spells" And Jayce passive is "When Jayce casts a spell he always has and can always perform he gains certain buffs" like with Namis passive :D
Hope that helps ... in a way

AtlanisSep 22, 20131 votes

Giving Jayce a real passive would be impossible: he lacks nothing. Wait, maybe we could give him an invincibility passive! He doesn't have that!

Tasty ConfectionSep 22, 20131 votes

Why is Jayce's passive DIRECTLY TIED to his ult?

Because he doesn't need the power that would come from a real passive like the champions you mentioned. He's already a strong pick -- why are you complaining about giving him more power?

An ability that is supposed to be passive, that only works when another ability is used is NOT A PASSIVE.

Gragas and Riven say your argument is poorly worded.

DesideriumSep 22, 20131 votes

Riven's passive works because it's on every one of her abilities. It is a true passive unlike Jayce's.

WeirdingSep 22, 20131 votes

What about Karma? Her passive is tied directly to her ultimate and -- like Jayce -- she gets her ultimate at level 1!

Jayce's passive and ultimate ability are tied because that is how the champion was designed. He's not supposed to just stay in one stance, he's supposed to switch back and forth as necessary; his passive rewards him for doing so.

DesideriumSep 23, 20131 votes

A passive connecting to only one ability of a kit isn't a reward for using it. It's just a piece ripped off of that ability and shoved into a passive for no good reason.

WeirdingSep 23, 20131 votes

Alright, let's get something clear here:

Jayce is a champion with 2 modes and the ability to quickly and fluidly move into and out of melee and ranged combat. He is a massive lane bully ON ACCOUNT OF his passive, that allows him to poke from range and suddenly charge into melee to deal out massive damage, then disengage with haste ON ACCOUNT OF his passive.

Not every champion is going to have a passive that completely defines their play. In Jayce's case, it's his ultimate ability and dual kit of abilities that define him.