couple words from me about the feral flare jjunglers

Knight SoIaire ·Jul 25, 2014·3 votes·534 views

basicaly couple of problem that i think master yi and udyr overstepped
master yi can dodge or rather destroy projectiles with his q and he is not reliant on it (offensively), his damage is high like any autoatacker so he saves his q for dodges (which is kinda decimating for most of the squishies cause they usualy rely on some projectile cc to actualy survive) als o his ult ms, master yi builds adc items which provide loads of ms which leads to him being uncatchable in any chase also almoust impossible to escape from

and udyr, he is fine for most of the time, but his insane numbers, he has them because he has "low mobility", rito pls you made everything able to jump so udyr seems not mobile but he is almoust like yi, and you have to kite him for hours to kill him, while he runs twice as fast as you (do only i see a problem here) he is not spiking in winrate cause ppl fail to play him (either they dont gank and their team gets bbehind too much, or they fail ganks and wont even stack the flare)

i get that its a qq thread but i find feral junglers (guess what only 2 exists) having and edge over anything else in this game

8 Comments

Serpents EmbraceJul 25, 20142 votes

This would have been timely and relevant a few months ago.

Right now it's kind of pointless, though? FF was nerfed and is kind of the worst jungle item choice again. :\

High Lord BlazeJul 25, 20141 votes

Honestly, I found this kind of hard to read. Yi is not OP first of all (no, I don't play him...) He has no CC, so ganking becomes relatively hard for him (Yi ganks are bad), his sustain is non-existent after a few levels if he doesn't max it (which he shouldn't.) Udyr is not OP. He doesn't have a dash and has a few popular counters (and jumping over walls also helps...). If you want to heal as Udyr and you go Phoenix, his clear speed suddenly drops like hell. If you go Tiger, your early clear speeds are still pretty bleh.

Knight SoIaire Jul 25, 20141 votes

yi has the highest base ms in game and usualy takes 3% from mastereis + red= actualy good ganks (i play him sometimes) also i dont speak that they are op but that they owerstep their innate weaknesses (yi should be weak to cc but he can dodge it quite easily so he is not so weak to cc after all) his sustain? listesteal from runes does the job just fine

udyr also is not op, but its not because he is not mobile cause he is mobile just like yi is, but because riot started creating champs that counter him (jumpers) he has insane numbers, he can theoreticaly be branded as not mobile champ cause we are dealing with mobility creep atm, pick anything not mobile enough to escape udyr and there is literaly 0% chances of beating him or at least escaping the only counterplay to udyr is to JUMP AWAY and not every champ is able to (play tf ,pant, darius etc, you are free food if you cant jump)

udyr seems weak in the meta which usualy fawours mobility but he literaly takes all of the less mobile champs off the screen

you can disagree me but is see yi's just destroying or dodging any cc you trhow at them and udyrs eating anything that cant jump

those 2 champs are quite original in their design and for some reason they sclae good with feral flare you can disagre with me but i dont say that htye are op, just pointing a few weird facts

FlamecowzJul 25, 20141 votes

See the thing is, Yi doesn't need cc because you can't escape from him anyway. And his Q makes it so you can't hurt him at all.

Linna ExcelJul 25, 20141 votes

FF is kind of weak right now overall. It's not the item that's a problem. Also Yi sucks in higher rankings once adcs learn to get red buff and people start taking CC.

Knight SoIaire Jul 26, 20141 votes

i never told that there is something wrong with the item, just with like 2 champs that use it exsclusively (others take it too but nobody is as good with ff as yi and udyr)

Linna ExcelJul 26, 20141 votes

Then my first inclination is to say that is a problem with those champs and not the item.

Also Udyr's 345 move speed puts him in the faster half of the champions out there.

Knight SoIaire Jul 26, 20141 votes

well as title suggests its about the champions and not about the item theoreticaly they pay with something for something but in practice they have ability to overcome their weaknesses )prolly will be some typos here cause im drunk atm and ill be sleeping in like 10 min(