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Ashe's passive

Linna Excel··3 votes·648 views

I have a thought for improving Ashe's passive: every X auto attacks, you critically hit. IMO I think that'd reward her for actively trading and attacking more so than the current passive.

Is it a bit like Yi's? Yes, but I don't think it'd be broken if X were the right number. Maybe it'd get lower as she levels.

10 Comments

HazeyInDaHead2 votes

Its great and all.

It sounds a lot like headshot, but better in late game to land a 1k crit.

I like it.

ILoveTiramisu1 votes

I think Ashe need a passive like +10% critical chance.

ShadowNinetails1 votes

Kind of stepping on Caitlyn 's toes more than Yi's unless it's X consecutive attacks. TBH, I think Ashe's current passive really works for her as a character because it incentivises holding back until the right moment to attack, a central theme of the Avarosan and, to a similar extent, the Frostguard as referenced in Lissandra 's passive.

Now using Liss as a reference does give us a good idea for improving Focus: Bonus stacks whenever you impair a champion's movement with an ability. Currently, Ashe is the only Freljord leader whose passive isn't augmented by abilities: Liss's passive CD is reduced by 1 second whenever she impairs a champ's movement and Sejuani's passive activates on spells as well as autos to grant bonus Armor and decrease incoming slows. I do wonder, however, if a change like this would run counter to what made it fit her character in the first place (Volleys, Volleys everywhere).

Remlap12231 votes

Ashe's passive is garbage. Ashe's kit in general isn't very good, at least for my play style, but oh my gawd that is the worst passive in the game. Your first autoattack you critically strike, and then... nothing. It doesn't help at later levels either. In my opinion, she needs to have her Q as her passive, where she slows her target down if she critically hits. Make her W her new Q, and then give her an actual defensive ability like every other ADC has.

Linna Excel1 votes

Building crit helps because it resets the base it starts from, but yeah, it's not helpful. My biggest problem is it is kind of against what an ADC needs to be doing and that's keep attacking. If you do your job correctly, your passive isn't going to be working.

And I like Ashe's kit, it not a traditional ADC kit so that makes it a bit weirder than others.

ReyKingRex1 votes

YES! This is actually a great idea. She sucks so much right now, she needs a rework like this. Even though she has a "perma-slow", she's still immobile, and the next immobile ADC, Jinx, has more CC.

Linna Excel1 votes

Shadownintails, I see where you are coming from but unfortunately she's an ADC so that kind of theme is a bit of liability on her, particularly since she doesn't have any sort of escapes for a hit and run style champ.

Yes you do want your ADC to hold back a little when a teamfight starts so everyone else has used their burst. But this just gives her one good shot and that's that for it. It's not like she has the built in speed and mobility to jump in and use it either.

Chances are if you are playing ADC right, you hang back and use it up on the tank who initiated.

Penguin Eclipse1 votes

That would be a lot better than what she has now. You could take it a step further and have other ways of reaching X. For example, every arrow that hits from Volley could count as an auto attack toward X to help give her some room for more plays and differentiate her from other passives.

I think they should investigate switching her passives. Move some form of her current passive or rework of it to her E (make it scale by the level of her E) and take her E passive and make it into her main passive. Of course it would have to be made more intricate than simply having flat 3 gold. But it seems more logical than how they have her current two passives setup. If she had the passive you suggested on her E, the number needed to reach X could be lowered by each level of E.

Linna Excel1 votes

Yeah, her E is, well I can see why it exists, it's just not something you'd expect on an ADC. In the past I kind of wished that the gold passive was in her passive and leveling this gave you some passive crit change when you leveled it. But I can live with it because a good ADC just needs to be auto attacking primarily.

My issue's with Ashe's kit and her passive specifically is against an ADC's gameplay style.

Now if auto attacking didn't cause the current passive to stop building stacks, that'd be great. But it does which is an issue.

XyonFox1 votes

The problem of Ahse's passive is that to charge it you don't have to auto-atack.

All ADC are 75% of the time AUTO-ATACKING.

Riot should change that.

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