I mean if you aren't nerfing them then nothing is going to be done, the new changes will have been for nothing. Why are you guys at Riot trying so desperately hard not to nerf Lee Sin and Friends? If this is not favoritism, I don't know what is.
they're making season 1 jungle look easy now. less exp than s1. More damage than s1. :^)
I mean if you aren't nerfing them then nothing is going to be done, the new changes will have been for nothing. Why are you guys at Riot trying so desperately hard not to nerf Lee Sin and Friends? If this is not favoritism, I don't know what is.
They are trying to make it hard for Lee Sin, Kha, Elise..etc have a hard time clearing. The problem though is that the items gives him extreme easy time to clear past level 6ish. So this new jungle, it's only to help laners because those non-ganking junglers just wont get out of the jungler regardless
So if you see someone taking something like NAut, you can easily expect no ganks because they can't gank and clear. Lee on the other hand will still be able to gank those level just not go back to the jungle without pots. They did absolutely nothing except for a few rare picks like Udyr
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From what I can tell Early Aggro (pre six) has been for the most part gutted. I mean I haven't played PBE so I can't say anything about invasions, but the normal "Clear until 4 then gank" seems like it's gone. From videos I've watched, if smite is used well about everyone clears just normally after the first lvl 3 recall and reach level 6 at around six minutes in. Does this solve the problem of Lee or Khazix dominating games? No not at all but that's a different problem not related to the jungle. What I would personally like to see is actual early game items that help tanks because to really get tanky ish you need quite a bit of gold which nullifies some of the gold efficiency of high CC tanks.
the point is the jungle changes is to bring diversity into the jungle not completely smash the early ganking junglers they still want early aggro junglers to be viable they just want to make other options of jungling viable too
so now that i pointed this out you probably realise you over reacted and feel very foolish
There will always be a best of something. Lee is strong at counterjungling yes, but another (i.e. Nunu) will simply take his place if Riot nerfs him. If you play a slow jungler like Sej, you'll always be behind till mid/late game.
They aren't trying to nerf Lee Sin, they are trying to make other junglers as good as Lee Sin.
Amumu and Fiddlesticks are better than lee sin
