Sivir - She's actually really fun, but lacking!

GhostStalker·Nov 1, 2013·9 votes·997 views

I feel as though Sivir is really lacking when it comes to how she builds. She's different from other ADC's in the respects that she really likes CDR, so she can get as many ricochets off as possible, and just spamming her abilities in general as a huge chunk of her DPS comes from it. But the problem I Have with her is that Critical Hit doesn't do a whole lot for her since she's more ability based than most ADC's, and then also has the shortest range of all the ADC's shared by kog'maw (though he can extend his range by a great amount).

Sivir's W bounces should be subject to critical strikes in the same way that Master Yi's Alpha Strike is.
if this is too strong of a wave-clear, have it only affects champions and not minions
I think that by allowing an ADC like sivir who is extremely ability based to utilize crit with her W, it would make her feel a lot better, because crit feels like a wasted stat on her since she has to get so close to utilize it, and her abilities which is a huge part of her damage don't benefit from it at all.
If Sivir's range has to stay at 500, why not give her Spell Shield some sort of staying power mechanism? The mana return is nice and all, but I think that I'd rather have a secondary effect on her Spell Shield that gives me a boost in my defenses, especially since it costs 0 mana now. Something like:
Spell Shield: Sivir creates a magical barrier that lasts up to 3 seconds, blocking the next enemy ability used on Sivir. If an ability is blocked by the shield, Sivir gains armor and magic resistance for 5 seconds.

Since she has to function so close to the battlefield, I think giving her staying power would be best.

14 Comments

moogle890Nov 1, 20133 votes

I really like these changes and it would definitely help Sivir out a lot.

GhostStalkerNov 1, 20131 votes

Thanks! I think so as well, I wonder if the Reds know the community beta exists lol, I never seen them post here.

moogle890Nov 2, 20131 votes

I've seen a few. There is the Red Tracker button, so that would imply they do come here eventually. I think that Reds do read threads like these, but they don't always comment on them. More or less they see the idea, write it down, and then probably go discuss it with other Rioters.

YiseryNov 2, 20131 votes

Most of the red posts in here are from the community devs though, not game devs.

FilthySaintNov 1, 20132 votes

There are literally dozens ideas on what to do with Sivir.
This is also one of many good ideas.
Unfortunately, Riot doesn't seem to want to listen to any of them.

GhostStalkerNov 1, 20132 votes

Thanks for replying! I was afraid these new beta forums were dead.

I don't know why they appear to be ignoring us :\ We're the ones stuck playing their champions, so they should be paying attention.

Having 500 range is absolutely brutal, especially if her strength's aren't strong enough, which they're not. I could settle for Sivir having 550-575 range with her current state unchanged sans the range, but as of right now 500 range is absolute trash on her.

Critical hit doesn't really matter, which is really bad for her.

Nevar13Nov 1, 20132 votes

It sucks. Sivir is probally the least played adc due to her range. You sir are a genius. this may just be a few little changes but these could really improve sivir alot. now go eat a cookie.

GhostStalkerNov 1, 20131 votes

Thanks! I'm eating Chips Ahoy Reeses cookies actually!

But seriously, I just don't think the stats Sivir gets is applicable enough to her W.

odessaNov 1, 20132 votes

Riot has stated that because Sivir's wave clear is so good, they do not want to buff her range. That's kind of ridiculous in my opinion. Many of the other ADCs can wave clear just as well as Sivir, but at lower costs and safer distances. Now, I don't want Sivir to be like every other ADC, but 500 range is ridiculous. Especially when every other champion has a 500+ range gap closer and/or cc.

I do like her feel during laning phase, but when it comes time to team fight, she feels too awkward. It feels like I should be split pushing instead, which certainly has a time and place, but come on. An ADC centered around split pushing and wave clearing? That's kind of boring.

Anyway, good suggestions. I particularly like the spell shield idea, and I'm certainly for her W doing something more than just ricocheting for 3 attacks with laughable damage.

GhostStalkerNov 1, 20131 votes

At this point I don't think i care about them buffing her range, Riot's been super stubborn about it, and it's useless to get them to do anything about that particular situation.

However they certainly can buff W the ways it needs to be. Right now corki is a better pick than Sivir because he has more single target AND AoE damage than sivir.

JełlyfishNov 2, 20131 votes

They should change that splash art...That bucktooth makes her look weird.

NicarasuNov 3, 20131 votes

That would be a great idea.

Mister BurkesNov 8, 20131 votes

item 2049 +1 on these changes.

ZoramNov 13, 20131 votes

Yeah I like the crit thing. Maybe with the spell shield have it lower its own cooldown or all her cooldowns even. I think though just making it refund on itself would be really fun to chain up sheilds if you time them well to shut down mages bombarding you from afar.