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Riot clarification on curse chat

Angry Monster··4 votes·622 views

Directly from the curse chat web page.

Keep track of champion ultimate cooldowns and know when they're ready.

Automatically track the respawn of Baron and Dragon when you have vision.

This seems like cheating to me. This is mining the game for extra information to give players an edge.

Please post why this is being allowed

16 Comments

Kyleman1432 votes

Thats not cheating at all people can do that on their own if they wanted to without needing someone to make the timers for them

MackleDoge3 votes

Whether or not people keep track of timers for ultimates, objectives, or summoner spells is a personal choice and requires game knowledge and the actual dedication to do so. Having an application do it for you is cheating, simple.

Kyleman1432 votes

Its not cheating its called working smarter not harder there is nothing that says keeping timers of everything is cheating

Angry Monster2 votes

sigh the words of a bronze player.

Riot has in the past gone after accounts that use 3rd party software that offer an edge. (example lol trainer). Considering this program is being offered by a CURSE, the organization that has a Pro League team, there needs to be an official stance.

Riot states that they want e sports to be a real thing. Considering most of the up and comers to professional league play off the home PCs til a LAN event makes this the equivalent of cheating.

Either this is just a game or its a competitive sport. Since riot went and got congress to to adopt this as a sport medium. Certain standards should be taken into account.

Kyleman1431 votes

Alright so do if you consider using an application to keep timers cheating then do you consider using sites like lolking and lolnexus to look at players preformances and seeing their ranks cheating? as well as the new razor comms which also allows to see more starts than that?

AbiwonKenabi1 votes

Seeing someone's rank isn't info that will be useful in game; knowing a person is diamond isn't going to make you play any different than knowing a person is bronze. (Other than maybe head games, nerves, cockiness, etc, but at that point it's hurting rather than helping. Which is why Riot, I think, hides this information in the load screen.)

Kyleman1431 votes

Yeah but razor comms and using lolnexus allows you too see the rune pages and masteries they are using as well

MackleDoge1 votes

If you actually know about the runes and masteries outside of just what to use on your character, but also on other characters and different situations, you can look at the champions stat block by selecting them when you first see them and determine what runes and masteries they are using. Also, that confers you no in game bonus because you cannot alter what you select for your runes and masteries at that point. It's the same as if you just selected them when you first saw them to determine how to play the lane and trade against them.

MackleDoge2 votes

Keeping timers of things isn't cheating. Using a third party application to do it for you instead of doing the work yourself is cheating.

Kyleman1432 votes

So youre saying if i went and made myself and application just like theirs to keep all the timers it would be perfectly fine but by using one someone made for me i would be cheating?

MackleDoge3 votes

I'm saying if you went and developed an application that runs separately outside of League that you Alt+TAB out of to use to keep track of it, that is fine. It's the same as if you used a watch or an alarm on your phone. What is not okay is using a third party application that enacts coding inside of the League of Legends game to display timers inside the League of Legends HUD and interface that you can simply hit hotkey and it auto times and posts a notification for you. That is cheating. Unequivocally and completely cheating.

Angry Monster3 votes

The program is telling you what the CDR of ults are when you shouldn't know the cool down of champs. In theory runes and masteries can give u over 15% cdr.

This is a unfair advantage. Part of the skill of the game is doing the math yourself

sharpshooter5762 votes

Third party device/application =cheating if you want it done do it your self don't download things simple.

Only Play Nid1 votes

Wait, what post?

AbiwonKenabi1 votes

Automatically tracking Baron and Dragon respawns with vision is one thing. That's at least something you could easily do on your own. But ultimate cooldowns? That is an unfair advantage. We'll see what Riot does about it, because I think something will be done (I hope)

PlatonicMistress2 votes

If I remember correctly, it only gives you a timer on YOUR TEAM'S ults, not the opponents.

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