My opinion on how to give Fiora purpose ^^

I agree with your last point, I just don't agree that new Karma is stronger or has brought any excitement to the character.

I will bite... I just hope I can help you understand some of the reasons she needed to change. It wasn't that she was inherently toxic, she had her unique niche... emphasis on unique. So unique it was downright awkward for both her opponents and her allies. Her abilities were difficult to read and even more difficult to react to. Mantra was originally designed with the idea of using charges to make important plays at key moments in a fight, instead they were just spammed together which defeated the point of her design. Her ability to heal her allies while dealing damage to her enemies was incredibly satisfying, so satisfying that you just used mantra charges just to do that and rarely on her other abilities. The way she healed was the other big problem, it was unique in that it did a base heal in addition to a percent of an allies missing health which made it extremely powerful... Too powerful. That is why it didn't make it into her reworked kit.

Now this is where you need to really think and open your perspective. While it seems like She lost the ability to potentially heal her entire team... she didn't. Were they able to transfer it over perfectly into her new kit, no. Her team heal was instead changed into a team shield capable of dealing damage and speeding your allies up. I realize that a shield is not the same as a heal, but since the heal wasnt coming back, I'd say a mass shield that also speeds everyone up is a pretty damn awesome tradeoff.

I cant reply to your other comment cause of seeding so Im replying to this one.

If it seemed like i was being condescending I apologize but you calling me a dick is uncalled for.

She was changed for more reasons than just her W. It was unsatisfying to have to level a skill 6 times just to reach the same power level as all other champ abilities in the game. Her heals from using mantra thanks to Q's short cooldown were to close together to be healthy. Trying to compare this to soraka is moot since her heals are on extremely high cooldowns. The other reason they didn't like the way a mantra Q worked was because it did a strong heal on top of strong damage all at once to not one but any ally or enemy caught in the cone. They recognized the fact that the removal of her heal was unfortunate and lowered her shield cooldown a bunch to compensate for that. Which means it is possible to mass shield your team multiple times during a fight. I used to love playing Karma myself and would include myself as a part of her old fan base. I argued that removing the ability to heal her teammates was gutting her. I tried her out after the rework and wasnt happy about it and how she turned out. I then picked her up again later on, read over many of the discussions again and started to understand better why they made the changes they did. I'm sorry you dont see it or feel the same way.

Trying to call out the design teams telling them that they did a terrible job doesnt make you sound all that great either. I am suprised you even got a response to begin with considering you are not even willing to post with your main account.

seeding issues again.

This last reply was much nicer to read. TBH I was tired and getting things mixed up a bit last night. I wish it were easy to find the Karma threads when she was first re-released and look them through again. I do remember that they had mentioned that mantra Q was to attractive for what it did and outweighed the other spells. I am pretty sure but not positive that the other reason was teammates would accost Karma players if she didnt use both mantra for heals. Thinking about it further now also reminds me that there was mention that balancing that kind of ability was a nightmare. Since they were adding additional damage sources to her kit, the budget no longer allowed Q and its mantra version to have that much power. They would have had to gutted either its damage or the heal to a point where it could never feel satisfying which is what prompted the move away from it. I cant be 100% sure on this but it sounds extremely familiar and my memory is pretty good about this kind of thing.

It wasnt just her heal that prompted the rework it was everything: spirit link, spells with 6 ranks, confusing play style, and an overall negative perception of Karma as a champ (kind of like how pick eve before she got retuned was trolling). In the right hands Karma was amazing, no doubt, but she just didnt fit in well with the game the way she was.

I do want to touch on another point you made about her current abilities. Her kit is one of the most cohesive in the game. All of her abilities flow so well into each other that it is scary. You mentioned how you can simply walk out of the aoe effect from empowered Q. That is where Focused Resolve comes in. You begin your engage with linking up with focused resolve, that typically prompts your opponent to try and break it. You quickly follow that up with Inspire making sure they cant get away so easily, then right before they get rooted you send out a empowered Q on them. It hits, they get rooted in the AoE and by the time they break free only a flash will save them. If focused resolve is rank 5 even that doesn't work anymore. As for Defiance, empowered e, I dont really know of a time in the game where a boost of speed, shield, and extra damage wouldn't be welcome in a fight. It might feel a little overloaded, but not in a bad way.

the combo is actually WERQ, putting RQ at the start would allow their escape:P
that is more for solo lanes anyways, and by no means is it the only way to use RQ. In fact as you become more familiar with Karma and know the exact range and point an RQ pops you can use it and place it in front of your enemy as they try an escape you. The only way for them to escape the secondary damage is to walk back toward you which makes them easy prey. When you start to siege as a team further into the game you use RQ all the time. It deals awesome damage, lays down an area for zoning, and quite often does catch an unsuspecting victim.

Using inspire doesn't always utilize every element of the ability, you are right in saying that, but that is what makes inspire such a great spell. It has so many applications! I rarely even think about the fact that it deals damage when I use it, so when I do and just happen to snag a kill and save an ally, BOOYAH! This is actually another point about the old Karma that they made mention to as well. It was the fact that Using mantra'd E was saved for yourself and not often used on others. When it was and ended up getting a killing blow you would get accused of kill stealing when all you were trying to do was help.

Like I keep saying it wasn't just one thing that prompted her rework and change, it was a bunch of things. Was what they came up with perfect? probably not, but what is? No one likes change to something they enjoy and typically fight tooth and nail against it. Sometimes though there is little you can do about it. I don't think a single one of the reworks has truly been met with open arms by the entire community and I doubt that will ever happen. What needs to be kept in mind though is that They are not just doing reworks for shits and giggles but are undertaking them for the betterment of the game as a whole.