Doran's stacking , Yay or Nay?

Knight Devout·May 29, 2014·1 votes·662 views

So, after seeing Rengar vs Vasili , I happened to have a game where I was feeding horribly as Twitch+Nidalee botlane against Twitch+Thresh. I thought I might as well try the same thing and see what happened. The result was a 1v1 victory against a 4/0/1 Twitch with Zerker's, cutlass and 1 dagger, while I had Boots+4 doran blade.

I know, when you stack more than 3 doran's you really lose a lot of gold for your lategame dominance, but it basically means that, no matter how horribly you were beaten, you can make a comeback.

I opened a thread in EuW to discuss the same thing and people had mixed feelings. http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1743277

I guess the most common concern was about the situation where a lane bullies uses Doran's stacking (wether rings or blades) to consolidate his early advantage against a lategame champion. Things like Double Doran Renekton.

It's not a easy matter, as Doran's stacking has some pro in terms of strategy as it does allows for comebacks at the cost of postponing your build.

However, what's your view on the matter?

9 Comments

KingSmizzyMay 29, 20142 votes

every dorans you buy is 440 less gold to your final build, it fills up your inventory making it impossible to buy pieces to new items and really isnt worth much after 10 minutes.

item 1038 1 item slot - 45 ad - 1550g

3x item 1075 3 item slots - 240 hp - 24 ad - 1320g

at that point a pickaxe and a ruby crystal would get you the same thing and they'd actually upgrade into something. plus with boots and 4 dorans that only leaves you with 1 item slot, if you pick up a bf or a vamp scepter you'd have to sell something to make room or save up ridiculous amounts of gold to make another purchase.

dorans doesnt keep you in the lane longer, if youre hurting for gold then go vampscepter -> cutlass its a cheaper route than buying a bf for bt and youll actually be making meaningful purchases

Knight DevoutMay 29, 20141 votes

You didn't mention the 15 /9 health on hit, that for some champion is actually more effective than lifesteal. For example, Twitch will heal of the full amount for each champion pierced by bolts during ultimate. 3 dorans on twitch , in terms of lifesteal, are really effective because even if the damage drops, and lifesteal with it, the on-hit heal is always the same.

And people at all ELO are stacking at least 2 early doran's blade if not 3.

KingSmizzyMay 29, 20141 votes

It is a valid point but the thing i was trying to show was that stacking dorans instead of buying another ad item can be costly and your skills wont scale off of dorans dmg. with 1 bf you'd have an additional 45 dmg to every attack, 20dmg more than if you had 3 dorans.

Dorans might give you survivability but adc isnt about tanking or lifesteal, its about glass cannon dmg

2dsystemMay 29, 20142 votes

but if he's behind, I don't see whats wrong with a little bit of survivability. in a straight up 1v1 against someone who is farther ahead, thay're going to deal more damage than you, that's a fact, and theres no getting around it by building damage yourself. I'm not sure that a 4th dorans blade is a good thing, but if youre really far behind, i can see the value in 3, because if you can duel them, and actually kill them, then thats up to 500g back, depending on the circumstances, which is 1 dorans paying for itself, and then a bit of extra pocket cchange

bzhen0915May 29, 20141 votes

If I'm behind, I start stacking dorans items (this is more so in dorans rings, I usually never get more than 2 dorans blades)

WorgslargMay 29, 20141 votes

IMO, it is simply a troll build. Someone making what is in my mind a bullshit build, regardless of who they are/ what they know is simply troll.

Knight DevoutJun 1, 20141 votes

the problem is that the troll build is effective. Even if you are 4/0 with an almost closed botrk, it's hard to win a duel against someone with more health, AD, and lifesteal .